GraceRandolph Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: Kelly hopefully. Swing state, veteran, astronaunt, border credibility, Gabby Giffords is his wife, the positives are huge. Kelly and Shapiro make no sense. Kamala is running on Biden's slightly more union favorable record and distancing herself from Biden's full throated support of Bibi, so she'd nominate someone who has a poor track record with labor (Kelly) or a huge Zionist (Shapiro)? It makes no sense. Beshear and Williamson are the only sensible VP picks.
Blade Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: Kelly and Shapiro make no sense. Kamala is running on Biden's slightly more union favorable record and distancing herself from Biden's full throated support of Bibi, so she'd nominate someone who has a poor track record with labor (Kelly) or a huge Zionist (Shapiro)? It makes no sense. Beshear and Williamson are the only sensible VP picks. Stop sneaking Williamson in. At best it's a bad joke and at worst it makes you look...uninformed, to put it nicely. 1 6 6
Sannie Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Maybe I'm just being delusional, but I have convinced myself that they have already chosen Andy and they're just dropping little hints to keep everyone off the scent. Maybe they want it to be a big surprise. A lot of the people reporting what she's currently doing were also reporting that the donors didn't want her and nobody wanted her to be the nominee only for her to then break fundraising records. that video clip of him, speaking in his soft country accent while defending transgender children, is resonating with a lot of people right now. Edited July 23 by Sannie 3 1
Eóghan Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Please not Mark Kelly, i'm already tired of the whole army veteran shtick ...
GraceRandolph Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Blade said: Stop sneaking Williamson in. At best it's a bad joke and at worst it makes you look...uninformed, to put it nicely. I noticed you didn't focus on any of the policy problems I listed about Shapiro and Kelly and immediately pivoted to highlighting Marianne.
Blade Posted July 23 Posted July 23 I still think people are underestimating AZ electorally for Dems. The abortion issue on the ballot + Kari Lake's unpopularity + Kelly's popularity would mean AZ is in play especially when 2016 and 2020 show that Wisconsin is one of the least accurately polled states. I can see Wisconsin being a Trump blow out. 1
Happylittlepunk Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Eóghan said: Please not Mark Kelly, i'm already tired of the whole army veteran shtick ... He is a better option than Shapiro. Shapiro already has a bad record with the youth and it be used against him. Mark Kelly is exactly who she needs to get those independents on her side. The military persona will make her look like the democrates really mean business.
Blade Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: I noticed you didn't focus on any of the policy problems I listed about Shapiro and Kelly and immediately pivoted to highlighting Marianne. I've already showed plenty of apprehension for Shapiro due to his Zionist views over the past 2 days. I do not think he is ideal but at the same time I don't think he tanks the ticket.
Blade Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, GraceRandolph said: We need someone hot for VP. Marianne OUT 9
Sannie Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Blade said: I've already showed plenty of apprehension for Shapiro due to his Zionist views over the past 2 days. I do not think he is ideal but at the same time I don't think he tanks the ticket. I keep going back-and-forth on Shapiro. On one hand, I think he helps us win the rustbelt, on the other hand what if the rustbelt comes down to Michigan voters or young voters? I can't figure out which one it could be. 3 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: Honestly, Biden didn't choose Kamala bc of her state, he chose her bc she was qualified and complemented the ticket and diversified the potential voter pool. So maybe a swing state won't be what's important for her pick. No, she definitely has to play it safe and pull somebody from a swing state or somebody that will appeal to swing state voters. Edited July 23 by Sannie
Aston Martin Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Beshear > Kelly but I'd take either over Shapiro tbh. Also if I see one more JD Vance ad on this page 2
Sannie Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Blade said: Obviously, it depends on from where these donations are coming, but it's hard to not think that this means something big? That's a lot of money coming from a lot of different people all around the country. Could this be the start of a huge ground movement that helps us push the needle just a little bit over the edge in the states we need? 1
Blade Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, WildAmerican said: ppl should keep posting him flopping tho Beshear's strength seems to be on the ground not one-on-one with reporters. He'd be useful in rallies and Town Halls
Sannie Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Blade said: PRAYER CIRCLE Not expecting much. I'll check back in, in a month.
WildAmerican Posted July 23 Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Blade said: PRAYER CIRCLE trump +1 incoming 2
bunnyeyes Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Prayer circle for Andy or less hopefully Mark it'll be one of them or a more progressive candidate, I am manifesting it. It is done. This pick will inadvertently set the tone. If Mark gets it though we'll need to strip him of any say on immigration issues though he at least expresses sympathy for migrants and the need to treat them with respect still not my first choice the deeper I dig but just okay as long as he doesn't go right. Come on Kamala we want progress! We want the buzz and excitement that mobilized voters in '08! Edited July 23 by bunnyeyes 1
NausAllien Posted July 23 Posted July 23 12 minutes ago, Sannie said: Obviously, it depends on from where these donations are coming, but it's hard to not think that this means something big? That's a lot of money coming from a lot of different people all around the country. Could this be the start of a huge ground movement that helps us push the needle just a little bit over the edge in the states we need? It all depends if these donations are coming from safe democratic districts/states, or from toss up districts/states. 1.1 unique donors doesn't seem THAT impressive. That means each donor on average gave 100 USD, which may also indicate a lack of support from low-income earners.
Kylizzle Posted July 23 Posted July 23 I don't think any polling will be useful until at least September or even October. We can only speculate what Kamala will be like as a candidate. 6
Communion Posted July 23 Posted July 23 40 minutes ago, Blade said: Hearing James Zogby vouch for her is interesting and at least of note.
GraceRandolph Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Kylizzle said: I don't think any polling will be useful until at least September or even October. We can only speculate what Kamala will be like as a candidate. I'm nervous. She's known she could have to take over as the nominee for awhile considering Biden's age as POTUS, but where is the strong message? What are her three main policy issues? How is she different from Biden?
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