Redstreak Posted July 26 Posted July 26 11 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Β Andy and Walz are the two best choices, Kamala girl don't **** it up. Ride with the momentum 13 1
Sannie Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Do we have the data yet to support that his supporters wouldΒ stay home? WillΒ we get that data? I guess we won't know until he drops and they re-poll, but if Trump getting shot didn't even help him, crazy RFK dropping out won't either. Β
Thickorita Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Kinda hoped RFK would qualify for a debate - I reckon it would be even more disastrous than Biden's performance. I saw an interview and he perpetually sounds like he's gonna **** and vomit at the same time. He needs to lay off the roidsΒ 1
Sannie Posted July 26 Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, Thickorita said: Kinda hoped RFK would qualify for a debate - I reckon it would be even more disastrous than Biden's performance. I saw an interview and he perpetually sounds like he's gonna **** and vomit at the same time. He needs to lay off the roidsΒ Not to defend him, but doesn't he have a medical condition that causes him to speak the way he does?
Vermillion Posted July 26 Posted July 26 It was shrapnel that hit Trump, but since the Secret Service is apparently hellbent on saving face after the head's firing and Trump's doubled down on it being the bullet we'reβ¦never getting answers? Β Whatever. Β
thesegayz Posted July 26 Posted July 26 We've with nonstop news for the past month and a half, always coming on the weekend. I really hope this weekend is quiet. I don't need anything massive to occur
Thickorita Posted July 26 Posted July 26 3 minutes ago, Sannie said: Not to defend him, but doesn't he have a medical condition that causes him to speak the way he does? Oop never mind my ignorant ass then. Could at least advocate for M4A though Β 1
Raspberries Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Peter Thiel is such a piece of **** lmao how are you gay and financially support this ****
Vermillion Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Quote Β J.D. Vance's ascendance to vice presidential candidate on the Republican ticket, with ardent backing by tech investor and megadonor Peter Thiel, may seem improbable given the tech sector's longstanding role in Democratic Party fundraising.Β Yet Thiel's support of Vance reflects a larger backlash against the power of legacy tech firms in the United States. As some pro-tech Democrats chafe against the Biden administration's antitrust efforts, and Republicans nominate a former Silicon Valley venture capitalist who has voiced support for those same efforts, it is clear that the tech sector is further splintering politically. Vance's rise reflects the power of moneyed tech leaders who unapologetically assert principles of techno-libertarianism, or the idea that technology firms should be free from most government intervention. This view is growing in political power and influence in the GOP. Thiel gave Vance a job in his Silicon Valley venture capital firm and boosted Vance's successful U.S. Senate campaign in Ohio by $15 million β the largest amount ever contributed to a single Senate candidate, Politico reported in 2022. He also connected Vance with former President Trump. Meanwhile, tech billionaire Elon Musk is financially supporting Trump through his America PAC.Β This represents a shift from the tech sector's reputation as a bastion of support for the Democratic Party. Many startup founders have been based on the progressive West Coast, particularly in California, and for years there's been a revolving door of Democratic officials leaving D.C. for high-profile roles in Silicon Valley. Against that backdrop, the tech sector has largely furthered the Democrats' interests β including by serving as campaign staffers, offering digital expertise and acting as major donors. Yet as the sector has grown, so has the backlash against Big Tech as well as the calls from voters and politicians on both sides of the aisle to regulate the industry. Antitrust efforts, including from current Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan, have rung alarm bells for tech firms seeking to preserve their market share. For his part, blaming the state's "overregulation" and liberal policy, Musk announced this month that he will move the headquarters of X (formerly Twitter) and SpaceX out of California to Texas, highlighting the widening gulf between the techno-libertarian wing and the Democratic mainstream. Potentially complicating the picture, Vance has singled out Khan "as one of the few people in the Biden administration that I think is doing a pretty good job." Khan has brought anti-monopoly lawsuits against large firms including Amazon, so it might appear that Vance supports regulation and oversight. However, it's more likely that his position reflects a pro-competition streak designed to maximize the number of firms that can compete with the big players. Indeed, Thiel has argued that Google is a monopoly, and he donated to then-Missouri Atty. Gen. Josh Hawley around the time the latter launched an investigation into Google (though Hawley denied any connection between the campaign contributions and his probe of the tech giant).Β Thus it seems that the Vance-Thiel alliance is aimed at challenging the firms that have been identified as potential monopolies and now represent an establishment hoarding power away from emergent companies that hope for minimal oversight (such as the startups Thiel invests in, and the EV sector Musk has sought to dominate). Thiel and Musk, as key figures in the techno-libertarian movement, are making a reasonable bet that their regulatory environment will be much more permissive under a second Trump administration. But at the same time, they have signaled openness to policy that weakens the dominant companies. Of course, personal investments can change that calculus. Consider Trump's massive turnaround from trying to ban TikTok's U.S. operations to opposing a ban after meeting with GOP megadonor Jeff Yass, who owns a stake in TikTok's parent company. It also remains to be seen how long Trump's otherwise hawkish approach to China's tech sector, exemplified by a preference for increased tariffs and export controls, will persist. Thiel has roundly critiqued Apple and Google's ties to China. On the other hand, Musk's Tesla business depends on the Chinese market, which is its second largest after the United States. As of 2023, nearly 40% of Tesla's battery components also come from China, and the firm is building a sizable battery factory in Shanghai. In selecting Vance, Trump has successfully courted support from some of the biggest money there is. But the new fault lines in Silicon Valley politics have become harder to predict. If Trump prevails, his administration may well dodge or roll back regulation β except of those companies and individuals perceived as too threatening to his and Vance's allies. @Raspberries
Yog Posted July 26 Posted July 26 18 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Β I was just about to post this β€οΈ it's clear as day ANYONE with common sense doesn't want an second trump term, it's truly an fight for our democracy, and we will prevail Β 1 1
Sannie Posted July 26 Posted July 26 12 minutes ago, Raspberries said: Peter Thiel is such a piece of **** lmao how are you gay and financially support this **** Money. When you get to be as rich as Thiel, you aren't affected by anti gay politics any longer.Β 1
DR0GO Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Who would you say is the most effective public speaker out of all the VP options?Β
Rotunda Posted July 26 Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, DR0GO said: Who would you say is the most effective public speaker out of all the VP options?Β Shapiro or Buttigieg tbhΒ 1
GhostBox Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) Not the CNN reporters on Twitter bringing back up old ass "defund the police" stuff to try to bash Harris with it ππΒ Β they really can't stand a race were they cant "both sides" it π Β Β Edited July 26 by GhostBox
NausAllien Posted July 26 Posted July 26 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Not the CNN reporters on Twitter bringing back up old ass "defund the police" stuff to try to bash Harris with it ππΒ Β they really can't stand a race were they cant "both sides" it π Β Β CNN is one of the last news media that at least tries to be impartial. You shouldn't want it to become MSNBC or Fox News. Β 1
Raspberries Posted July 26 Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Β ItΒ was in play. Not now. Have fun wasting the money 5
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