Hazy Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vrx. said: Erm are we going to pretend that at one point BB wasn't the biggest Korean BG internationally as well prior to BTS? https://www.investing.com/equities/yg-entertainment-inc-balance-sheet I'd recommend you just check out the quick breakdown and correlation - BP's gains from investing is almost always exclusively used for short term investments and cash, rather than long term investing Compare that to the reports when BB was the big money maker and their residuals were used for longer-term investments until one of their other groups made it big. It's no secret that this is literally how investing works BP is being used as a short-term investment and paying off liabilities currently until they leave and then their streams/albums which will be residuals will be used for longer-term investment. Whenever their debts get too high, they have a BP cb. It's not rocket science that they squeeze BLINKs for cash flow. BP didn't need a full album to tour, they could have honestly had a 4 song mini and their fans would have still bought it and went on to buy tickets. Unironically if you look at all the historical data you could have predicted the BP comebacks because you'll see YG taking on more debt/loans the quarter before and then announce the CB to recoup losses quickly. This is going to be the same strategy for BAEMON and I doubt they'll flop because GGs are way more lucrative CF-wise than men now it’s really hard to compare BB and BP, BB is bigger in Korea, but BTS and BP ww hold is bigger than kpop - they are not „the biggest kpop group” but the biggest bg and gg respectively - it won’t be that easy to replace them or put them in the basement, because their level of fame reach those of the biggest bgs and ggs in history yes, it’s obvious that YG is using BP as cash cow, but I don’t see them going on long term hiatus just now, they will keep releasing solo stuff in 2023 and we will get another „full” album in 2024 (if they renew), same as with The Album and Rose and Lisa debuts in 2021 and Baemon being successful still won’t mean replacing BP in any way, since as I’ve said, BP reached fame status that’s above kpop and we will see more of that since Rosé is building connections, Jennie is doing moves in the movie industry, bunch of artists expresed their willigness to work with Lisa and Jisoo turns out to be the most profitable, her solo is still ahead and looking at her performance on tour she’s more than ready to rock the stage on her own you really believe that some newcomers will replace for established, high profile celebrities right out of the gate and Blink will allow that and fully turn to support Baemon? it’s not RV and aespa situation, all BP girls built their brand and they won’t disappear from the world’s surface because random Baemon girlies will debut also, YG made a big mistake waiting so long with their new gg, their didn’t took Hybe into consideration and both Le Sserafim and NJ stole their gg concept to some extent, why debut „9 Jennies” when Hybe did it first with NJ, they are already generally loved, all pretty, redefined what’s trendy and have natural groove and Le sserafim have that crush, independent woman and fashion concept - the competition is strong this time around with various ggs and it won’t be that easy for Baemon to sweep, especially with BP still sitting on top
Hazy Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Selenasworld said: YG still copyrighted Lisa aren't they? what a crazy response Lalisa might be problematic too, but it’s still stupid to assume both Lisa and Rosè would change their „stage” name they would need to resolve it like GOT7 did
Selenasworld Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vrx. said: Yes If she uses Lisa as her stage name YG gets residuals. Lalisa is still viable but she can't name her debut as such due to the YG mini I hate YG they are horrible
Hay Amores Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, Hazy said: After Like too, Hype Boy is serving Love Dive trajectory and NewJeans surpassed 1B Circle points with their debut in 4 months, which is kinda crazy! Yep, Hype Boy is the new Love Dive. But i really hope it also mean that next G-Idle title won't be so huge as Tomboy and Nxde. It's unfair how they can thrive with such songs
Hazy Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Hay Amores said: Yep, Hype Boy is the new Love Dive. But i really hope it also mean that next G-Idle title won't be so huge as Tomboy and Nxde. It's unfair how they can thrive with such songs they will bag another hit, for some reason Korea loves them now and they serve their own and unique concept so I’m not mad it’s nice to see self producing and talented gg on top of the charts
BTS Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Selenasworld said: BTS continues to flop individually, eventually release OT7 songs buy without promotion, the group single/album sells decently, continues to flop on the charts
Narima Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, k4rmabutterfly said: thursday's child 57 minutes ago, WhalieX said: iconic comeback and one of the best kpop songs best song ever actually
Indie Go Mind Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Did Nayeon actually say this? Cause honestly work.
discreetinside Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, BTS said: Looks like he got some decent support from K-hiphop fanbase.
Selenasworld Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, BTS said: Amazing for boys standard but not really lmao
lily42 Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) SOTY Hype Boy recharting after MAMA and still gaining 1M streams. Ssera also serving longevity Edited December 2, 2022 by lily42
Narima Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, lily42 said: SOTY Hype Boy recharting after MAMA and still gaining 1M streams. Ssera also serving longevity i think it's more because of spotify wrapped but yes hype boy yes soty
Vrx. Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, Hazy said: it’s really hard to compare BB and BP, BB is bigger in Korea, but BTS and BP ww hold is bigger than kpop - they are not „the biggest kpop group” but the biggest bg and gg respectively - it won’t be that easy to replace them or put them in the basement, because their level of fame reach those of the biggest bgs and ggs in history yes, it’s obvious that YG is using BP as cash cow, but I don’t see them going on long term hiatus just now, they will keep releasing solo stuff in 2023 and we will get another „full” album in 2024 (if they renew), same as with The Album and Rose and Lisa debuts in 2021 and Baemon being successful still won’t mean replacing BP in any way, since as I’ve said, BP reached fame status that’s above kpop and we will see more of that since Rosé is building connections, Jennie is doing moves in the movie industry, bunch of artists expresed their willigness to work with Lisa and Jisoo turns out to be the most profitable, her solo is still ahead and looking at her performance on tour she’s more than ready to rock the stage on her own you really believe that some newcomers will replace for established, high profile celebrities right out of the gate and Blink will allow that and fully turn to support Baemon? it’s not RV and aespa situation, all BP girls built their brand and they won’t disappear from the world’s surface because random Baemon girlies will debut also, YG made a big mistake waiting so long with their new gg, their didn’t took Hybe into consideration and both Le Sserafim and NJ stole their gg concept to some extent, why debut „9 Jennies” when Hybe did it first with NJ, they are already generally loved, all pretty, redefined what’s trendy and have natural groove and Le sserafim have that crush, independent woman and fashion concept - the competition is strong this time around with various ggs and it won’t be that easy for Baemon to sweep, especially with BP still sitting on top Yes because newcomers always replace older established groups Like BP replaced 2NE1 and TWICE became the NGG, it’s natural for new generations to replace old ones as they become legacy acts BP’s individuals won’t disappear but their larger connections will the moment they leave YG (LVMH had a large investment in them, hence the girl’s brand deals). You’ve even said it yourself that the majority comes from their brand deals not their music, so it’s going to happen naturally @Indie Go Mind Nayeon actually did say that and skull dragged the loser netizens for being unwashed/smelly and spending their time hating idols instead of working on themselves A Jihyo tea
illia Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, Indie Go Mind said: Did Nayeon actually say this? Cause honestly work. she did it's from this video, the timestamp is 28:29 but for the whole context start with 26:18
Indie Go Mind Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, Vrx. said: @Indie Go Mind Nayeon actually did say that and skull dragged the loser netizens for being unwashed/smelly and spending their time hating idols instead of working on themselves A Jihyo tea 26 minutes ago, Flomik said: she did it's from this video, the timestamp is 28:29 but for the whole context start with 26:18 Just watched that portion of the video and honestly good for her. She shouldn't let those petty comments affect her and her visualization trick is more likely spot on for those toxic "fans"
OrgVisual Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Anyone knows if KARA will appear on variety shows this time around? Cuz I need Goddess Gyuri to make a comeback, she's such a LEGEND
Hazy Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, Vrx. said: Yes because newcomers always replace older established groups Like BP replaced 2NE1 and TWICE became the NGG, it’s natural for new generations to replace old ones as they become legacy acts BP’s individuals won’t disappear but their larger connections will the moment they leave YG (LVMH had a large investment in them, hence the girl’s brand deals). You’ve even said it yourself that the majority comes from their brand deals not their music, so it’s going to happen naturally @Indie Go Mind Nayeon actually did say that and skull dragged the loser netizens for being unwashed/smelly and spending their time hating idols instead of working on themselves A Jihyo tea I wrote long *** comment but got error 500 and it’s gone I will just repeat: BP are here to stay and won’t slow down in the near future (if they renew), YG cannot afford that, anyone believing that Baemon could replace them in current climate in any department is delusional, since BP’s success is an anomaly
Companion Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Itzy was never had enough skills to experiement different kind of music like not shy, mafia, sneakers etc... They should have sticked to the itz me album sound and experiement and grow in that sound. They should have done more songs like cherry and itz my summer.
Vrx. Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Hazy said: I wrote long *** comment but got error 500 and it’s gone I will just repeat: BP are here to stay and won’t slow down in the near future (if they renew), YG cannot afford that, anyone believing that Baemon could replace them in current climate in any department is delusional, since BP’s success is an anomaly They won't renew, and if they do it won't be as musical acts Jisoo is literally over it and said she's not even sure if she wants a solo. Lisa is good but gets **** music. Rose and Jennie are literally over YG as a whole. Their contracts would legit have to be some insane percentage and basically full control of their musical output for them to want to release it or they just all have individual contracts with no group items as a whole. I don't foresee YG doing that and I anticipate at least ONE of them will leave.
BTS Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Taste! That’s obviously fake
Xalric Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Sept said: Anyone knows if KARA will appear on variety shows this time around? Cuz I need Goddess Gyuri to make a comeback, she's such a LEGEND Goddes Gyuri aka her scripted personna is exactly the same script that (G)I-DLE Miyeon got. The minute she left DSP she lost that personna.
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