Invincibles Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Was this posted yet?   This comment, combined with his statement made earlier this year of comparing the pro-Palestine college protestors to the KKK⌠Shapiro is absolutely terrible. 2
Vermillion Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Just now, nadiamendell said: Yeah, it's becoming more and more clear that Shapiro would be an absolute disaster. If she still, after everything that has been revealed, chooses him for VP, my opinion on her decision-making abilities would drop dramatically. My opinion would drop immensely as well, but I'd really wanna see the internal data that led them to their decision, especially that they can pull off Michigan subsequently. Hate to be a broken record, but hello Pennsylvania, goodbye Michigan.  If the worry's money since he was the bundler's favorite ask harder *****.  I mean, my opinion's irrelevant, but her campaign that showed so much promise is over, imho, if she goes down this road. 3 2
NausAllien Posted August 2 Posted August 2 If Kamala picks Josh Shapiro and she wins, he'll be the presuntive presidential candidate in 2032. Â
Communion Posted August 2 Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: Yeah, it's becoming more and more clear that Shapiro would be an absolute disaster. If she still, after everything that has been revealed, chooses him for VP, my opinion on her decision-making abilities would drop dramatically. I was looking into her record as AG to refresh my mind and maybe see if she got a fair shake in 2020, especially since her 2020 supporters are now trying to use the new hype to relitigate claims (her time as DA and AG are really at best very questionable).  But when reading yesterday, so many articles from people who knew her during her career are dominated by the constant theme of ..she doesn't have any ideology. She has never liked to wade into issues that could see her get backlash.  And we knew as much. I remember saying she's not an ideologue and giggled when seeing an article from 2019 basically say that verbatim.  And we hoped that would be good! Surely there's gonna be some progressives in her circle and in the WH whispering in her ear like they did in 2020 to recognize where the actual currents are flowing! To embrace progressives unlike Biden, who fundamentally believed in his views against progressives. But it looks like we're getting closer and closer to a place where she is convinced to jump into a very harsh centrist and reactionary position despite not being the kind of politician able to articulate, justify or defend that world view.  I linked the Reason piece summarizing her history in criminal justice before but read it in full again last night for the first time since 2020 and the below made me scream??  Quote To defend her record, Harris likes to ask voters to separate her values from her actions. "I am liberal and progressive," she said after winning her first elected office in 2003. "But I was not running for the public defender, and I recognize there is a role for the public defender and a role for the D.A." The trouble is that she seems to want the credit for both. Prosecutor and victims' advocate. Leftist and centrist. All things to everyone, accountable to no one.  3 1
Rotunda Posted August 2 Posted August 2 22 minutes ago, Communion said: Ernest is a journalist but also a political pundit. He may be fueling rumors before an announcement to try and spark backlash to hopefully get the Harris campaign to reconsider. As a progressive I of course agree with him but basically do remember he was pushing for Kenyatta for the Senate race and then helped us and joined in on the Lamb bashing when it was clear it was either Fetterman or Lamb. I feel like he needs to clearly delineate between when he's speaking as a journalist and when he's speaking as a pundit then.
YellowRibbon Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Hold the line Waltz Warriors and Besheanators! Not everything is lost yet 2 2
Vermillion Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Regardless of which narrative is true, just leaving here for the news factor and I'm gonna keep it moving⌠  3 1
Ms. Togekiss Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, GhostBox said:  Inb4 they're trying to drive her into a corner and force her to choose Shapiro bc of these "leaks"  now I really hope she doesn't pick him so they look like clowns. No wonder Philly is so hated  1
Sannie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 5 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Regardless of which narrative is true, just leaving here for the news factor and I'm gonna keep it moving⌠  Cackling at the idea of staffers who work in politics being fearful of the ***. Â
Vermillion Posted August 2 Posted August 2 So for those who haven't kept track, we've got a  1) Murder cover-up and legal stalling for past friend/donor 2) Attempted sexual harassment cover-up and subsequent elevation of said Republican staffer 3) Crossed numerous picket lines 4) Leading voucher proponent 5) Volunteered for the IDF, wants us to believe he's changed his views from where they were which was that there was no chance of a two-state solution due to Palestinians "inherent nature"  And about 5 other factors I haven't gotten to   4
Blade Posted August 2 Posted August 2 meetings are taking place today and will definitely continue into tomorrow 1 1
Communion Posted August 2 Posted August 2 29 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Regardless of which narrative is true, just leaving here for the news factor and I'm gonna keep it moving⌠  Since I was negative in the last quote, let me do share from my reading that part of her avoidance for any ideology seems in part careerism but also a disinterest in politics and the politics of politics itself dddd. DGAF war veteran.  In a lot of texts, she's described as mainly interested in crimes against women and the legal system regarding children. A social chantuese who loved partying with San Fran's glitterati who would have probably run the tightest corporate Human Resource department you'd ever seen instead of getting involved in the dark underbelly of electoral politics ddd.  Quote Renne said she was looking for someone to head the office's Child and Family Service unit, which investigates child abuse cases. This was not considered a prestigious post. Prosecutors inside the unit had taken to calling it "kiddie law."  Renne thought Harris, who had focused on child abuse and sexual exploitation cases in Alameda County, would be a good fit.  That instinct was confirmed on Harris' first day on the job, Renne said, when a number of children who had been separated from their parents were formally adopted into new families.  "She comes into my office and says 'Come on, Louise, we've got to go over to court. There are going to be adoptions today,' and she had all these teddy bears," Renne recalled. "She knew the occasion. She knew it was an important one and it should be celebrated." https://sacobserver.com/2020/08/what-california-knows-about-kamala-harris/ 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Im screaming. If she thinks she can get away with partnering up with a literal IDF soldier then I truly have no words. 5
karron0624 Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Keep the prayer circle going ladies. Four more days until Beshear is announced. Anyone got a kamala beshear sign we can start spaming? Â 10
shelven Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, Vermillion said: @shelven Honey, it's all about the murder cover-up now, not even the sexual harassment.  They're both so bad  But I still think the sexual harassment will be the real sinker because it's a more straightforward story and it more clearly draws criticisms of hypocrisy against the ticket (i.e., the whole "how can you brag about prosecuting sex offenders when your own VP pick keeps sexual harrassers around as a top aide for months" angle). It will also be easier to handwave the murder cover-up as a conspiracy theory or a big stretch, whereas the defense against the harassment scandal ("he was just waiting for the results of the investigation!!") is less persuasive. 2
Communion Posted August 2 Posted August 2 3 minutes ago, shelven said: They're both so bad  But I still think the sexual harassment will be the real sinker because it's a more straightforward story and it more clearly draws criticisms of hypocrisy against the ticket (i.e., the whole "how can you brag about prosecuting sex offenders when your own VP pick keeps sexual harrassers around as a top aide for months" angle). It will also be easier to handwave the murder cover-up as a conspiracy theory or a big stretch, whereas the defense against the harassment scandal ("he was just waiting for the results of the investigation!!") is less persuasive. You missed the best part.  His registered Republican* top adviser.  2 1
Wonderland Posted August 2 Posted August 2 The way I bet the campaign has seen none of this tea through their "vetting" Â 1
Bamboo Posted August 2 Posted August 2 They definitely know all the things circling about Shapiro. They've known it since before all of us probably have. Maybe they're the ones pushing it into the mainstream for all we know to gauge public reaction.  I just don't believe 1% in PA is worth all the baggage and finally giving republicans some ammo against the campaign. With Beshear or Walz they would still probably be floundering for attacks. With Shapiro, they have a pretty easy angle. 8
Devin Posted August 2 Posted August 2 not the mayor of philadelphia mistakenly announces shapiro as the vp. i was here for him at first til his whole history leaked.
Sannie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 43 minutes ago, Communion said: Since I was negative in the last quote, let me do share from my reading that part of her avoidance for any ideology seems in part careerism but also a disinterest in politics and the politics of politics itself dddd. DGAF war veteran.  In a lot of texts, she's described as mainly interested in crimes against women and the legal system regarding children. A social chantuese who loved partying with San Fran's glitterati who would have probably run the tightest corporate Human Resource department you'd ever seen instead of getting involved in the dark underbelly of electoral politics ddd.  https://sacobserver.com/2020/08/what-california-knows-about-kamala-harris/ By all accounts and measures, it does seem like she is a genuinely good person, at least when it comes to children. That's why it's odd that she's not insistent on stopping the genocide since children are being horrifically impacted. Maybe it's coping on my end, but it could very well be her being "I'm VP so I have to fall in line" like she's kind of always been. That's not right or moral, but could be an explanation. 1
midnightdawn Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) Kamala sis run before it's too late  Edited August 2 by midnightdawn 9
Thickorita Posted August 2 Posted August 2 "While he was in high school, Josh Shapiro was required to do a service project, which he and several classmates completed through a program that took them to a kibbutz in Israel where he worked on a farm and at a fishery," Shapiro's spokesperson Manuel Bonder tells The Times of Israel. Â "The program also included volunteering on service projects on an Israeli army base. At no time was he engaged in any military activities," Bonder adds in a statement responding to an inquiry regarding the nature of his volunteer work. Â What volunteering work was a high schooler from the US doing on a military base in Israel? Â 7
NausAllien Posted August 2 Posted August 2 So... It's everything but confirmed at this point:  Polymarket  2
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