DR0GO Posted July 30 Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Redstreak said: Are you trying to give me a heart attack? Please Kamala, Beshear or Walz. 1
Blade Posted July 30 Posted July 30 From Nate Silver: Quote The bull case for Harris, then, is simply if you think that she can sustain her higher numbers but Trump can't. And that's hardly crazy. America has a long history with Trump, and he's been unpopular for nearly all of that. Sympathy over the assassination attempt may decline as the rough-and-tumble of the campaign resumes, and after a fundraising surge, Democrats will have infinity dollars to spend to define Trump and JD Vance negatively. And believe it or not, Democrats are actually pretty good at winning elections, as evidenced by their strong 2018 and 2022 midterms and their strong polling in Senate races. A "generic Democrat" may well be good enough against Trump, despite Democrats' Electoral College disadvantage. 1
Blade Posted July 30 Posted July 30 12 minutes ago, Eóghan said: For the people who followed the Hilary campaign closely back then; what was "Tim Kaine" like? All I know is that he was absolutely steamrolled by Hilary's aura, which was maybe what she wanted. Was he more of a Walz, Beshear or Shapiro? He was like none of those to be completely honest. If anything he'd be like if Harris picked Cooper. He added nothing. Hillary could have said "i'm gonna do something different and not announce a VP until after the election" and it wouldn't have changed the race because he was so irrelevant. I don't even remember how he speaks. 7 5
TaggedGalaxy Posted July 30 Posted July 30 The way Reddit creams themselves over Mark Kelly just because he was an astronaut 3
DR0GO Posted July 30 Posted July 30 18 minutes ago, Eóghan said: For the people who followed the Hilary campaign closely back then; what was "Tim Kaine" like? All I know is that he was absolutely steamrolled by Hilary's aura, which was maybe what she wanted. Was he more of a Walz, Beshear or Shapiro? Oh God, Tim Kaine. He wasn't like any of them, to be honest. Closest comparison would be Roy Cooper. He was very vanilla, not controversial, bland and safe. I'd say the main reason he was picked was because he was from Virginia and winning that state (along with the blue wall, and FL) was a big part of Hillary's strategy during the 2016 election. 2
DR0GO Posted July 30 Posted July 30 1 minute ago, TaggedGalaxy said: The way Reddit creams themselves over Mark Kelly just because he was an astronaut Where has he been these past few days? I get the feeling that he doesn't really want the VP role like that.
Armani? Posted July 30 Posted July 30 31 minutes ago, GhostBox said: She will win and prove his model wrong 👏🏼👏🏼 38% chance is if the election happened today... 1
Thuggin Posted July 30 Posted July 30 I'd honestly rather she choose Buttigieg over Obama impersonator Shapiro or a Tim Kaine clone
GraceRandolph Posted July 30 Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Thuggin said: I'd honestly rather she choose Buttigieg over Obama impersonator Shapiro or a Tim Kaine clone Who is the Tim Kaine clone? Buttigieg was giving Obama impersonator in 2020 tbh.
GhostBox Posted July 30 Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Who is the Tim Kaine clone? Buttigieg was giving Obama impersonator in 2020 tbh. Roy cooper was the Tim kaine choice of this election. The rest left all bring something to the table at least.
Blade Posted July 30 Posted July 30 Btw you can't really "prove a model wrong" when it gives one person 62% and the other 38%. It's basically saying both of these things have a decent chance of happening but one is favored. It'd be different if RFK won when the model says that's virtually 0% chance. Then that'd be proving it wrong. 1 6
justin. Posted July 30 Posted July 30 36 minutes ago, Eóghan said: For the people who followed the Hilary campaign closely back then; what was "Tim Kaine" like? All I know is that he was absolutely steamrolled by Hilary's aura, which was maybe what she wanted. Was he more of a Walz, Beshear or Shapiro? As someone who lives in Virginia, I can tell you Tim Kaine is absolutely boring (and I'm glad; a senator doesn't need to be exciting). He was and is completely bland and inoffensive. And he occasionally speaks in Spanish for no apparent reason. 1
Thuggin Posted July 30 Posted July 30 6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Who is the Tim Kaine clone? Buttigieg was giving Obama impersonator in 2020 tbh. Mark Kelly, as a boring old white guy Senator from a swing state, is still a Tim Kaine to me and no amount of people soyfacing over him having been an astronaut changes that, like what is this, the 90s? But I agree Buttigieg definitely used to be guilty of that too. Or maybe he still is and I just don't notice it as much because now he's usually sparring with Fox News hosts instead of campaigning at rallies.
clee95 Posted July 30 Posted July 30 Please for the love of God, dont **** this up with Shapiro. Many smart people work within the democratic party, hope that they can see the problems that come with Shapiro. 4
GraceRandolph Posted July 30 Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Thuggin said: Mark Kelly, as a boring old white guy Senator from a swing state, is still a Tim Kaine to me and no amount of people soyfacing over him having been an astronaut changes that, like what is this, the 90s? But I agree Buttigieg definitely used to be guilty of that too. Or maybe he still is and I just don't notice it as much because now he's usually sparring with Fox News hosts instead of campaigning at rallies. Yeah, the idea that Mark Kelly would deliver Arizona makes no sense either. Really Beshear feels like the only choice that makes a lot of sense but he comes off as nervous in interviews.
FameFatale Posted July 30 Posted July 30 52 minutes ago, Blade said: Wait.... But why is this kind of giving "I was just told I am the VP candidate and i'm so thankful" 1
Sannie Posted July 30 Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, Blade said: That suburban number is gonna shoot up once Andy is announced. 1 1
Blade Posted July 30 Posted July 30 1 minute ago, Sannie said: That suburban number is gonna shoot up once Andy is announced. I hate to be shallow but let's not underestimate the appeal of someone attractive on the ticket Spoiler although I still prefer Walz 3
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