Communion Posted July 30 Posted July 30 47 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: Not Kamala potentially picking him for some of the same reasons Trump chose Mike Pence. The top two VP choices for progressives being a high school football coach vs an interfaith summer camp counselor, and I'm all here for it. 1 2 6
Sannie Posted July 30 Posted July 30 "So Donald, if you got something to say, say it to my face." Dddddddd obsessed with her (the bar is on the floor but still).
Sannie Posted July 30 Posted July 30 I hope Trump does debate her. This speech shows she will walk in circles around that blabbering idiot. OMG.
ShouldersSideways Posted July 30 Posted July 30 16 minutes ago, Bewitched said: idk wether or not to feel bad for him considering he still continued to work for his uncle after he said that (not about his son but about disabled ppl in general) I know this is nothing new since 2016, but the fact this would've been immediately disqualifying for a candidate before Trump but will probably not move the needle on him now is just... there are no words.
Tovitov Posted July 30 Posted July 30 7 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: The way this actually gave me chills.
Sannie Posted July 30 Posted July 30 You can tell there are moments when Kamala gets a li'l angry and wants to go off script but then she pulls herself back and continues. Let it out, Queen. We want to see the real you. 1
DR0GO Posted July 31 Posted July 31 CBS News confirmed that the VP pick will be announced by Monday. Final interview(s) with Kamala are happening in the next two days. 1
JustHoran Posted July 31 Posted July 31 She's so Presidential and inspiring. I've legit not been excited like this since Obama 6
Vermillion Posted July 31 Posted July 31 16 minutes ago, Blade said: How I feel about the ad: Likewise on my thoughts on this. I won't expand on this until a layer on this issue becomes more salient in mentions, ads or debates. 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted July 31 ATRL Moderator Posted July 31 Major miscalculation on Kamala’s part to try to outpace Trump from the right on immigration. You can’t beat him on that issue when he so openly hates immigrants. Xenophobia will not win you votes. 4
Blade Posted July 31 Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, DR0GO said: CBS News confirmed that the VP pick will be announced by Monday. Final interview(s) with Kamala are happening in the next two days. I'm assuming the "battleground state tour" reported a few hours ago doesn't have a set schedule? If it was released, it may give us insight into who was picked. God forbid it start in PA.
Armani? Posted July 31 Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Bloo said: Major miscalculation on Kamala's part to try to outpace Trump from the right on immigration. You can't beat him on that issue when he so openly hates immigrants. Xenophobia will not win you votes. They have a point about Trump telling Republicans to vote down the bill just so he can campaign on it but that's about it 2
Rotunda Posted July 31 Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, Bloo said: Major miscalculation on Kamala's part to try to outpace Trump from the right on immigration. You can't beat him on that issue when he so openly hates immigrants. Xenophobia will not win you votes. I don't think that's what's happening at all though? This reads to me as a very generic defense against the weakest part of her record. She has to explain that she was trying and will do something about the border. Her focusing on human traffickers and drug traffickers at the border rather than specific illegal immigrants current living in the U.S. is the correct framing. 2
Blade Posted July 31 Posted July 31 I think the more border patrol agents part could have been left out of the ad. The point about fentanyl should have been the main part of the attack.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted July 31 ATRL Moderator Posted July 31 Just now, Rotunda said: I don't think that's what's happening at all though? This reads to me as a very generic defense against the weakest part of her record. She has to explain that she was trying and will do something about the border. Her focusing on human traffickers and drug traffickers at the border rather than specific illegal immigrants current living in the U.S. is the correct framing. Saying that she is running with Biden's policy when he has been shifting to a conservative hardline policy against asylum seekers is over the top and unhelpful. If anything, should be drawing more disassociation with Biden's policies. She can claim the popular bits of Biden's presidency (mostly his pro-union rhetoric and his work with the NLRB). But, he was widely despised on immigration and, even from a politically cynical lens, it makes no sense to broadly embrace Biden's rhetoric on immigration.
Tovitov Posted July 31 Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Bloo said: Major miscalculation on Kamala's part to try to outpace Trump from the right on immigration. You can't beat him on that issue when he so openly hates immigrants. Xenophobia will not win you votes. I disagree. Trump killing the bipartisan border bill to score politicial points isnt being talked about enough It's Trump's number 1 issue and him being a massive hypocrite should be immensely damaging. 1
Sannie Posted July 31 Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Rotunda said: I don't think that's what's happening at all though? This reads to me as a very generic defense against the weakest part of her record. She has to explain that she was trying and will do something about the border. Her focusing on human traffickers and drug traffickers at the border rather than specific illegal immigrants current living in the U.S. is the correct framing. thank you. I was trying to figure out how to articulate this and you nailed it. It is the bare minimum she can do; it's lip service. Acting like she's moving to the right of Trump when he LITERALLY WANTS TO ROUND UP ANYONE WHO LOOKS BROWN AND THROW THEM IN DETENTION CAMPS is insane and disingenuous. People might not want to accept this, but immigration is a big deal to a lot of Americans, even those who aren't conservative. It's partly because Dems have allowed Republicans to take over that narrative, but it's there nevertheless. She has to address it and at least pretend she'll do something. 5 minutes ago, Blade said: I think the more border patrol agents part could have been left out of the ad. The point about fentanyl should have been the main part of the attack. I agree with this, though. I went "yikes" when that part popped up, but ultimately the ad's not meant to get me on her side so that's fine. 1
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