GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, Blade said: Which explains him debating wether or not to drop out and endorse Trump to get a cabinet spot 🤷
Sannie Posted July 25 Posted July 25 7 minutes ago, Thuggin said: 2008: 95/4 2012: 93/6 2016: 88/8 2020: 87/12 72/19 seems unrealistic but it's easy to believe that gap has further closed for 2024 as part of a larger trend of Republicans making gains with POC and Democrats making gains with older whites. Hmm, I wonder if Kamala being the nominee will help. Those numbers in 2009 and 2012 were obviously because of Obama.
Armani? Posted July 25 Posted July 25 21 minutes ago, Yog said: Umm should we worry about this? This seems normal??? But I don't know how it compares to 2020
Tovitov Posted July 25 Posted July 25 No sane presidential candidate is going to condone flag burning. 1
GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 1 minute ago, Tovitov said: No sane presidential candidate is going to condone flag burning. Exactly. The ones on this forum thinking one should are so ******* stupid 😂 1
Armani? Posted July 25 Posted July 25 16 minutes ago, Thuggin said: 2008: 95/4 2012: 93/6 2016: 88/8 2020: 87/12 72/19 seems unrealistic but it's easy to believe that gap has further closed for 2024 as part of a larger trend of Republicans making gains with POC and Democrats making gains with older whites. It's important to note though that 2008 & 2012 was literally Obama, in 2004 it was back down to 88/11 So....eh. The only Black demographic that had the most Trump support was Black Millennials in 2020 final exit polls. Everyone else were 90/10 https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/exit-polls-2020-us-presidential-election-results-analysis 2022 Midterm
Communion Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Yeah. She needs to ditch the Obama bros whispering in her ear about some mystical moderate vote that doesn't exist and who are pushing her to pick Shapiro. Her entire campaign thus far was that Republicans are weirdo but being your own kind of weirdo and arguing people should be arrested for peaceful protest protected under the 1st amendment like flag burning will ultimately undermine and erase any difference in the minds of voters that matter. 1
GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 5 minutes ago, FameFatale said: I just got an email from Mark Kelly for the Harris campaign He would be ok. I think he could smooth over his issues faster than a few of the other could
GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Yeah. She needs to ditch the Obama bros whispering in her ear about some mystical moderate vote that doesn't exist and who are pushing her to pick Shapiro. Her entire campaign thus far was that Republicans are weirdo but being your own kind of weirdo and arguing people should be arrested for peaceful protest protected under the 1st amendment like flag burning will ultimately undermine and erase any difference in the minds of voters that matter. Again if you all are wanting a presidential candidate to now condone American flag burning you guys are just seriously lost and not coming back to reality 💀 Edited July 25 by GhostBox 2 1 1
Komet Posted July 25 Posted July 25 12 minutes ago, Thuggin said: 2008: 95/4 2012: 93/6 2016: 88/8 2020: 87/12 72/19 seems unrealistic but it's easy to believe that gap has further closed for 2024 as part of a larger trend of Republicans making gains with POC and Democrats making gains with older whites. Fwiw, those seem to be exit polls. Pew Research has the numbers 91/6 in 2016 and 92/8 in 2020, based on validated voters. 72/19 is beyond absurd in any case and would be a shift not seen since god knows when. I'd be shocked if Kamala's black % ended up under 85. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/
CaptainMusic Posted July 25 Posted July 25 21 minutes ago, Thuggin said: 2008: 95/4 2012: 93/6 2016: 88/8 2020: 87/12 72/19 seems unrealistic but it's easy to believe that gap has further closed for 2024 as part of a larger trend of Republicans making gains with POC and Democrats making gains with older whites. Kamala doing worse than Hilary with black voters would be a damn mess
Vroom Vroom Posted July 25 Posted July 25 21 minutes ago, Blade said: Whitmer is the vp we deserve. Make it happen Kamala
GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The only good American flag is a crispy, blackened one. And that's your right to believe that and to burn one if you want. only person who wants to change that with laws is Trump 🤷
Cain Posted July 25 Posted July 25 2 hours ago, NausAllien said: Points were made. Trump is a narcissistic con man, Kamala an elitist fake progressive. I don't think either side cares that much. It's not about who's better for the job. It's all about defeating the "enemy" Welcome… to the US presidential election? It's literally never been any other way
Communion Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Just now, GhostBox said: to condone Again. Your entire political worldview was exposed as bankrupt, irrelevant, and itself failed the moment Biden dropped out. Nothing you could and will have to say holds substance or value. This is highlighted further when you seemingly act like you cannot read and instead post the same unrelated, blind defenses of any Democrat. Condemning an action because you disagree with it is not the same as arguing the action should not be allowed. Kamala's statement did the latter, not the former. And even if you lie and say you interpret it not to be a literal call to not allow something, it's a horrific statement given her past statements as VP. There's easily a way to say you find the burning of the American flag upsetting but want peace and discourse between all parties involved to understand how we got here. To say that the act shocks you and that you want to find out just how and why people can get to hating their own country. To say that this division ultimately lies on the shoulders of Bibi for pushing a genocide that breaks the hearts of millions and that you as the next president of America will see to it both Bibi and Hamas face accountability in The Hague. 2
GraceRandolph Posted July 25 Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, Cain said: Welcome… to the US presidential election? It's literally never been any other way If enough Dems pushed for an open convention things could've been different but Dems are sheeple. 1 1
Blade Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Idgaf about the flag. But Flag burning will never be allowed to be non-condemable for a serious US presidential candidate. 6
ClashAndBurn Posted July 25 Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: And that's your right to believe that and to burn one if you want. only person who wants to change that with laws is Trump 🤷 A law outlawing flag burning would have near unanimous bipartisan support (with some Squad and Thomas Massie as the only dissenters) and you know it Very real possibility that a bill like that would be the first thing a President Harris will sign, assuming Biden doesn't do it first. 1
GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Just now, Blade said: Idgaf about the flag. But Flag burning will never be allowed to be non-condemable for a serious US presidential candidate. Exactly
Communion Posted July 25 Posted July 25 5 minutes ago, Blade said: Idgaf about the flag. But Flag burning will never be allowed to be non-condemable for a serious US presidential candidate. I need you to understand you're not going to win any kind of messaging denial. No progressive is going to take her arguing flag burning should not be allowed is just her "condemning something she doesn't agree with". They're going to take it as a threat of action by a future president against free speech. Saying something should not be allowed is not an opinion when from a lawmaker. It's a policy proposal.
GhostBox Posted July 25 Posted July 25 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: A law outlawing flag burning would have near unanimous bipartisan support (with some Squad and Thomas Massie as the only dissenters) and you know it Very real possibility that a bill like that would be the first thing a President Harris will sign, assuming Biden doesn't do it first. Serious question. Are you ok? ever since Biden stepped down and Harris has taken over you seem to have went off the deep end more than you already were. 👀 1
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