ClashAndBurn Posted Sunday at 10:22 PM Posted Sunday at 10:22 PM 3 hours ago, superglowy said: This would actually be the biggest ******* kii. Who are you rooting for in 2028? There isn't really a high-profile Democrat that I like enough to root for. I find Kamala the least bad out of the most likely options we have, but… the way the Dems work? They will always go for the candidate I hate the most. In 2020 Biden was absolutely the candidate I wanted the least, and the electorate flocked to him. Everything anyone could possibly hate about a candidate, he embodied that for me, and people loved him because he just happened to be the old, racist conservative white guy that was chosen to balance out Obama. And now the Dems are primed to choose yet another rabid pro-genocide Zionazi, and it feels like there's nothing I can do about it, because there's not a single candidate that aligns with my values. Not a single one.
ClashAndBurn Posted Sunday at 10:32 PM Posted Sunday at 10:32 PM Unironically, she kind of is. And I hate it.
Devin Posted Sunday at 10:36 PM Posted Sunday at 10:36 PM dems needa find a man and spend time revising. 2
Bears01 Posted Sunday at 10:41 PM Posted Sunday at 10:41 PM Unless something changes, or he single handily decides to reverse course (on his OWN DOING) Trump is gonna ruin our country as soon as tomorrow. 1
YellowRibbon Posted Sunday at 10:49 PM Posted Sunday at 10:49 PM 7 minutes ago, Bears01 said: Unless something changes, or he single handily decides to reverse course (on his OWN DOING) Trump is gonna ruin our country as soon as tomorrow. Nikkei 225 opening in a few minutes... Let's the mess continue I guess
Ms. Togekiss Posted Sunday at 11:02 PM Posted Sunday at 11:02 PM So if most of the notable names in the Democratic Party are unelectable (except for maybe AOC, Walz, and Andy), who do the leftists think should be the frontrunner/candidate? Is there anyone out there that will not fail their purity test and that actually has a shot?
Communion Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: So if most of the notable names in the Democratic Party are unelectable (except for maybe AOC, Walz, and Andy), who do the leftists think should be the frontrunner/candidate? Is there anyone out there that will not fail their purity test and that actually has a shot? I do find it odd how people who talk about the weakness of the Dems' backbench largely also cite the hurdle of how partisan Dems don't view progressives as electable and thus someone like AOC won't get support and so the weaknesses aren't really moderates vs progressives, but yet the average centrist mind read these thorough arguments and just falls into 2016 Clinton pilled "purity tests" talks. Who is purity testing whom? Some of you are just not fit to talk about politics critically and use it more-so as a comfort, cause if you disagreed and believed you were right.. just share the facts! Make your argument! Tell us how you think Gavin Newsom will skillfully ease his way through a primary after essentially saying trans people give him the ick. Explain to the class your theory of how Pete Buttigieg navigates his lack of support from young people and black people better in 2028 than he did in 2020. How does Josh Shapiro overcome this in our age of massive conspiracy theories? Why is it conventional wisdom that right-wing Dems are inherently more electable by some imagined flaw of progressives yet it's "purity politics" to acknowledge centrists' shortcomings? The purity tests to me sounds like someone who thinks a Zionist who covered up a woman's murder is somehow more electable than a pro-M4A progressive. Edited Sunday at 11:19 PM by Communion 2
Armani. Posted Sunday at 11:19 PM Posted Sunday at 11:19 PM Now how did Patrick Ruffini get these North Carolina shifts on Redistricter???? It's slightly worse than that Also a bit confusing tbh of the swing states but maybe because the hurricane hit that state the most
Thuggin Posted Sunday at 11:26 PM Posted Sunday at 11:26 PM For everyone who thinks AOC is completely unelectable, 2006 polls of a 2008 McCain vs. Obama matchup showed McCain winning every single state except Illinois and Hawaii (and DC). You could argue Obama was more unknown at that point, but we saw how much Kamala was able to recover her favorability in just a matter of months campaigning. I think AOC becoming the nominee would give her more legitimacy among a Democratic voting coalition. That said, I don't expect her to throw her hat in the ring. 3
anti-bitch Posted Sunday at 11:38 PM Posted Sunday at 11:38 PM Cryptos are crashing. Bitcoin down 7%. Ethereum 14%. 4
GraceRandolph Posted Sunday at 11:46 PM Posted Sunday at 11:46 PM 43 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: So if most of the notable names in the Democratic Party are unelectable (except for maybe AOC, Walz, and Andy), who do the leftists think should be the frontrunner/candidate? 2 1 1
noodlelymph Posted Sunday at 11:48 PM Posted Sunday at 11:48 PM 3 hours ago, Redstreak said: I think what gets lost is that if you still believe in neoliberalism that your choices are good v bad and that leftists are letting great stop good. But to us these aren't good policies, they're just not nuclear bad like the far right, and not the worst can't be our positions going forward That's true. Liberals at large, including on this site, genuinely don't see and *truly* understand how the Dems (and their voters' own blind partisanship) enabled all of what's happening right now and literally made the conditions for it. Take the instance of demeaning student anti-genocide protestors with ZioNazi Dems like Harris, Biden, etc. calling them "antisemitic," constantly equating the Palestinian cause with "Hamas"/"terrorism," peddling the mass rapes lie, etc. ALL of this laying the groundwork to allow the Trump Admin to go full fascist and disappear protestors under the guise of "fighting terrorism." They literally helped manufacture consent for a lot of what's happening!!! 3
ClashAndBurn Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM 50 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: So if most of the notable names in the Democratic Party are unelectable (except for maybe AOC, Walz, and Andy), who do the leftists think should be the frontrunner/candidate? Is there anyone out there that will not fail their purity test and that actually has a shot? Bear in mind. I never said those three men were unelectable. I could see them winning the presidency. However all three of them are extremely evil people and I could never see myself bring myself to vote for any of them. Shapiro, Cuomo, and Newsom. I could see myself voting for any Democrat but those three, conceivably. And yet they are most likely our only choices moving forward.
Cesar Posted Monday at 12:03 AM Posted Monday at 12:03 AM 19 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Tomorrow is going to be real bad couldn't congress take away his ability to set tariffs like they did for canada recently?
Bears01 Posted Monday at 12:07 AM Posted Monday at 12:07 AM 1 minute ago, Cesar said: couldn't congress take away his ability to set tariffs like they did for canada recently? You need a majority in the house to call up for a vote (republicans control the house) and if he vetoed (he will) you'd need 2/3rds to overrule. Here's what republicans in the house as recent as like, 4 hours ago said about that: 1
YellowRibbon Posted Monday at 12:08 AM Posted Monday at 12:08 AM South Korea stocks down 4.3% at opening. Australia down near 5% as well Someone **** him
anti-bitch Posted Monday at 12:13 AM Posted Monday at 12:13 AM 1 hour ago, YellowRibbon said: Nikkei 225 opening in a few minutes... Let's the mess continue I guess -7.5% already
Armani. Posted Monday at 12:15 AM Posted Monday at 12:15 AM 43 minutes ago, Thuggin said: For everyone who thinks AOC is completely unelectable, 2006 polls of a 2008 McCain vs. Obama matchup showed McCain winning every single state except Illinois and Hawaii (and DC). You could argue Obama was more unknown at that point, but we saw how much Kamala was able to recover her favorability in just a matter of months campaigning. I think AOC becoming the nominee would give her more legitimacy among a Democratic voting coalition. That said, I don't expect her to throw her hat in the ring. She's not unelectable but she probably needs a bit more time tbh unless the options are really that far deep in the gutter Shapiro/Whitmer would probably be the Democrats most calculated pick of all time, but he sucks ass. If we're going that route then I'd settle for Jon Ossoff if he keeps his seat. And absolutely not to Newsom, his approvals are in the depths of hell and his brand atm is what's wrong with Democrats. 2
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