Sannie Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Communion said: Genuine brain rot. You were wrong when dismissing the importance Arab Michigan voters voting uncommitted. You were wrong when dismissing the importance of progressive voters being demoralized and disengaged. You were wrong when dismissing concerns of Biden being mentally fit enough to stay in the race. It's borderline trolling. I wasn't wrong about any of this. Biden didn't lose the nomination and didn't drop out because of the first two points. He dropped out because he bombed the debate. And when I saw how badly he bombed, I decided he had to go. I was able to accept that he couldn't continue with his current cognitive state because, unlike some, I can admit when I'm wrong when presented with evidence. Trolling is pretending like you care about people but then fight to help Trump win so he can kill millions of people in this country. I stand by what I've always thought: you leftists aren't as important as you think you are because you don't vote and you have never voted. Harris/Shapiro will win all of the regularly blue states with ease. All they have to worry about is PA, MI, and WI. I will admit, MI could be a struggle due to the Arab population, but if that electorate is willing to sit out even after getting rid of Biden, they will reap what they've sewn. 1 minute ago, FameFatale said: Apparently Elon is showing out. People are having issues following the Kamala HQ account tonight. I see another person on my feed say they're getting the same notice trying to follow that account. This could honestly just be because so many people are trying to follow and it's overloading the server for that page. It happens with software all the time, especially considering it's a site Elon runs lol. But I wouldn't put it past him. Edited July 22 by Sannie 1 3
Communion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Sannie said: I wasn't wrong about any of this. On 6/17/2024 at 10:31 AM, Sannie said: At the end of the day, age is not and has never been a factor for voters lol. They will say it is a problem for them and then vote accordingly anyways. Do you guys remember that Biden was also old in 2020 lol? People are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill in terms of this age thing (mainly leftists and MAGA (same thing) ? 1 7
Mr. Mendes Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, americanlife said: I'm really curious to see if Kamala will be able to keep this sudden "momentum" going. I've seen positive reactions only on social media so far, nothing in real life. She's always been unpopular even amongst Dems. Why the sudden change? The real answer is the change hasn't been all that sudden. For the last year, she's been on a slow and steady image strengthening run. It is not an accident that her presence on social media has increased, that she's leaned into it, that she's been out speaking more this year than she traditionally has, and it was especially not an accident that she was out after the debate doing damage control. It is highly unlikely that all of this has been a recent development. I can promise you there's been planning and suggestions of this exact scenario for months, and Kamala has been prepping for it for awhile. I also do genuinely feel that the extent of her unpopularity was a bit over exaggerated given the circumstances of the 2020 election. That isn't to say she was secretly very popular, it's to say that that race was decided right from the word go, and there was a very successful run from her opponents to highlight things from her past that are highly questionable. There's a reason those conversations stopped when she got the VP nomination. No, she's never been super popular, but that was also by design during the primaries. People have been warming to her all year. This is the capitalization on all of that. 1
Mr. Mendes Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Also just gotta say I cannot believe we've still got people trying to ride for Marianne this far in. It's not going to happen. It never was. It never will. It's time to let it go. 1 4
Blade Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Gosh I have so many thoughts, this is gonna be a longer post Before I continue I want to say that Trump, until proven otherwise, is still the favorite. Also, Republican's have an electoral college advantage. So what I'm about to say next is only to instill hope, not call the election for Kamala a slam dunk. The Trump campaign really ****** up in several ways. Starting with accepting the debate that led to Biden exiting to making their main attacks about how Biden is weak, old, and unfit to lead. Their attacks have to be completely overhauled minus the border stuff. Now an issue that voters DO care about, the president being too old, is fully aimed at Trump and only Trump. Picking JD Vance is even more of a bad choice now that Harris is at the top of the ticket and not Biden. Trump dropping Vance and picking Bergum or Rubio last minute would be like the 4th most surprising thing to happen during this election cycle so far, so I can see it being possible but not really plausible. Right now, with the campaign on track to raise over $70 million within the first 24 hours of Harris' candidacy, it's really hard not to see the positives. We have enthusiasm, unity, and most important a nominee that can drive the message home for voters. Kamala needs to focus on policy comparisons and results from the Biden admin's legislation. Show the manufacturing jobs boost in most midwest and souther states. Show the loan forgiveness impact and tease that there's more where they came from. Show the people who benefitted from capping insulin costs. Don't just talk about it, flaunt it. And most importantly, if Trump bows out of any debates, paint him as WEAK and SCARED. 7
GraceRandolph Posted July 22 Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said: Also just gotta say I cannot believe we've still got people trying to ride for Marianne this far in. It's not going to happen. It never was. It never will. It's time to let it go. It's still in the realm of possibility.
Harrier Posted July 22 Posted July 22 The momentum online is crazy for Kamala, this is the honeymoon phase I was yapping about a few weeks ago that always happens when an unpopular leader is replaced. Even if it's not 'democratically'. It's not a mirage, either. It will be matched by a number of good polls for Kamala that will come out in the next few weeks. But we need every bit of this momentum to continue all the way until November, or she will lose. I agree with @Blade that Trump is still the favorite, between the billionaire money, the EC advantage and the favorable media environment post-assassination attempt. And then there is the fact that Kamala isn't the strongest candidate ever and has weaknesses as a communicator. I just desperately hope the enthusiasim with young voters can be sustained, and I hope that activist/leftist voices use the opportunity to push the campaign left but WITHOUT increasing the probability of Trump winning. None of this third party, alternate candidate ****. You got this win - take it, use it: I don't want to see yapping about why not voting is the moral choice when it CLEARLY is not. 8
Communion Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) What it's like having people who were screaming for the last 6 months that Biden slurring his way through defending genocide was not an issue and he will never be replaced by scheming leftists suddenly deciding the momentum behind Kamala has been their plan all along and all the same mistakes of Biden should be kept in place and she should go out of her way to purposefully alienate, disenfranchise and actively antagonize the same voting groups who left Biden defenseless and soiled on stage with Trump: Being unburdened by the failed neoliberalism that has been. (The gloating comes with being coconut-pilled. To exist in the context of all that you exist means remembering when you were right) (OMG at how in-tune this gif plays to "Joyride") Edited July 22 by Communion 8
That Bad Eartha Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: It's still in the realm of possibility. It isn't. You're living in some sort of either troll based fantasy or genuine delusion. Marianne has been (whether fairly or unfairly) reduced to at best an unimportant nuisance in the eyes of the democratic establishment/the media/the average voter. No possible scenario at the convention ends with her having the support of the majority of the delegates and even if some deity intervened and gave her the primary, she isn't winning a general. She's still welcome to make her case at the convention and make the case for her causes, but you can't expect anything to come from it. What is happening today isn't a coronation, what you are seeing is elected officials/the party apparatus/voters/donors largely agreeing that we just need to make a quick decision and move forward with an election against Trump. There is not enough time to gamble on more infighting, especially considering none of the actually viable alternatives to Kamala want to risk it right now by entering the ring. 2 6
GraceRandolph Posted July 22 Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, That Bad Eartha said: It isn't. You're living in some sort of either troll based fantasy or genuine delusion. Marianne has been (whether fairly or unfairly) reduced to at best an unimportant nuisance in the eyes of the democratic establishment/the media/the average voter. No possible scenario at the convention ends with her having the support of the majority of the delegates and even if some deity intervened and gave her the primary, she isn't winning a general. She's still welcome to make her case at the convention and make the case for her causes, but you can't expect anything to come from it. What is happening today isn't a coronation, what you are seeing is elected officials/the party apparatus/voters/donors largely agreeing that we just need to make a quick decision and move forward with an election against Trump. There is not enough time to gamble on more infighting, especially considering none of the actually viable alternatives to Kamala want to risk it right now by entering the ring. Let's wait and see. Marianne could maybe over perform at the convention and be selected as Kamala's VP. Her debating Vance would be a definitive moment in American history.
NausAllien Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Let's wait and see. Marianne could maybe over perform at the convention and be selected as Kamala's VP. Her debating Vance would be a definitive moment in American history. What would Kamala pick Marianne as VP? Kamala needs someone who can appeal to Rust Belt voters, and I don't see Marianne fairing well in Middle America. She's too far left for them.
GraceRandolph Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: What would Kamala pick Marianne as VP? Kamala needs someone who can appeal to Rust Belt voters, and I don't see Marianne fairing well in Middle America. She's too far left for them. Marianne's Jesus talk could attract them. Trump Bibles you are BONES
GhostBox Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) Not Kamala getting free campaign help from the Trump team 🎉 Edited July 22 by GhostBox 3
Blade Runner Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) Hopefully this won't be another Hillary situation. Praying for y'all. PS. I pray that this campaing won't lean too much into the Charli XCX memes. It's too Twitter and she's a nobody outside of that dead platform. Get Taylor instead. Edited July 22 by Blade Runner 1
EnigmaticAndroid Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Blade said: in case you haven't donated: https://secure.actblue.com Donated $10 1
eyeroll Posted July 22 Posted July 22 6 hours ago, midnightdawn said: First election since 1976 not to have a Biden, Bush or Clinton on the ticket. Okay tea, I didn't even realize that. I'm supportive of this whole move in general, but ending that 50-year streak is especially satisfying.
ShadeIena Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Why don't you guys ever consider voting for a third party? Libertarians for example 1 10
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