Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 9 minutes ago, anti-***** said: But you know everyone in US politics is "disliked" these days. People will hate you just for being on the "other side" as them And that aid package to Ukraine was a drop in the bucket of the US government's budget. They would have money to house every homeless person in America but they're not doing it because they don't want to Let's have the Republicans revert back to the FDR tax code @NausAllien, at a bare minimum. Then we can talk about fiscal priorities and responsibility. No? Why not?
NausAllien Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Vermillion said: @NausAllien one of the continually highest pushing factors towards ongoing inflation is grocery prices - it was determined a couple years ago by several economist studies it was based on high transportation costs and scarcity with the pandemic and the wars but at this point the fact they haven't adjusted it is just greed even though they've lowered. You want Kamala to sue the grocers? Good luck withstanding SCOTUS You don't have to talk to me about INFLATION of all things. I'm from ARGENTINA. We have tried every recipe in the book to fix inflation and nothing has really worked until now. You fix inflation by being fiscally responsible. But it is VERY upsetting when a politician announces something as the CURE FOR INFLATION, and it ends up doing nothing. It's happened here in Argentina many, many times. And those politicians are despised by everyone. I imagine people in the US probably felt that way when the Biden administration, with Harris as the spokesperson many times, announced that this or that would end inflation, and it took years for that to happen. 1
Communion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NausAllien said: But it is VERY upsetting when a politician announces something as the CURE FOR INFLATION, and it ends up doing nothing Sp you agree Pres. Harris' first agenda item is price controls on food items to combat corporate greed, yes? Edited July 22 by Communion 1 2 1
Bloodflowers. Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said: A Harris/Williamson ticket is looking more and more likely. It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it! You better ceeeeeeeelebrate Cause baby Marianne ain't going away ohhhh 1
NausAllien Posted July 22 Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Communion said: Sp you agree Pres. Harris' first agenda item is price controls on food items to combat corporate greed, yes? Do you understand that I'm from Argentina where THIS HAS BEEN TRIED TIME AND TIME AGAIN and it's NEVER EVER WORKED!? HOW IT STARTED HOW IT WAS GOING 1
Communion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, Communion said: Sp you agree Pres. Harris' first agenda item is price controls on food items to combat corporate greed, yes? @NausAllien A downvote? So you're actually supportive of Biden and Trump's records that have seen needless subsidies gone to corporations who have left the average consumer carrying the bill with prices artificially inflated or in Trump's case emboldened these corporations to price gouge even more? Odd to see someone champion the economic needs of the American working class yet seemingly cosign the Biden-Trump agenda of not bringing corporations to yield. Sounds like we need someone who knows how to prosecute a case and bring criminal corporate greed to heel under the power of big government law. 2 1
Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Just now, NausAllien said: Do you understand that I'm from Argentina where THIS HAS BEEN TRIED TIME AND TIME AGAIN and it's NEVER EVER WORKED!? HOW IT STARTED HOW IT WAS GOING You completely missed his point I'd ask for your solutions within the U.S you apparently know so much about on food price inflation but I'd get nowhere productive so I'll just let you two continue and get back to my news posts. 1
NausAllien Posted July 22 Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, Communion said: @NausAllien A downvote? So you're actually supportive of Biden and Trump's records that have seen needless subsidies gone to corporations who have left the average consumer carrying the bill with prices artificially inflated or in Trump's case emboldened these corporations to price gouge even more? What is this FALSE DICHOTOMY of "corporate welfare" or stupid price controls??? PS: I strongly recommend that you read a book on Basic Economics. 1
Communion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NausAllien said: Do you understand that I'm from Argentina And I'm from my mother's ******? What am I meant to take away from this statement besides your country being a failed state with a libertarian running it and you seemingly not understanding the way the American economy works? Maybe places like Argentina suffer under genuine supply side constraints. Are you under the impression America does? There are no supply side restrictions within the American economic model. America is an economy of abundance. To a fault. We literally import fruit from countries like yours and others to have whatever the American consumer wants available 24/7 while then shipping fruit grown here abroad. The average American corporation is racking in record profits even when advancements in technology sees costs continue to plummet. It makes no sense. You claim to criticize Biden's record yet are seemingly unaware of it being a largely right wing record overlapping with Trump's. It's true Kamala must win over voters. It's also clear that the way to do that is rejecting the Biden-Trump agenda of antiquated conservative politics and finally offer Americans a progressive choice. Edited July 22 by Communion 5 1 1
Virgos Groove Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) It's always the upper-middle class whites from Latin America... Edited July 22 by Virgos Groove 2 1
Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: It's always the upper-middle class whites from Latin America... I sensed a running theme from that soccer racism thread in Celebria….but whatever, nevermind I'm getting sidetracked. 1
Communion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, NausAllien said: What is this FALSE DICHOTOMY of "corporate welfare" or stupid price controls??? PS: I strongly recommend that you read a book on Basic Economics. So you're unaware that Biden's immigration policies restricted migration just like Trump and thus made processing at the border worse. And are unaware that Biden's policies did little to address corporate greed. But also you're adamant that Biden's policies are bad and Kamala must pivot away from them. Away from them and towards what? What do you want her to pivot to if you're seemingly uninformed on what she should be pivoting away from? Edited July 22 by Communion 1 2 1
Virgos Groove Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) @Communion @Vermillion Ready to play Upper-Middle Class Whites from Latin America bingo? "It's the leftists fault!" ✅ "The poors don't know what's good for them." "Things were better when most of the population couldn't vote." "America needs to intervene." "Our maids loved us!" "We had to escape with nothing but our clothes (and the Rolls Royce in the shipping boat)." "Right-wing dictatorship was a good thing actually." "Why couldn't England have colonized us? :(" "Those leftist thugs nationalized natural resources. DICTATORSHIP!!11!" 1 down, 8 to go. Edited July 22 by Virgos Groove 1 1 5 1
Blade Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Black sistren, how do you feel about the discourse regarding Trump giving stimulus checks so therefore Black voters should (and some are) voting for him? I think ads running showing that Trump was reluctant about the stimulus and Kamala's vote helped secure the check would be great.
Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Kamala coming for that 270-268 EC win Oh god not this again The sad part is it's likely the best she can hope for Before you were just delusional
Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Blade said: Black sistren, how do you feel about the discourse regarding Trump giving stimulus checks so therefore Black voters should (and some are) voting for him? I think ads running showing that Trump was reluctant about the stimulus and Kamala's vote helped secure the check would be great. I'm not black, and this is a fragile conversation, but based on the current culture wars on steroids and crack, white moderates are already going to be primed to expect and be wary of Kamala giving to "welfare queens" and all of the associated stereotypes many of which now have manifested as DEI, CRT etc. I…if she takes this route in a television ad that lacks nuance as a medium it's really risky.
GraceRandolph Posted July 22 Posted July 22 The cynical side of me is thinking the Dems put up Kamala as a sacrificial lamb because they know if she loses they can blame racism/sexism and won't have to deal with a reckoning from their voters and dropping the ball by letting Biden seek a second term initially.
Kylizzle Posted July 22 Posted July 22 8 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Kamala coming for that 270-268 EC win Harris / Shapiro* are coming.
Sannie Posted July 22 Posted July 22 12 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Kamala coming for that 270-268 EC win Altho I want her to have some buffer room, how satisfyingly hilarious would this be? Right wingers and Trump would be frothing at the mouth for losing such a close race. Everything is going so well... she better not **** it up with a bad VP choice.
Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: The cynical side of me is thinking the Dems put up Kamala as a sacrificial lamb because they know if she loses they can blame racism/sexism and won't have to deal with a reckoning from their voters and dropping the ball by letting Biden seek a second term initially. Sidebar, but what HAS been confirmed off the record from Biden staffers and loyalists as to why she was saddled with an impossible issue portfolio is as a form of cloaked revenge for her debate comments and as an ID politics wash if it failed. What needs to be unearthed in the coming years is the breakdown and acceptance of Biden's turn from his original promise of one-term only, for which the excuses he provided as to why still haven't been sufficient, and continually rambling. 1
Virgos Groove Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) Reading this gives me hope, the WINNERS are in control. Edited July 22 by Virgos Groove
Vermillion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 13 minutes ago, Kylizzle said: Harris / Shapiro* are coming. If they want to cut their losses on the Gaza issue with the base (and young voters) and assume (incorrectly) it's built-in that voters on that topic weren't going to vote for her no matter who she picked, fine, it's the Zionist Shapiro. But if they want more nuance (and risk re: being less telegenic and avoiding the Blue Wall strategy) on this issue and try the play for a larger rural worker argument against fraudulent Vance as has been mentioned they go with Beshear, who just as likely has the same position but bothers to finesse. Both are high risk, high reward. If they want to avoid those pitfalls for the most part, they go with a national ID strategy and Mark Kelly, which doesn't make sense at this point other than PR and Trump's idea of a casting call. Then there's Roy Cooper, who is struggling against his legislature and clearly sees this as a lifeline and I suppose means well but would do nothing, respectfully, for this ticket. On any issue. 1
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