JustHoran Posted July 26 Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Vermillion said: I don't watch much TV, but I'm constantly seeing her ads now today on YouTube and FB. 1
Chemist Posted July 26 Posted July 26 3 hours ago, Rotunda said: the fact that some box member in this thread had the nerve to say that Biden had more chances It would have been a total wipe out 8
Eat The Acid Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Not the Dr. Jill Putin Stein fangirling That Russian apologist stands behind progressive policies to hide her pro Russian agenda. That woman is not trustworthy. Now Rashida Tlaib… that's a different story … we need powerful progressive and well intentioned women like her running for senate/president 10 1
ZIVERT Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Barack set an alarm for 5 AM to wake up and tweet his endorsement for Kamala. Finally! 5 1
Komet Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Obama Endorsing when America is asleep is a kii. Anyway, glad we can move on.
Harrier Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Kamala provided much more contrast with Biden on Gaza than I expected she would in her speech. She threaded the needle effectively, hats off to her - it'll still cost her with the Israel lobby. Just goes to show that Joe's blind support was genuinely ideological on his part and not necessarily reflective of where even democratic strategists are. 5
bjorn Posted July 26 Posted July 26 3 hours ago, rihannabiggestfan said: Well yes, most of the 18-29 age range has taste, we don't want to vote for extreme Zionist neolib garbage like the AIPAC-bankrolled cop or Gaga we would rather vote for Marianne, Bernie, Rashida, or Dr. Jill (Stein, of course - not the pretentious one who has neither an M.D. nor a Ph.D.) Just look at the way my young-soul President is destroying the cop online. Kamala has an absolutely abysmal record (not to mention an absolutely abysmal record at running for president, she couldn't even attain 1,000 votes . Compare that with how many votes Bernie and Marianne got). Also, it's not a coincidence that she has the most despicable cult fanbase in all of politics (KHive) ... because like attracts like. And as if she's not unlikable enough already, any time her cultists attack progressives such as Marianne in order to defend her, they just make her cop ass look even worse ... Plus that's not a good way to convince people to vote for your dear neolib leader, lol - it's merely an effective way to make it more likely that people WON'T vote for her. But anyway, I wanna bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately, negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country TO-DAY. Now, Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president. But I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples to cite but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence - she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California, and she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way. The bottom line is, Harris, when you were in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people's lives, you did not and worse yet in the case of those who are on death row, innocent people, you actually blocked evidence from being revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so. There is no excuse for that and the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor — you owe them an apology. Also, QUEEN Rashida - she never disappoints. The way extreme Zionists called for her to leave the country after her "Guilty of Genocide" sign say the treasonous Americans simping for the leader of a foreign "country"? How ironic. And speaking of treason, how is AIPAC not registered as a foreign agent yet? Oh wait, the answer is money and corruption (both of which Kamala will NOT stand up to, unlike progressives) I guess Walz would be a good VP, but still not good enough to earn my vote. You can only put SO much lipstick on a Hawaiian-roasted pig. Kamala for president 4
Wonderland Posted July 26 Posted July 26 39 minutes ago, Komet said: Obama Endorsing when America is asleep is a kii. Anyway, glad we can move on. He just wanted to snatch the morning news cycle 1 2
CaptainMusic Posted July 26 Posted July 26 3 hours ago, rihannabiggestfan said: Well yes, most of the 18-29 age range has taste, we don't want to vote for extreme Zionist neolib garbage like the AIPAC-bankrolled cop or Gaga we would rather vote for Marianne, Bernie, Rashida, or Dr. Jill (Stein, of course - not the pretentious one who has neither an M.D. nor a Ph.D.) …Weren't you a Tulsi stan? Your opinion is irrelevant. - Anyway, glad Obama finally endorsed Kamala. 9
Bloodflowers. Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 hours ago, midnightdawn said: Palin did well at first. Her RNC speech was good and she went after Obama in a way that the GOP hadn't been able to do. She was charismatic and fundraising took off and the polls tightened. But then when she sat down to do tv interviews it fell apart and the subsequent SNL mocking from Tina Fey. But McCain was basically going to lose that election regardless and selecting her was desperate attempt to do something different that might change the race. Whereas Trump is the front runner and picked someone that is dragging the ticket within weeks of being selected. I don't think Palin lost McCain the election but Vance could cost Trump the race when you compare him with what the other options would have done for the ticket. I always thought they choose Sarah Palin on the ticket because she was a woman and they needed a historic ticket on their own to try counter-balance Obama's historic ticket 2
Armani? Posted July 26 Posted July 26 The fact it's probably in margin of error so it doesn't matter 6
Wonderland Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, Armani? said: The fact it's probably in margin of error so it doesn't matter John James not even voting for ha 2
Harrier Posted July 26 Posted July 26 21 minutes ago, Armani? said: The fact it's probably in margin of error so it doesn't matter 0% lmaoo. I love it. Reminds me of Pete Buttigieg's iconic 2020 numbers America would collapse tomorrow without black folks holding it the **** together 2
FameFatale Posted July 26 Posted July 26 5 hours ago, Vermillion said: Women getting it done 👏🏻 I love it! 1
Vermillion Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Oh, that member's back! I remember they were on here all the time fighting with everyone. As per usual - points I agree and disagree with. Sigh. Can't gauge much on Kamala's capability to change on the issues brought up unless, well…. I guess for starters unless that member was here more to have that discussion but oh well, moving on. 1
Vermillion Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I get the theory on staggering endorsements to make them more effective, and I know I'll get flack for this, but I don't think the wait was just prep on the Obamas part - I still believe a lot of the New York Post sourcing on him being against Biden's instant endorsement and for a contested convention and that he still thinks she's going to lose, have several gaffes, and bomb the debates. If folks want to insist the tabloid's intentionally making it up they're welcome to but there has been key political stories across the spectrum that have panned out from their sourcing. 2
TaggedGalaxy Posted July 26 Posted July 26 32 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: Not surprised, he is a small petulant child and I knew he would use any criticism against his fragile ego to try and blow up negotiations. She wasn't even critical of him and definitely not to the extent that some people wanted her to be. Hopefully they can still come to a ceasefire agreement, but unfortunately they have to play around his ego until then 2 1
Graves Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Obama's political instincts intrigue me No denying his power and sway went a long way to consolidating Biden's primary victory path back in 2020, but like... wasn't Obama also the one behind Deval Patrick's ill-fated, last minute, made-no-noise entry into that primary?
ClashAndBurn Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, Subomie said: Obama's political instincts intrigue me No denying his power and sway went a long way to consolidating Biden's primary victory path back in 2020, but like... wasn't Obama also the one behind Deval Patrick's ill-fated, last minute, made-no-noise entry into that primary? Obama was desperate to stop Bernie and Biden hadn't gotten the Clyburn endorsement that gave him such a commanding lead in South Carolina that he was able to freeze out the rest of the moderate lane. Biden was doing REALLY badly in the primary at the time, and his debate performances were sloppy and didn't inspire confidence even back then. South Carolina was always going to go big for him because he was Obama's VP and their voter base rewards establishment loyalty above all else. But the Clyburn endorsement was what really made him 10-15% more dominant 2 1
Musicmajor Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I think it was smart to stagger these endorsements, it brings consistent energy and good headlines for her campaign. Again, I say, her team has been so smart and effective so far! 7
Harrier Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I know the Obama endorsement is obviously significant, but there is always something self-important and cynical about his insistence on being the last horse out of the gate every single time. It irks me. Always pretending to not be a kingmaker when we all know he's making 501 calls behind the scenes It's why I've personally always had a soft spot for Hillary over Obama, in the contest of big neolib politicians. There's something more honest about her ruthless, straightforward politics - it makes her an unpopular liability prone to making politically stupid statements like the basket of deplorables etc, but there is just something I prefer about that to the slimeyness of Obama 1
MAKSIM Posted July 26 Posted July 26 3 minutes ago, Harriser said: I know the Obama endorsement is obviously significant, but there is always something self-important and cynical about his insistence on being the last horse out of the gate every single time. It irks me. Always pretending to not be a kingmaker when we all know he's making 501 calls behind the scenes It's why I've personally always had a soft spot for Hillary over Obama, in the contest of big neolib politicians. There's something more honest about her ruthless, straightforward politics - it makes her unpopular and prone to politically stupid statements like the basket of deplorables etc, but there is just something I prefer about that to the slimeyness of Obama Obama was a disappointment because he came in with a huge mandate and let it be completely overtaken by 1 piece of legislation, the ACA. Obviously, one of huge import, but imagine if a party had those numbers again. He was governing still in an era of respectability politics to "protect sacred institutions. Nowadays, there would be rubber stamping galore. 1
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