wastedpotential Posted July 21 Posted July 21 17 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: The easy solution to the Harris issue is selecting another nominee and keeping her on ticket as VP.Β please give it up deelishis 3
Blade Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Harris needs to keep the populist message Biden was trying to give in the last 2 weeks of his dying campaign.
Vermillion Posted July 21 Posted July 21 There's three pages worth of discussion to unpack with this angle and I might as well get the ball rolling Β Β @Blade@ClashAndBurn@Communion Β Β
Mike91 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) I hate to say it but as for the Hillary comparisons... Kamala is a lot more likable. Alright? Edited July 21 by Mike91 1
Sannie Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Just now, Blade said: Harris needs to keep the populist message Biden was trying to give in the last 2 weeks of his dying campaign. That's what's so good about this: she doesn't have to change much. Joe Biden had a winning message, he just couldn't push it without the media harping on stupid ****. She can get it across much more efficiently.Β
James_Dean Posted July 21 Posted July 21 19 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Β I donated for the first time todayΒ 1
cloudbusting Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Thickorita said: Tuned into Fox News for the giggles and they are melting downΒ Β The Republicans really wanted Biden. he was an easy win for them - now they can't just waltz to a total decimationΒ
Kitty Kat Posted July 21 Posted July 21 It's the way that 2008 saw Joe Biden withdraw before the first primary, then get picked as VP, before coming President... and now we have Kamala Harris who didn't make the first primary in 2020, was chosen as VP, and now is almost certainly at the top of the ticket.
shelven Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Β This is my sense as well. I don't think his intention was to slight her or to signal that he doesn't think she's the best candidate. I think he's aware of the "coronation" criticisms and wants to do what he can to make this seem like a natural and fair process, while knowing that the process will almost certainly end with Harris being the nominee. 1 2
Sannie Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Mike91 said: I hate to say it but as for the Hillary comparisons... Kamala is a lot more likable. Alright? Y'all gotta let this go. HRC was likable. She won the popular vote. She did not lose because of likability, she lost because she got cocky and refused to visit the rust belt states near the end. People in those states want one thing: to be paid attention to. It's so easy to get them on your side when you just pay attention to them.Β Β (I guess you could argue that her cockiness made her unlikeable dddddd but you get what I'm saying). 3 1
TaggedGalaxy Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Blade said: Β And Daddy Josh Shapiro has my full throated endorsement for VP
Mike91 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Blade said: Β Party HAS to unite around her. Doesn't matter what side you're on. There's no time for division.Β
GraceRandolph Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Sannie said: Y'all gotta let this go. HRC was likable. She won the popular vote. She did not lose because of likability, she lost because she got cocky and refused to visit the rust belt states near the end. People in those states want one thing: to be paid attention to. It's so easy to get them on your side when you just pay attention to them.Β Β (I guess you could argue that her cockiness made her unlikeable dddddd but you get what I'm saying). She lost states that Obama won. She lost. Give it up.Β 1
wastedpotential Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, shelven said: This is my sense as well. I don't think his intention was to slight her or to signal that he doesn't think she's the best candidate. I think he's aware of the "coronation" criticisms and wants to do what he can to make this seem like a natural and fair process, while knowing that the process will almost certainly end with Harris being the nominee. It's not as if Obama has any reason toΒ notΒ support Harris, and it doesn't seem like he has someone else handpicked. He's playing this wise, but I'm sure he'll throw his support behind her after a few days and things have shaken out (assuming there aren't credible opponents) 1
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted July 21 ATRL Moderator Posted July 21 Kamala will most likely have all major endorsements secured by the end of the week. Anyone trying to challenge her will just be wasting their time imo.Β 4 1
GraceRandolph Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Just now, Mike91 said: Party HAS to unite around her. Doesn't matter what side you're on. There's no time for division.Β We don't have to unite until after the conventionΒ 2
Mike91 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Sannie said: Y'all gotta let this go. HRC was likable. She won the popular vote. She did not lose because of likability, she lost because she got cocky and refused to visit the rust belt states near the end. People in those states want one thing: to be paid attention to. It's so easy to get them on your side when you just pay attention to them.Β Β (I guess you could argue that her cockiness made her unlikeable dddddd but you get what I'm saying). There were a lot of factors that cost her the election, but let's not pretend she wasn't one of the most disliked candidates in history at the time, along with Trump.Β Β 3
GraceRandolph Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) 1 minute ago, Azulito said: Kamala will most likely have all major endorsements secured by the end of the week. Anyone trying to challenge her will just be wasting their time imo.Β Endorsements don't decide, delegates do Edited July 21 by GraceRandolph
justin. Posted July 21 Posted July 21 It's hard to believe how wild the race has been in less than 6 months (a former president convicted of 30+ felonies, an assassination attempt, a sitting president and nominee dropping out 100 days out from an election, etc.). I need a Wolf Spritzer! 6
NausAllien Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Sannie said: Y'all gotta let this go. HRC was likable. She won the popular vote. She did not lose because of likability, she lost because she got cocky and refused to visit the rust belt states near the end. People in those states want one thing: to be paid attention to. It's so easy to get them on your side when you just pay attention to them.Β Β (I guess you could argue that her cockiness made her unlikeable dddddd but you get what I'm saying). Hillary was NOT likable at all. She wasn't even likable two years later! Β Heck, she wasn't even likable back in the 90s. Bill was the one having affairs left and right, but SHE was the one that was disliked the most. Β
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