GhostBox Posted July 6 Posted July 6 2 minutes ago, Communion said: For those who want to keep track, this guy is linking to every national politician's reactions on what Biden should do: Preview of how he categorizes everything thus far: So most (as of now) are supporting or leaving it up to him.
Communion Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Just now, GhostBox said: So most (as of now) are supporting or leaving it up to him. If you're bad at math, sure. 1
Vroom Vroom Posted July 6 Posted July 6 7 minutes ago, Capris Groove said: I think a lot of people are missing the point that there are millions of others who see a feeble old fool when they see Biden and are willing to hold their nose to vote for someone who gaslights them into thinking he created the 'best economy the U.S has ever seen'. I don't agree that if he were to step down that it'd be a mess. I think it would create a groundswell of excitement among the base if he passed it on to Harris - who could create an enormous buzz with her own running mate. Imagine the press if this were to happen. Trump NEEDS Biden, folks. Without him, the Dems are better able to expose him for the tyrant he's aiming to be without all the focus being on Biden's age and mental capabilities. This random Kamala hype is so confusing. She has had a worse approval rating than Biden for 3 years straight and was constantly dragged in this thread This tweet really encapsulates it: 1
Relampago. Posted July 6 Posted July 6 11 minutes ago, Capris Groove said: I think a lot of people are missing the point that there are millions of others who see a feeble old fool when they see Biden and are willing to hold their nose to vote for someone who gaslights them into thinking he created the 'best economy the U.S has ever seen'. I don't agree that if he were to step down that it'd be a mess. I think it would create a groundswell of excitement among the base if he passed it on to Harris - who could create an enormous buzz with her own running mate. Imagine the press if this were to happen. Trump NEEDS Biden, folks. Without him, the Dems are better able to expose him for the tyrant he's aiming to be without all the focus being on Biden's age and mental capabilities. MTE. Kopmala is a horrible candidate in most scenarios (her awful morals and campaigning aside), but the way Dems would feel invigorated just by the prospect of not having to vote for a clearly decrepit, rotting, old man cannot go unnoticed. I really hope they push for her to take the nomination. Her politics are awful and she's unpopular, but she really seems like the only viable option. Biden's done, that is more than clear at this point. Newsom/Whitmer/Beshear don't have the name recognition or the time to gather funds. Kamala is the only way forward for the dems to even have a chance to win. And to be honest, if she actually prepares properly, I can see her demolishing Trump in a debate and setting him off which would be great. But I feel like they really are just going to keep Biden in. Horrible.
19SLAYty9 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 7 minutes ago, Communion said: If you're bad at math, sure. I screamed. You're so funny HAHAHAH
GhostBox Posted July 6 Posted July 6 6 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: This random Kamala hype is so confusing. She has had a worse approval rating than Biden for 3 years straight and was constantly dragged in this thread This tweet really encapsulates it: The same ones in here cheering for her to take his place will be the first ones to say they won't vote for her when she's taking Biden's stance on any issue 😂
GhostBox Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Communion said: If you're bad at math, sure. I'm not including "think about" pick a side. just like the "it doesn't matter" ones 😂 put your neck on the line or don't. 🤷 Edited July 6 by GhostBox 1
Redstreak Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Once again the hype isn't fundamentally about Kamala, it's about the idea the democrats would finally do something bold and match their apocalyptic rhetoric for the first time in god knows how long. That they're actually willing to fight and not just roll over 2
Eat The Acid Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) The interview was a mess He didn't take control, he didn't know if he watched the debate, answered several times that he just had a bad night, refuses to take any public testing to reassure the electorate, mentioned that the president elected this year is "he/she", started listing accomplishments that can't be associated single handedly to his presidency, and declined to answer if he felt his physical and mental well being was on par with 3.5 years ago. He also verbally reminded himself not to leak confidential information that may impact national security. He confirmed he would prefer to hand the presidency to Trump than drop out Though not the trainwreck of the debate - for me, solidifies that he's over. Edited July 6 by Eat The Acid 2
YellowRibbon Posted July 6 Posted July 6 I don't think Kamala would win but at least we could treasure the reaction videos in the future Gilead 1
bunnyeyes Posted July 6 Posted July 6 The problem is because of his age Biden being hard and confident just comes off as a stubborn grandpa trope
cloudbusting Posted July 6 Posted July 6 at this rate I'm not even sure if Biden will make it to November, nominee or not 1
GhostBox Posted July 6 Posted July 6 2 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: at this rate I'm not even sure if Biden will make it to November, nominee or not He's pretty healthy for a 81 year old though so I wouldnt put money on that 1
Vroom Vroom Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Once again the hype isn't fundamentally about Kamala, it's about the idea the democrats would finally do something bold and match their apocalyptic rhetoric for the first time in god knows how long. That they're actually willing to fight and not just roll over Dropping out and coronating your vp is not bold The way forward is through bold governance. Biden should be packing the courts right now and signing executive orders to combat Trump. Instead he is just screaming that he won't back down. It is unbelievable that Biden said nothing about project 25 in that interview Biden's current rhetoric is weak and swapping Kamala or another random dem in is also weak. Edited July 6 by Vroom Vroom 1
Eat The Acid Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: He's pretty healthy for a 81 year old though so I wouldnt put money on that Most 81 year olds I know can talk in clear, coherent sentences though? They also don't walk like their joints are glued together.
cloudbusting Posted July 6 Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, GhostBox said: He's pretty healthy for a 81 year old though so I wouldnt put money on that he acts like he's having to remind himself to inhale and exhale, let's not 3
Redstreak Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Vroom Vroom said: Dropping out and coronating your vp is not bold The way forward is through bold governance. Biden should be packing the courts right now and signing executive orders to combat Trump. Instead he is just screaming that he won't back down. It is unbelievable that Biden said nothing about project 25 in that interview Biden's current rhetoric is weak and swapping Kamala or another random dem in is also weak. This doesn't even make sense as an argument. Biden has already said he won't pack the courts, swap him out with something me who's more amenable to it
Communion Posted July 6 Posted July 6 8 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: This random Kamala hype is so confusing. She has had a worse approval rating than Biden for 3 years straight and was constantly dragged in this thread I think it's two things. Kamala left the primary in 2020 so early on that, despite lots of criticism Bernie supporters may have had of her then, there was no actual instances I can easily remember of her attacking Sanders directly, especially when her original aim was to be seen as the progressive choice. KHive were deranged but that's separate from her. In fact, I think the entire Tulsi fight happened because Kamala knew she needed Biden's older black voters and thus went after him for his conservative, pro-policing past and its harm on black Americans, and Tulsi of all people defended Biden. So I imagine a lot of the ****-posting is coming from a lack of resentment on the left's part that would exist, if say, Buttigieg was Biden's VP, to where I don't think we'd be having this same conversation of people ****-posting Because of what forcing Biden to drop out would mean re: reflections on his tenure, I think leftists are willing to go with whatever root is likely to achieve that result (and how unprecedented it'd be); because, while Kamala does have lots to hold her to the fire for like Yasha summarizes below, I imagine there's some hope amongst the leftist ****-posting that she would feel compelled to campaign to the left of Biden as opposed to continue his tarnished legacy as a dying conservative. 1
Noah Posted July 6 Posted July 6 The interview was bad but I don't see him stepping down. His ego is too big and the fact that he's still able to read from a teleprompter is enough for his team to wheel him around for the next four months.
teresaguidice Posted July 6 Posted July 6 biden's voice is so slurred that its hard to understand what he's saying some of the time. he trails off and has a deer-in-headlights look of panic on his face whenever not forcing a smile. it doesn't matter what he says now, his appearance and demeanor further cement the issue just by him existing. i think what the biden defenders don't understand is that by democrats telling the public that biden is fine and to just ignore what they are seeing, the middle ground unengaged voter who is relatively spooked by jan 6 or abortion or whatever then sees both parties as ruthless gaslighters who will say anything to win and won't admit the obvious truth even gun to their head. it equivocates democrats and republicans into one corrupt blob and makes the character attack on trump fall completely flat which will no doubt lead on-the-margin voters to just not show up. the attacks on hillary as corrupt and out only for her own ambition worked insanely well to suppress turnout (because they were mostly true ) even from an even more blatantly corrupt messenger. same situation here, but 10x worse. 6
Eat The Acid Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: 😂 She's not her father though? Wasn't your whole case with Hunter - that Biden wasn't liable just because he's his son. So what even is this post from you? Exact proof of what I was saying earlier that you can only think in black and white. There's no depth or critical thinking from you. Just blatant hypocritical t!t for tat rhetoric. It's toxic Edited July 6 by Eat The Acid 4
Communion Posted July 6 Posted July 6 5 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: Dropping out and coronating your vp is not bold The way forward is through bold governance. Biden should be packing the courts right now and signing executive orders to combat Trump. Instead he is just screaming that he won't back down. It is unbelievable that Biden said nothing about project 25 in that interview Biden's current rhetoric is weak and swapping Kamala or another random dem in is also weak. Sis, the time for this was like 8 months ago. He refused this and we had centrist Dems defend this very action. When he should have pushed progressive policy, he doubled-down on horrors by denying Palestinian death tolls and arguing Palestinian children are subhuman. This bet of not needing an activist base is what he went into the debate with, only to basically die on stage, frightening normie voters. He's so far gone that no policy change is going to change how normies view him and activists hate him for sticking the knife in.... let alone how vindicated leftists now feel that the Butcher of Gaza is also the Wizard of Oz aka just a haggard old man with dementia behind the curtain the entire time. Leftists had to watch videos of Palestinian children with their limbs blown to strands of meat on the claim that the man helping to do this was the only one who could beat Trump, just for the curtain to be pulled back and everyone to gasp in horror that the same man isn't even mentally cognizant enough to know if he's wetting his depends. 1
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