Bears01 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Just now, Hurem said: I'm so happy for all you Americans after this past year that felt hopeless. What states are most likely to flip from red to blue? I'm guessing NC because it was pretty tight last election, but what about the rest? Only North Carolina but I wouldn't bank on it. Its gonna be a TIGHT race in every state Biden won by slim margins in 2020
Relampago. Posted August 6 Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, Kitty Kat said: Everything is going the WRONG way for them, ShaPLANTro flopped and now they have to go back to the drawing board again. Sad! 5
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. 1
Aston Martin Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Both conservatives and never-Trumpers have been having a shitty morning, it brings me great joy 2
Relampago. Posted August 6 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Oop Lettuce hope that white man's arrogance being their downfall is the theme of this entire election
wastedpotential Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. Give it up deelishis 1 12
Bears01 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. "For what it's worth republicans ecstatic about the pick". They were going to be "ecstatic" no matter who she picked, dawg. They were going to taint anyone she picked as a "radical left socialist" and were already blatantly prepared to divide the left if they chose Shapiro. What do you not get about republicans and how they operate by now? Oh, you're a non American cos playing as a conservative troll, that's what you don't get 4 2 1
Pop Art Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. 1 11
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: Both conservatives and never-Trumpers have been having a shitty morning, it brings me great joy They're actually having a blast because they think this is the mistake that will cost Kamala the election! Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... 3
on the line Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. Lol Tim Walz is not a progressive. If he was, Minnesotans never would have elected him twice. Enough of your Fox News talking points.
wastedpotential Posted August 6 Posted August 6 "Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick" no they aren't? They'd react this way no matter who the choice was, because arguing that every decision your rival makes is a giant mistake is what you do in electoral politics. Tim Walz was by far the most dangerous candidate for them in terms of the EC and there are several war-room strategy meetings happening right about now in the RNC 1 6
justin. Posted August 6 Posted August 6 The UFO needs to come back and pick up one of its members... 11
Rotunda Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: They're actually having a blast because they think this is the mistake that will cost Kamala the election! Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... Unlike you, we actually live around, work with, and interact with republicans . Your understanding of American politics is solely limited to online pundits. 9
Relampago. Posted August 6 Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. Imo I feel like the "Radical Left!" "Socialism!" attacks are losing their potency and FAST. When you break it down, Walz's "socialism" is as he says: One man's socialism is another man's taking care of their neighbor. It's nothing all that radical, it's stuff you would have generally thought we already had/should have, not the government seizing all private goods nn.
FameFatale Posted August 6 Posted August 6 All the comments under Kamala's announcement is so positive and encouraging. I'm so happy! 2
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, wastedpotential said: Tim Walz was by far the most dangerous candidate for them in terms of the EC and there are several war-room strategy meetings happening right about now in the RNC Wow... you are completely delusional. Maybe talking to people outside of this echo chamber will do you good! 1 2
modeblock Posted August 6 Posted August 6 YAS SHAPIRO OUTTT AND WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT WHEW sociopathic LOSER PAPA WALZ is. WINNERRRRR PAPA WALZ IS BRAT 7
Aden Posted August 6 Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. Nah, I think MAGA is coping hard. "Socialism" may have been an effective boogeyman of the past but society has changed so much. Kamala didn't bring a Brooklyn-based rose-emoji'd socialist, she brought on a Midwastern man with great rural and suburban appeal. Shapiro is a great politician but he resembled the caricature of old school Dems and would have been much better suited had this been 2012 or 2016. The Democratic party has arguably shifted left. Maybe not communist-socialist left, but left nonetheless. The more conservative cohort of the Dems will rally around Harris-Walz. 4
Newt Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I see folks highlighting aspects of Walz' record, and he appears to be progressive in his political ambitions. At the same time, I see folks indicating that prior to this point, they saw him as a moderate, not a progressive. What is driving this disconnect? Is this an example of progressives on the left playing purity politics and not claiming him because of a few specific incidents that don't necessarily represent his overall political inclinations (i.e. the article I just saw about building pipes on indigenous land). OR are people just excited and selectively highlighting the progressive aspects of his politics, when in actuality he's demonstrated that he's far more moderate than what people are currently presenting him as?
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