GhostBox Posted July 8 Posted July 8 27 minutes ago, Blade said: Statement from Sen. Heinrich (D-NM) sounds like he's ready to jump ship if Biden doesn't turn the narrative around soon. Another weak statement 💀 same from Sherrod brown. they are too scared to take either side so they pump out these middle of the road statements
shelven Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Blade said: This is what Blue MAGA seems to have such a hard time understanding. People are begging Biden to drop out because we want the best chance of defeating Trump. It's the exact opposite of helping Trump or secretly batting for the Republicans - our entire concern is that evidence overwhelmingly suggests that Biden very likely cannot win this race and that him staying in is what's doing Republicans/Trump a huge favour That's what annoys me so much every time a Blue MAGA person on Twitter treats this like some sort of team game where the prize is the bragging rights or moral superiority of getting to say you supported Biden staying on the ticket. Like… okay, have fun losing the election to Trump then?? They're so focused on "winning" this little game that they've stopped caring about whether or not they win the actual election 4
Eat The Acid Posted July 8 Posted July 8 4 minutes ago, Blade said: Womp womp womp! Too much damage done. Kamala needs to have her coconut moment. 1
GhostBox Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blade said: Good article. If the dam doesn't break tomorrow then I'll consider replacing Biden a lost cause Welp Edited July 8 by GhostBox 1
Armani? Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, nadiamendell said: Trump doesn't need to campaign. All he has to do is watch quietly from the sidelines while Biden tears his campaign apart. It's literally a reverse 2020, as someone else mentioned. His biggest issue is Project 2025 gaining traction in the public conscious, depends on the areas it circulates 1
GhostBox Posted July 8 Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: His biggest issue is Project 2025 gaining traction in the public conscious, depends on the areas it circulates I've seen so many posts of my Facebook about it from people I never see post political stuff 💀 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 With Jeffries giving him support, it's Joever. Trump has the easiest opponent to be that he could ask for. We're cooked
Blade Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Someone part of Biden's inner circle just needs to take one for the team and confirm that he wears a diaper. We'd get Kamala within 48 hours. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Manchin is the second-dumbest politician in Washington (only behind Biden himself ) The only reason he's not taking the Marie Perez and Jared Golden route is he's not running for re-election. Delusional to think the corpse even still has a chance.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Just now, Blade said: Someone part of Biden's inner circle just needs to take one for the team and confirm that he wears a diaper. We'd get Kamala within 48 hours. Not really an effective drag since they both probably **** themselves in public/ in front of the late Queen Elizabeth
Blade Posted July 8 Posted July 8 6 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Not really an effective drag since they both probably **** themselves in public/ in front of the late Queen Elizabeth What what? Explain
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 "The voters' wishes" as though there were an actual primary process to begin with. The Democrats are actually a joke. Blue MAGA has wrecked the entire party's credibility 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Just now, Blade said: What what? Explain There were (unconfirmed) rumors that Biden soiled himself in front of the Queen during his UK visit. Could have been malicious and made up, but it's honestly very believable given his advanced age. As for Trump… I mean, with his dumptruck ass, I would be more surprised if he wasn't. There was also some audio feedback during the debate that indicated he might have sharted while he was talking, but… 1
midnightdawn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: "The voters' wishes" as though there were an actual primary process to begin with. The Democrats are actually a joke. Blue MAGA has wrecked the entire party's credibility It's ironic they'll go on about "saving democracy" from Trump while at the same time telling people to sit down, be quiet and not express their views. "Be helpful and back him instead of creating uncertainty and division" sounds like language you'd hear in an authoritarian country when anyone who doesn't agree with the government is accused of trying to be disruptive. 5
shelven Posted July 8 Posted July 8 I prefer to avoid going down the "the primary was fixed / there was no actual primary" path because I don't think hyperboles are productive in these situations. There was a primary, Biden won it with legitimately cast votes, and it was technically open to whoever wanted to run against him. Actively denying that just gives fuel to Blue MAGA. The real problem with the "Biden won the primary so going against him would be overturning the will of the voters" argument is that the primary was framed in a way that means it's not an accurate reflection of the full voting base's intentions. When the overriding message in the primary from both the media and the DNC itself was that it wasn't meaningful because we were just going through the motions to nominate the incumbent, that obviously massively depresses turnout. If the primary had been framed as a truly robust primary where Biden should be subjected to legitimate challenge, the turnout of the races would have been radically different. And Biden still could have won! Knowing the Dem primary voting base, I'd even go so far as to say it's more likely than not that he would have won even if faced with meaningful challengers and a media and DNC that treated the primary meaningfully. But the point is that we just can't know for sure how that version of the primary would have gone, so definitively stating that the primary that did happen is an ironclad reflection of the will of the people is misleading. The other issue with the "will of the voters" argument is that... the voters DID vote for the possibility of Harris having to take over. Voters do that every time they vote for a ticket that includes a presidential candidate and a vice presidential candidate - inherent in the system is the recognition that the vice president is there to take over for the president if the president is no longer able or willing to serve. You can make the argument that a coup attempt by the delegates at the convention itself would be subverting votes, and even that running a second open primary would be subverting votes, but it's asinine to claim that merely asking a presidential candidate who is perceived to be unfit for office to drop out in favour of the vice president candidate that the primary voters agreed should be the back-up in that scenario is "subverting the will of the people." And then on top of all this, there's the whole can of worms of whether the primary can be said to reflect the will of the voters when said voters were basing their decisions on incomplete information that the Biden campaign/administration was intentionally hiding. A lot of the information about just how bad Biden's current condition is only starting coming out long after the primary was basically wrapped out. Withholding crucial information for a vote and then claiming that vote represents the honest and informed choice of the voters is incredibly shady. 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 This seems word-for-word like what all the week Democrats have said 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 8 Posted July 8 November is a wrap, yall. Congrats to our future 47th President I guess… 1
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