ClashAndBurn Posted July 31 Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Rotunda said: I mean outside of voting what are you doing to effect change in the world..? What is there to do? Everything is pointless. Grassroots organizing is pointless when the candidate with the least authentic grassroots support in 2020 failed upwards into the VP slot and into the 2024 nomination. And is now on track to pick the most repulsive running mate imaginable that everyone around her with eyes could tell her would be an extremely toxic partner for reasons beyond his abominable Gaza stance. So no, I honestly don't even care, and frankly don't even see the point of anything anymore. 4
Sannie Posted July 31 Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Communion said: Is the endorsement of anal rape as a torture tactic electorally popular? Will American voters believe waterboarding and electrocuting Palestinian teenagers fall within the realistic reasoning that "Israel has a right to defend itself"? Literally no where is Kamala endorsing the anal rape of children. Again, why are you jumping through these hoops to make connections like this? Donald Trump actually raped children with Jeffrey Epstein but you're okay with him being put back into the White House? C'mon. 1 7
Rotunda Posted July 31 Posted July 31 1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said: What is there to do? Everything is pointless. Grassroots organizing is pointless when the candidate with the least authentic grassroots support in 2020 failed upwards into the VP slot and into the 2024 nomination. And is now on track to pick the most repulsive running mate imaginable that everyone around her with eyes could tell her would be an extremely toxic partner for reasons beyond his abominable Gaza stance. So no, I honestly don't even care, and frankly don't even see the point of anything anymore. Intriguing, thank you for your candor
karron0624 Posted July 31 Posted July 31 Yall really should wait until the VP is announced. The interviews with Kamala arent even finished yet. They started yesterday, and one is rumored to be postponed until tomorrow. On Friday is when a decision will be made, and thats when the rumors will actually start flying. But i can see some potential vps starting rumors of them being selected in order to try to corner Kamala. Also, if it is Shapiro, it was literally who we all predicted should be her running mate a month ago. His stances havent changed over a month, its a smart political move, and its one we all knew she might need to make. Im not sure why we are changing from the end goal. @ClashAndBurn get a grip and go outside. It is not that bog of a deal. 1 2 1
Sannie Posted July 31 Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: What is there to do? Everything is pointless. Grassroots organizing is pointless when the candidate with the least authentic grassroots support in 2020 failed upwards into the VP slot and into the 2024 nomination. And is now on track to pick the most repulsive running mate imaginable that everyone around her with eyes could tell her would be an extremely toxic partner for reasons beyond his abominable Gaza stance. So no, I honestly don't even care, and frankly don't even see the point of anything anymore. YASSS, repeat those GOP talking points. Before you know it, you'll be calling Harris a "DEI hire". But I do appreciate the honesty, and do genuinely wish you didn't feel so defeated. We're in the position we're in right now where we have to accept the bare minimum because you and people like you never cared to vote in the first place. 1
Blade Posted July 31 Posted July 31 I can only assume that "SCOOP" was clickbait based on speculation from the Philly Dems.
NausAllien Posted July 31 Posted July 31 If Kamala picks Josh, I think it will be a clear SIGN that nothing will fundamentally change when it comes to the official position in the Palestine-Israel conflict. She might use "prettier" words and pretend to care about the suffering of Palestinians, but nothing will change. In fact, having someone like Josh could make things even worse. 3
NausAllien Posted July 31 Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, karron0624 said: Yall really should wait until the VP is announced. The interviews with Kamala arent even finished yet. They started yesterday, and one is rumored to be postponed until tomorrow. On Friday is when a decision will be made, and thats when the rumors will actually start flying. But i can see some potential vps starting rumors of them being selected in order to try to corner Kamala. Also, if it is Shapiro, it was literally who we all predicted should be her running mate a month ago. His stances havent changed over a month, its a smart political move, and its one we all knew she might need to make. Im not sure why we are changing from the end goal. @ClashAndBurn get a grip and go outside. It is not that bog of a deal. When most of us were saying that Shapiro was a good pick, we didn't know even half of his most controversial statements and policies. The more we learned about him, the clearer it became he wouldn't be a good pick. Even strategically, he's not a good pick. He might deliver her PA, but it'll cost her Michigan, and millions of young progressive voters. 2
Sannie Posted July 31 Posted July 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NausAllien said: If Kamala picks Josh, I think it will be a clear SIGN that nothing will fundamentally change when it comes to the official position in the Palestine-Israel conflict. She might use "prettier" words and pretend to care about the suffering of Palestinians, but nothing will change. In fact, having someone like Josh could make things even worse. Josh will have no bearing on what Kamala does. Let's be clear about that. But I don't think you're wrong. Kamala has never, not once hinted that she was going to be some progressive like so many people think. She will most likely be a moderate Democrat. We don't know yet. 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: When most of us were saying that Shapiro was a good pick, we didn't know even half of his most controversial statements and policies. The more we learned about him, the clearer it became he wouldn't be a good pick. Even strategically, he's not a good pick. He might deliver her PA, but it'll cost her Michigan, and millions of young progressive voters. Again, no evidence as of yet that it'll cost her MI. Progressives think the Arab vote in Michigan is a monolith when it's not. And young progressive voters don't vote. That's an oxymoron. Edited July 31 by Sannie
Communion Posted July 31 Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Sannie said: Literally no where is Kamala endorsing the anal rape of children. Sending weapons to a nation violating international law by deploying sexual torture as a tactic against children is not an endorsement? If Harris does not endorse the use of rape and torture, what American policy is she going to change to show she condemns rape being a systematic tool of war by Israel? 1 2
ClashAndBurn Posted July 31 Posted July 31 Just now, Sannie said: YASSS, repeat those GOP talking points. Before you know it, you'll be calling Harris a "DEI hire". But I do appreciate the honesty, and do genuinely wish you didn't feel so defeated. We're in the position we're in right now where we have to accept the bare minimum because you and people like you never cared to vote in the first place. I voted every election I was eligible to participate in before this one. I was already not voting for a pro-genocide freak like Joe Biden or someone who would be even worse like Shapiro. Believe me, I am thinking about the future, and a world where Josh Shapiro's ideology is rewarded with the presidency in 8 years is not one I have any desire to live or participate in. I don't consider her a DEI hire, so miss me with that. But she's never earned a single delegate in her life. Not one. 3 1
jadeabove Posted July 31 Posted July 31 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: What is there to do? Everything is pointless. Grassroots organizing is pointless when the candidate with the least authentic grassroots support in 2020 failed upwards into the VP slot and into the 2024 nomination. And is now on track to pick the most repulsive running mate imaginable that everyone around her with eyes could tell her would be an extremely toxic partner for reasons beyond his abominable Gaza stance. So no, I honestly don't even care, and frankly don't even see the point of anything anymore. If you can have access to it, I urge you to find a therapist because while I partly understand your sentiment, what you seem to be expressing is grief, anger, frustration and this is turning into something that is self-destructive. Avoidance is always a temporary solution. Not a long-term solution. Edited July 31 by jadeabove 4 1
thedeathbymusic Posted July 31 Posted July 31 all these meltdowns when I know in my heart Beshear will be announced as VP on Monday 7 1 3
Kylizzle Posted July 31 Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I voted every election I was eligible to participate in before this one. I was already not voting for a pro-genocide freak like Joe Biden or someone who would be even worse like Shapiro. Believe me, I am thinking about the future, and a world where Josh Shapiro's ideology is rewarded with the presidency in 8 years is not one I have any desire to live or participate in. I don't consider her a DEI hire, so miss me with that. But she's never earned a single delegate in her life. Not one. The fact that Fox News Correspondent Tulsi Gabbard has earned more delegates in her career than Kamala Harris 2
Communion Posted July 31 Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Sannie said: Kamala has never, not once hinted that she was going to be some progressive So then why is there outrage over the idea that progressives simply won't vote for her? If she doesn't want progressives to vote for her, clearly she believes a different strategy is more efficient. That's then your issue to take up with her if she rolls the dice and loses. 2
Kitty Kat Posted July 31 Posted July 31 I know I come in here sharing clips of ironic things... but damn 1
Tovitov Posted July 31 Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Kylizzle said: The fact that Fox News Correspondent Tulsi Gabbard has earned more delegates in her career than Kamala Harris Y'all keep saying that like it's a bad thing. She was smart enough to realise she wouldnt win and dropped out. As opposed to Tulsi who torpedo'ed her congressional career with a vanity run for president and became so unpopular in her congressional district she retired and became a Fox News contributor. 8 1
Armani? Posted July 31 Posted July 31 45 minutes ago, Rotunda said: Oh wow, I didn't even know Civics was a B I like looking at their polls
Tovitov Posted July 31 Posted July 31 Just now, Rotunda said: I thought we left this stupidity in 2020 Alaska is slowly shifting left. It's only 3 electoral votes though
Lightbringer007 Posted July 31 Posted July 31 14 minutes ago, Tovitov said: The way some of y'all just need to wait till tuesday literally like BREATHE ma 2
Redstreak Posted July 31 Posted July 31 Still holding out hope for that Kentucky source saying beshear got more security 1
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