shelven Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Just now, ClashAndBurn said: Same thing applies to Whitmer, who is the one everyone here has been hyping as the next best bet I mean they're both spineless, but at least this tweet isn't worded in the dumbest way ever. "It is what it is and I support the Dem nominee" is way less condescending and out-of-touch than "you have a moral obligation to be nice to poor old Joe because this race is about cheering up someone who's feeling blue :(" 1
ClashAndBurn Posted July 4 Posted July 4 If they're moving up the full airing of the interview, they must be extremely confident it's going to put a stop to the "bedwetting brigade" demanding he step aside. 1
dman4life Posted July 4 Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Same thing applies to Whitmer, who is the one everyone here has been hyping as the next best bet They're just salivating at the thought of Biden losing in a blowout and they can come to be the Democratic saviors after Trump torches the country for 4 years. It's really disgusting if you ask me. Y'all am I overthinking this?
Vermillion Posted July 4 Posted July 4 2 hours ago, shyboi said: i don't have a comeback sis, you got me good ngl, i will keep my mouth shut from now on We're good sis, no worries 2
Communion Posted July 4 Posted July 4 8 minutes ago, on the line said: loud-mouthed "Biden is gonna proven us wrong!" girl take the l. 1
GraceRandolph Posted July 4 Posted July 4 6 minutes ago, dman4life said: They're just salivating at the thought of Biden losing in a blowout and they can come to be the Democratic saviors after Trump torches the country for 4 years. It's really disgusting if you ask me. Y'all am I overthinking this? The thing is, if we get to 2028 and our democratic institutions have held then Dems aren't going to be able to get the GP to buy into a status quo Dem candidate.
GraceRandolph Posted July 4 Posted July 4 22 minutes ago, shelven said: Tweets like this are so emblematic of why so many Dem elected officials are so out of touch with the electorate (and, as a side note, also why Newsom would be a horrendous general election candidate and maybe the only person the Dems could put forward who Biden would outperform). Like... what the hell does "now it's time for us to have Biden's back" even mean? Do these people know that he's the president of one of the world's most influential countries and isn't our bestie who we have to comfort and support as he goes through a personal tough time? It's not the electorate's job to do the president a solid and cheer him up when he's feeling down, it's their job to pick a competent leader for their country I guess the Dems think protecting Biden's ego is more important than saving Democracy. The only upside to Trump winning is the DNC and their whole mindset about politics will go out the window and we might be able to have a more healthy discourse.
Communion Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) You know a ***** loves a chart. I think all the Dem governors are gonna have his back it's looking like. Telling Biden To Drop Out *or* Distancing from Biden Defending Kamala Running "Run Joe, Run!" Governors (D) John Carney (DE), Gavin Newsom (CA), Gretchen Whitmer (MI), Kathy Hocul (NY), Tim Walz (MN), Wes Moore (MD) Senate Dems Peter Welch (VT) House Dems (ND,BD) Jarden Golden (ME-02), Marie G. Perez (WA-03), Sean Casten (IL-06), Seth Moulton (MA-06), Scott Peters (CA-10) House Dems (CPC) Lloyd Doggett (TX-37), Raul Grijalva (AZ-07) Summer Lee (PA-12) I wonder if Murphy is gonna be messy though since he'd be the only one to have an opening to be as an outsider / not set to return to politics. Also moderates really are fake fucks. Edited July 4 by Communion 1 1
Communion Posted July 4 Posted July 4 The below governors met with Biden in person. The bold have within the last few hours commented their support: Andy Beshear (KY) Dan McKee (RI) JB Pritzker (IL) John Carney (DE) Gavin Newsom (CA) Gretchen Whitmer (MI) Kathy Hocul (NY) Maura Healey (MA) Tim Walz (MN) Wes Moore (MD) There were 17 others in attendance but virtual. Not sure if it's just a slow down in the Gov. Healey offices but Beshear and Pritzker taking their time is interesting.
GhostBox Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) Everyone on the Biden Train again 🚂🚂 oh come on @ClashAndBurn I'll save ya a first class Seat😉 Edited July 4 by GhostBox 2
ClashAndBurn Posted July 4 Posted July 4 6 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Everyone on the Biden Train again 🚂🚂 Genuinely **** Joe Biden and everyone who is supporting him. You specifically deserve Trump. YOU. SPECIFICALLY. 3
Communion Posted July 4 Posted July 4 9 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Everyone on the Biden Train again 🚂🚂 Celebrating like this about... Kathy Hochul of all people is so jfnbkfng 1
GhostBox Posted July 4 Posted July 4 cookies? Cookies? put the man down for god sakes . Giving people cookies. How dare he 💀
Sergi91 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 hours ago, 19SLAYty9 said: Gays for trump are insane. Project 2025 supports businesses being able to decline insurance coverage of PREP based on religious grounds They are too busy party and playing to care… Wait until their Prep runs out and not been able to get a refill…
family.guy123 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, shelven said: Tweets like this are so emblematic of why so many Dem elected officials are so out of touch with the electorate (and, as a side note, also why Newsom would be a horrendous general election candidate and maybe the only person the Dems could put forward who Biden would outperform). Like... what the hell does "now it's time for us to have Biden's back" even mean? Do these people know that he's the president of one of the world's most influential countries and isn't our bestie who we have to comfort and support as he goes through a personal tough time? It's not the electorate's job to do the president a solid and cheer him up when he's feeling down, it's their job to pick a competent leader for their country I think it's just another way to say vote for Biden
shelven Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 minute ago, family.guy123 said: I think it's just another way to say vote for Biden I understand the intention, but the delivery is tone deaf and condescending. A voter shouldn't have to vote for a presidential candidate to "have their back". A voter should be convinced to vote for a presidential candidate because they believe that candidate will do the job well. I know it's just a throwaway tweet, but my larger point is that this entire brand of messaging is just so woefully ineffective against anyone who's not already firmly in the pro-Biden camp. An undecided voter in suburban Wisconsin isn't going to be convinced to vote for Biden because "we owe him one!" 5
Temporal Posted July 4 Posted July 4 There would be so many paths out of this mess if Biden would just vigorously defend himself and his record, but the fact that he can't is all the more telling, I'm afraid 3 1
Blade Posted July 4 Posted July 4 I still think it's more likely Biden stays in than drops (55% vs 45%) but I'm not taking anyone says whether it's Biden, Harris, Whitmer, or Newsom at face value. No matter what is going on on the inside, they're going to act like Biden is in the race until if he officially isn't. I'm perched for more House dems coming against him though. If 25 Dems really come out against him staying and maybe a couple senators that would be interesting
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted July 4 ATRL Moderator Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Espresso said: Biden should listen to Black women (i.e., the minority centrist Dems love to tout nonstop to shut down policy conversations). 3 1
Bewitched Posted July 4 Posted July 4 2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: We don't know if a replacement will beat Trump, but Biden can't really expand his coalition at all. He can't even communicate atp, and wouldn't you rather take the risk of a new candidate than continue on Biden's sinking ship? i mean Biden is gonna hold on to that reelection over his bare hands so he's not going anywhere unfortunately I mean in terms of candidates to replace I don't even know where to start or how that process would look like and they would have to do it in like 30 days or less
CandleGuy Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, shelven said: Tweets like this are so emblematic of why so many Dem elected officials are so out of touch with the electorate (and, as a side note, also why Newsom would be a horrendous general election candidate and maybe the only person the Dems could put forward who Biden would outperform). Like... what the hell does "now it's time for us to have Biden's back" even mean? Do these people know that he's the president of one of the world's most influential countries and isn't our bestie who we have to comfort and support as he goes through a personal tough time? It's not the electorate's job to do the president a solid and cheer him up when he's feeling down, it's their job to pick a competent leader for their country 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: Same thing applies to Whitmer, who is the one everyone here has been hyping as the next best bet Because the DNC has exchanged career promises and/or made threats to anyone that goes against their will. Reminiscent of Buttegieg and Klobuchar dropping out the day before Super Tuesday in 2020 to clear the way for Biden's candidacy. Whitmer and Newsome are next in line if they just shut up and do as they're told. 1
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