ClashAndBurn Posted July 5 Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: They are foaming at the mouth so hard to just to rip Harris apart as well they can't even hide it 😂 anyone who thinks Biden stepping away is gonna change anything are delusional Biden stepping away means we don't have an Alzheimer's-addled nominee, which is a massive leap ahead of where we are now. Is Kamala going to lose? 85% certain yes. But the downballot may yet be saved, whereas we are sacrificing every vulnerable seat in the House and Senate by keeping the husk. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 5 Posted July 5 13 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: Old cow needs to get over it and step dowm His team knows how badly he did in that interview, and they're still doubling down. Doesn't seem likely
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted July 5 Author ATRL Moderator Posted July 5 I think a lot of people (me included) have tuned out politics from the last election until recently and the contrast between how Biden was on the initial campaign trail even with its flaws is very apparent to how he looks and sounds now.
cloudbusting Posted July 5 Posted July 5 29 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Y'all… This is the preview clip Assuming this is the best minute from the entire thing, how bad are the other 14???? he should be at the club old folks' home the fact that a prerecorded softball interview couldn't edit out the death rattle and incoherent train of thought
Communion Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) 20 minutes ago, GhostBox said: They are foaming at the mouth so hard to just to rip Harris apart as well they can't even hide it 😂 anyone who thinks Biden stepping away is gonna change anything are delusional These kinds of tweets are nonsense and shows an ego that liberals don't understand just how badly they have failed and ****** up. Tweets like the below show that the average professional Biden supporter has lost all sense of reality and are maybe as bad as MAGA at their worst: "They're gonna go after Harris". Voters are gonna expect her to offer a vision and concise plan for what she wants to do as president, yes. Biden can't do that. His age and being seen as senile are so bad now that they eclipse any discussion of policy, vision, plans, etc. The discussion is no longer if Biden would be a good president - is if he is even mentally capable to be the president, if he will soon die, etc. Thus, Biden can no longer be the nominee. If he is the nominee, he is objectively going to lose. Period. There's no other discussion to it. He has failed. Kamala Harris will need to offer what she wants to do as president and unite the Democratic coalition. That's the job of a president. It's unfortunately a reality that Kamala has a higher chance of doing that than Biden who is simply not mentally or physically capable of doing that now at all. A mess centrists made by coddling him, enabling him, and letting the ghouls in DC let this embarrassment go on for far too long. Edited July 5 by Communion
GhostBox Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Biden stepping away means we don't have an Alzheimer's-addled nominee, which is a massive leap ahead of where we are now. Is Kamala going to lose? 85% certain yes. But the downballot may yet be saved, whereas we are sacrificing every vulnerable seat in the House and Senate by keeping the husk. I think Biden has a better chance than Harris to win the presidency. Which I think is very important. Sure the house and senate matter but having a dem in the White House is more important to me 🤷 Harris could run and lose and the Dems still lose the house and senate. Then the bills the gop will pass go straight to Trumps desk to be signed If biden won and has a gop congress he would veto them. That's important. Edited July 5 by GhostBox
ClashAndBurn Posted July 5 Posted July 5 13 minutes ago, khalyan said: I think a lot of people (me included) have tuned out politics from the last election until recently and the contrast between how Biden was on the initial campaign trail even with its flaws is very apparent to how he looks and sounds now. He was bad enough four years ago that I wouldn't have wanted him to be the nominee back then. Especially knowing that they'd be pushing him over the finish line again in four years' time when his decline would be markedly worse. They really are doing the Feinstein thing with him all over again…
Redstreak Posted July 6 Posted July 6 50 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Y'all… This is the preview clip Assuming this is the best minute from the entire thing, how bad are the other 14???? He looks ******* awful
bunnyeyes Posted July 6 Posted July 6 More congress people coming out against him and Biden claiming it was just a single congressman him saying he doesn't remember if he saw the debate or not
shelven Posted July 6 Posted July 6 If the full interview ends up being as bad as that one clip, I'm upping my odds of Biden dropping out from 70% to 80%. This is supposed to be the big moment that makes things better for him, and not only might it fail to do that, but it could make things actively worse I don't care how many times he tells a camera or has an intern tweet on his behalf that he's not dropping out. No leader who has dropped out or resigned has ever said "yeah I think I might!" before they do it. The pressure on him to step aside will start to become insurmountable.
Communion Posted July 6 Posted July 6 36 minutes ago, Communion said: These kinds of tweets are nonsense and shows an ego that liberals don't understand just how badly they have failed and ****** up. Tweets like the below show that the average professional Biden supporter has lost all sense of reality and are maybe as bad as MAGA at their worst: "They're gonna go after Harris". Voters are gonna expect her to offer a vision and concise plan for what she wants to do as president, yes. Biden can't do that. His age and being seen as senile are so bad now that they eclipse any discussion of policy, vision, plans, etc. The discussion is no longer if Biden would be a good president - is if he is even mentally capable to be the president, if he will soon die, etc. Thus, Biden can no longer be the nominee. If he is the nominee, he is objectively going to lose. Period. There's no other discussion to it. He has failed. Kamala Harris will need to offer what she wants to do as president and unite the Democratic coalition. That's the job of a president. It's unfortunately a reality that Kamala has a higher chance of doing that than Biden who is simply not mentally or physically capable of doing that now at all. A mess centrists made by coddling him, enabling him, and letting the ghouls in DC let this embarrassment go on for far too long. He's literally bleeding support from the very New Democrat centrists who started the 2020 primary endorsing him.
byzantium Posted July 6 Posted July 6 32 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I think Biden has a better chance than Harris to win the presidency. Which I think is very important. FYI - Just because you really really believe something does not mean it is true. 3 1
Eat The Acid Posted July 6 Posted July 6 32 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I think Biden has a better chance than Harris to win the presidency. Which I think is very important. Sure the house and senate matter but having a dem in the White House is more important to me 🤷 Harris could run and lose and the Dems still lose the house and senate. Then the bills the gop will pass go straight to Trumps desk to be signed If biden won and has a gop congress he would veto them. That's important. Biden will NOT win. There's a 3% swing in Minnesota for godsake. Stop being dense. Kamala has a high chance of losing but Biden's chance of losing is 100%. It's guaranteed. It's over. Nobody is leaving their homes to vote for him on election day. He inspires nobody. It's over. Done. 1
bunnyeyes Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Can we turn this interview into an ATRL drinking game to make the death of democracy less painful 3
Redstreak Posted July 6 Posted July 6 I'm predicting he'll announce his withdrawal by Friday, this did not help him
Eat The Acid Posted July 6 Posted July 6 So is the interview over yet? Someone post it here when it's online.
Capris Groove Posted July 6 Posted July 6 I think a lot of people are missing the point that there are millions of others who see a feeble old fool when they see Biden and are willing to hold their nose to vote for someone who gaslights them into thinking he created the 'best economy the U.S has ever seen'. I don't agree that if he were to step down that it'd be a mess. I think it would create a groundswell of excitement among the base if he passed it on to Harris - who could create an enormous buzz with her own running mate. Imagine the press if this were to happen. Trump NEEDS Biden, folks. Without him, the Dems are better able to expose him for the tyrant he's aiming to be without all the focus being on Biden's age and mental capabilities. 3
GhostBox Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) The entire interview has been better than that one clip still he needs to show toughness with his voice. It's the most notable thing in the debate and in this interview. it's like he needs a good cough drop 😂 maybe its his nerves Edited July 6 by GhostBox
Communion Posted July 6 Posted July 6 For those who want to keep track, this guy is linking to every national politician's reactions on what Biden should do: Preview of how he categorizes everything thus far: 1
karron0624 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Communion said: This isn't what happened and it's wild you still feel personally enraged that you at one point posted that poor people should be the same tax rate as rich people and no one agreed. Sanders had to convince voters of his policies and - shocker - most Dems AGREED with HIM. And he was set to win the primary until Obama literally got half the field to drop-out and both endorse Biden as the only electable candidate and attack Sanders. Let alone the irony that Sanders had a health scare in 2020 yet convinced voters it was fine in a way that Biden is seemingly incapable of doing now. Mess. Sis, i largely ignore you and you quoted me with a three paragraph essay saying i'm enraged, and you're using engagement on something i don't remember as a "gotcha" moment (like i actually have no clue what you're talking about). Pot meet kettle. 🤣🤣 Keep thinking of me as I continue to ignore you. ot: If biden bros can only point to other people and call them stupid for not voting for them (similar to bernie bros in 2016 and 2020, and similar to hillary stans in 2016) he is going to lose. He pretty much has already lost in 2024, but his team (and blue maga) are really butchering this.
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