fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Hazy]

3 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

Hyein and Hanni Pham hitting the chorus whew the new Eunji/Bomi Hyolyn/Soyou  Poor Danielle getting Namjoo’ed like she need to get the main chorus next comeback

Danielle was the highlight of HypeBoy’s chorus so she’s good too  the line distribution seems kinda fair with this group, also I don’t think Hyein is singing Ditto’s chorus

[Dialamba]

1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said:

You basically just described every SM act. The thing with SM is that they are forcing things in the West, even though they are dominating in Asia. SM should’ve waited longer before sending aespa to the US.
 

 

Like they were doing everything great. Aespa was the next big think in Korea eventually international Stans would tune it. And it’s not liked their Spotify numbers were bad they were behind Itzy  I sais since day one SM would climb the bag if they force in the west especially with shitty songs like girls like bffrrr 

[ItsJustMe.]

everything NJ puts out is made with so much thought and care

it's so different compared to what the "big 3" are putting out these days

 

MHJ is a true genius and we need more people like her in kpop!

 

[ItsJustMe.]

 

demanding SOTY as she should!

[Adama]

11 minutes ago, Samson said:

SM acts seem to have relatively meh streaming across the board in terms of mainstream Kpop acts. Aespa is unfortunately part of that trend  maybe they can break from it, but I do agree that SM must be feeling really disappointed at the amount of US promo they've given Aespa since last year (including a US distribution deal!!!) only for Aespa to still miss top 200 on US Spotify. they're fine otherwise, but I think it might literally just be some kind of SM fandom curse

They should have performed in these big gaming events, instead of going to Nick cannon show  
 

3 minutes ago, Hazy said:

of course I don’t mean they got 5$ and did what we see now  I’m talking about the end product which is not beauty shots, good angles and mostly box sets 

But they do have beauty shots in Attention, also focus a lot in the angles. Also a lot of group are doing outdoors sets… 

 

7 minutes ago, Hazy said:

sure they are a concept group, every kpop group has a concept that affects the members more or less, but I find it refreshing that they seem authentic and just being themeselves - they don’t feel camera ready, they are quirky, naturally switching languages, weird sounding sometimes, they personality shows and that’s captivating - it even shows in their performances, they are not told to act like robots and follow the choreo perfectly but to add their own flavor which elevates it even more 

Are you really believing in these gimmicks ?

 

They’re acting like that bc it’s Kpop and nothing is authentic. MHJ and her team created a whole image and vibe for them. She was the one deciding that they would act carefree…

 

16 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

sm bought their own albums. it's as simple as that  no one actually moved for Girls

 

https://pann.nate.com/talk/366678890

https://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=grsgills&no=1674958

 

even knetz dragged them for flopping WW on spotify and commenters accuse sm of sajaegi

They have a big Chinese fandom so I think are real.
 

3 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said:

Aespa’s streaming stats appear even more tragic when you take into consideration the fact that they headlined Coachella main stage and releaseda full English song and video along with it! 

 

You have these girls that haven’t even stepped foot in the US out streaming them with ease 

It’s embarrassing for them bc they’re pushing Aespa to be the global leader but how can they do that when they don’t have good streams which are a big reflection of global success 

[thinking]

I fear this is SOTY,, If NJ released this

[Kummercell]

9 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

everything NJ puts out is made with so much thought and care

it's so different compared to what the "big 3" are putting out these days

 

MHJ is a true genius and we need more people like her in kpop!

 

she kinda is the most innovative person that has ever been involved in the kpop industry 

MIN HEEJIN WE LOVE YOU

[Adama]

12 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

You basically just described every SM act. The thing with SM is that they are forcing things in the West, even though they are dominating in Asia. SM should’ve waited longer before sending aespa to the US.
 

 

Yes they should have. I really wonder if they are going to bounce back next year and if Aespa next TT will finally debut in Spotify US. 

[Witnessed ET]

1 hour ago, JonginBey said:

They’re in love, wbk 

I don’t wanna sound like another fanfiction’d teen girlie but….there’s definitely smth 

[Hazy]

4 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

I didn’t recognize her at first because that sounded so different but she changed her singing technique  I was so confused like who was that that started the chorus and it was the only who I didn’t know 

 

 

The way Hyein Wonyoung her way to get that chorus before Danielle or Haerin is iconic  Former Korean Emma Chamberlain Incheon Wonyoung did that 

okay, I think we just consider different part as a chorus  to me Hyein’s part is pre chorus and chorus is divided between Hanni, Haerin and Minji but lets say we can consider Hyein’s part as chorus and then we get post chorus? 

 

4 minutes ago, Adama said:

But they do have beauty shots in Attention, also focus a lot in the angles. Also a lot of group are doing outdoors sets… 

 

Are you really believing in these gimmicks ?

 

They’re acting like that bc it’s Kpop and nothing is authentic. MHJ and her team created a whole image and vibe for them. She was the one deciding that they would act carefree…

good, MHJ decided they can act carefree and they do that and act like a regular teenagers (because they are ones so it automatically feels authentic and not forced), okay?  even if they get some tips their true self and aura is visible and I can see the personality - now go and watch other groups’ side content and it looks scripted to the max, current possible it girl for example is camera ready at all times and it’s really off putting to me 

 

also, NJ’ cinematography is miles above other groups and even if they would include some close-ups (which you’re mistaking for beauty shots, I think), it’s not like usual „slow down, open mouth, slightly closed eyes, wind in the hair and sparkles here and there” type of shot 

[Butters]

Something basic we're missing about NJ smashing ww is that international kpop stans follow whatever's popular in Korea. NJ is the trendiest gg in recent memory in Korea rn, there's probably more enthusiasm for them there than there is for IVE. The ifans got the memo clearly

 

NJ appears to be experimental/free creatively since it looks like its just MHJ at the helm. Everything they've put it feels fresh and new to this gen (obviously all aspects are perfectly planned and curated behind the scenes). 

LSFRM is more polished in terms of concepts and performance, more traditionally kpop in that vein. The members seem so ambitious while still being real and likable.

 

Both are so well run. 

 

 

 

[Hazy]

3 minutes ago, Butters said:

Something basic we're missing about NJ smashing ww is that international kpop stans follow whatever's popular in Korea. NJ is the trendiest gg in recent memory in Korea rn, there's probably more enthusiasm for them there than there is for IVE. The ifans got the memo clearly

 

NJ appears to be experimental/free creatively since it looks like its just MHJ at the helm. Everything they've put it feels fresh and new to this gen (obviously all aspects are perfectly planned and curated behind the scenes). 

LSFRM is more polished in terms of concepts and performance, more traditionally kpop in that vein. The members seem so ambitious while still being real and likable.

 

Both are so well run. 

 

 

this, I agree 

Le Sserafim is typical kpop group, but very well put together, with great material

 

NewJeans is MHJ’s dream project, she’s free to do what she likes with the group and it pays off, her love and knowledge of art is showing in everything they put out

[Hazy]

is it really true that aespa was meant to debut as NewJeans before MHJ left?  I can’t imagine any of them selling it well… there goes the idea of the concept and manufactured members - like it’s impossible to force some things upon certain people and convince the audience that it’s their natural self, MHJ was able to find 5 girls suitable for her vision and that’s a huge factor to the group’s success 

[Witnessed ET]

The way LSRFM and NewJeans single-handedly crushed HYBE’s girlgroup curse in a year 

 

And also adding SEVENTEEN, ENHYPEN (minus the latest mini), TXT (earlier material) - the amount of quality music and content we get from that company  

 

maybe I’m becoming a HYBE Hyena without even realizing it 

[Dialamba]

These comments. It’s giving YG and SM Stans. 
 

 

this song is a 10/10. The best HYBE group. 

[Mel.]

2 hours ago, BigBangStan said:

I'll wait another year, It's too early to denote them as Blackpink successors, most new girl groups are hot for one year and then underperform, look at ITZY, also Baemon is coming. They could be the next BP too. 

Baemon is coming to CLEAR!

[Hazy]

1 minute ago, Mel. said:

Baemon is coming to CLEAR!

and the award for the most clueless and hopeless company stan goes to: 

[Pluto6]

52 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Like they were doing everything great. Aespa was the next big think in Korea eventually international Stans would tune it. And it’s not liked their Spotify numbers were bad they were behind Itzy  I sais since day one SM would climb the bag if they force in the west especially with shitty songs like girls like bffrrr 

"Girls" was literally a masterpiece, like idk why the whole world hates it   

 

Ugh I miss the times when it was aespa and ITZY competing for the 4th gen girl group leader status 

 

39 minutes ago, Adama said:

Yes they should have. I really wonder if they are going to bounce back next year and if Aespa next TT will finally debut in Spotify US. 

It's not like they flopped, like people in here make it out to be  They just underperformed for their standards, but they still had a top 10 hit.

And also "Illusion" for a b-side did very well actually both domestically and globally. It has over 62M streams and served better longevity than "Girls". 

So yeah, they will probably bounce back.  

 

46 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

 

demanding SOTY as she should!

The demanding scream at the end when she said "VENOOOOM"

Edited December 21, 2022 by Pluto2022

[Take Me Apart]

I suspect Baemon will only be mildly successful  

 

Like on Le Sserafim’s level, but not enough to touch NJ or IVE

[Adama]

30 minutes ago, Hazy said:

okay, I think we just consider different part as a chorus  to me Hyein’s part is pre chorus and chorus is divided between Hanni, Haerin and Minji but lets say we can consider Hyein’s part as chorus and then we get post chorus? 

 

good, MHJ decided they can act carefree and they do that and act like a regular teenagers (because they are ones so it automatically feels authentic and not forced), okay?  even if they get some tips their true self and aura is visible and I can see the personality - now go and watch other groups’ side content and it looks scripted to the max, current possible it girl for example is camera ready at all times and it’s really off putting to me 

 

also, NJ’ cinematography is miles above other groups and even if they would include some close-ups (which you’re mistaking for beauty shots, I think), it’s not like usual „slow down, open mouth, slightly closed eyes, wind in the hair and sparkles here and there” type of shot 

I watched some others groups side contents and some of NJ too but I fail too see the differences between them and others groups contents? Do you have some exemple in mind? 

 

And Wonyoung act is a whole case lol, everyone know she’s not showing any personality and is very controlling of her image + Leeseo too now. 

 

3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

 

It's not like they flopped, like people in here make it out to be  They just underperformed for their standards, but they still had a top 10 hit.

And also "Illusion" for a b-side did very well actually both domestically and globally. It has over 62M streams and served better longevity than "Girls". 

So yeah, they will probably bounce back.  

 

 

How many weeks Girls stayed inside the top 10?
 

The TT really underperformed especially coming of from hits like NL and Savage. 
 

For the next gayo events they should skip girls and performs Illusion, The impact would be bigger imo

[Sugden]

aespa sound its just not something the WW public usually stans, ive and new jeans are smashing because their songs are a easy listen.

[Mel.]

10 minutes ago, Hazy said:

and the award for the most clueless and hopeless company stan goes to: 

Get off my dick.

[Adama]

It’s so embarrassing that even a well know journalist have to defend her from these dumb comments 

 

« The another man » in question being Simon Jacquemus make the whole thing even more embarrassing… 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2022 by Adama

[Mel.]

16 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said:

I suspect Baemon will only be mildly successful  

 

Like on Le Sserafim’s level, but not enough to touch NJ or IVE

You suspect wrong

they’re easily the most anticipated gg

Edited December 21, 2022 by Mel.

[Sugden]

i think sm i general needs to know how to balance experimentalism with being commercial

they usually go for extremes its either something really bland or something weird and difficult to digest, that's why their groups are so inconsistent chart-wise.