AxelFox Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 The theories in here But Jessica was the best member indeed Visuals, vocals, dancing, stage presence - none of the other girls ticked all boxes the way she did. Jessica, Seohyun and Yuri are the trinity of the group and would've been so amazing as a sub unit with a better concept that what snsd was getting. Secret is honestly cooler than anything snsd put out
Harrier Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sugden said: why would their parents meddle in this though? they were pretty old by that point idk it just doesn't make sense to me that if jessica was so important and profitable to sm and group that they would just let the other girls kick her out It is possible that the differences and conflict between the girls got so irreconcilable that SM had no choice. I actually think it makes more sense, bc it's just not in SM's interest to kick a popular member out during the heights of their success. Fashion business or not. I also think that if it was SM's doing, Jessica would be blaming them, not the members. To me it's clearly a decision borne out of emotion and deep personal issues, not business sense. That's why I'm hesitant to come down strongly for either side
Zack Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Rhyme said: Taeyeon was still more popular. The fact like 4 other members were right there with Jessica and you act like they were totally jealous. Well I don't see you bringing receipts for that, so your response is cute, but meaningless. It clearly shows Yoona and Jessica got the most solo CFs of all and this was nearly always the case. Jessica was also very popular internationally, including Japan and especially China.
OrgVisual Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zack said: So why did sone fansites in China know about this being the case for days before it actually happened? There's no smoke without fire. I think you're just so dead set against Jessica you've dehumanized her and are refusing to acknowledge information that is openly out there. And the smoke is definitely Jessica's relationship with Tyler and her drunken mess scandal in Hong Kong Like u think the girls were mad for no reason?
hallucinate Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aslan said: All this SNSD talk has made me want to go listen to their discography what’s their magnum opus and what should I avoid? all of their japanese albums tbh also give this bossa nova influenced excellence a listen Edited May 10, 2022 by hallucinate
Rhyme Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aslan said: All this SNSD talk has made me want to go listen to their discography what’s their magnum opus and what should I avoid? DJ, Put it on !
Queenyoncee Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rhyme said: "Star of the group" is a total lie. Taeyeon has always been by far the most popular member when you take into account her own personal fans and Yoona was neck & neck with her when it came to CFs. What was Jessica popular for exactly? That Cold Noodle song? I agree that the post of the user was a little bit delusional but Jessica was one of the most popular members in SNSD. btw that Noodle Song was also extremely huge
Zack Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, Harrier said: It is possible that the differences and conflict between the girls got so irreconcilable that SM had no choice. I actually think it makes more sense, bc it's just not in SM's interest to kick a popular member out during the heights of their success. Fashion business or not. Again, someone using reason @Sugden Korean culture runs on seniority and their parents definitely had influence/decision making power in the business decisions. It's a common thing in Korea.
Rhyme Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Zack said: Well I don't see you bringing receipts for that, so your response is cute, but meaningless. It clearly shows Yoona and Jessica got the most solo CFs of all and this was nearly always the case. Jessica was also very popular internationally, including Japan and especially China. What receipts? Chinese forums? These are all theories but you've taken this book as the truth so believe what you want to. I believe Jessica should move on. Isn't she debuting again? She should focus on her new members.
Rhyme Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Queenyoncee said: I agree that the post of the user was a little bit delusional but Jessica was one of the most popular members in SNSD. btw that Noodle Song was also extremely huge Jessica was never Taeyeon and Yoona popular.
cloudbusting Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 anyway let me listen to the superior (in terms of quality) 2nd gen SM girl group
Queenyoncee Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cotton said: Wait what? I thought it was on Yoona getting CFs from SNSD. Nn so many of them were getting solo ones? Wow All the girls in SNSD had always many CFs booked even in 2022 Taeyeon - Youngman Pizza -All At Me -Nerdy -eZn -Olive Young -Sulwhasoo -Benefit Tiffany -IOPE -LifePharm -Atelier Cologne -Celligram Yoona -Miu Miu -Estee Lauder -Pandora -DB Insurance -Hyundai Duty Free -JIGOTT -Fredit -TodayHouse -BB Lab Seohyun -Secret Day -Foodology -Clinique -Tirr Lirr -DEWL -Mo Mind Sooyoung -Wide Angle -Everjoy -Censia Yuri -shin ramyun -Le Coq Golf Hyoyeon -Le Coq Golf
Queenyoncee Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rhyme said: Jessica was never Taeyeon and Yoona popular. I agree, I just said that Jessica was one of the most popular members in the Group
Zack Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rhyme said: What receipts? Chinese forums? These are all theories but you've taken this book as the truth so believe what you want to. No. The receipts from SNSD's own fansites back in the day that were just posted, which clearly show Yoona and Jessica being the most popular with CFs. I've never taken the book of truth, I've said many times it's a work of fiction with elements of truth added in. Those elements I choose to believe because they corroborate the evidence that is already out there regarding this incident.
Harrier Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Speaking of f(x) Victoria doesn't get enough flack for permanently ******* off to China & torpedoing the chances of f(x) ever having activities again. Luna & Amber needed to eat sweetie and you left them in the DUST
harrythevifan Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Rhyme said: Jessica was never Taeyeon and Yoona popular. At one time she was #1 on the spank bank chart.
Cotton Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Harrier said: Speaking of f(x) Victoria doesn't get enough flack for permanently ******* off to China & torpedoing the chances of f(x) ever having activities again. Luna & Amber needed to eat sweetie and you left them in the DUST See I tweeted this and the girls weren’t happy. It’s not the same situation but it still stands! I guess she was making enough money in China for SM to not say anything but still
Zack Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Harrier said: Speaking of f(x) Victoria doesn't get enough flack for permanently ******* off to China & torpedoing the chances of f(x) ever having activities again. Luna & Amber needed to eat sweetie and you left them in the DUST Yeah she kinda screwed them over. Though that being said, it's SM's fault too because they could have had a comeback as 3.
Rhyme Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Queenyoncee said: I agree, I just said that Jessica was one of the most popular members in the Group Well, I said it mostly because he compared Taeyeon's popularity to Jihyo and Jessica to Nayeon as the reason for Taeyeon's "jealousy". From what I know of TWICE's fandom, Nayeon is one of the most popular members while Jihyo is in the middle so it didn't make sense.
Hendery Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Taeyeon knew she wouldn't have a successful solo career like she has today if it wasn't for Jessica leaving SM. Cause Jessica would have overshadowed her. Jessica was the Nayeon while Taeyeon was the Jihyo. overshadowed her in terms of what? lazyness? Not only was Taeyeon the better singer but Jessica was probably the one person worse at dancing/stage presence than her (along with sunny hihi) Also we already saw the direction Jessica went with her solo (the disney-esque theme) which bombed hard this HAS to be trolling like... Edited May 10, 2022 by Hendery
Adama Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Rhyme said: Maybe in the third book she'll expand on that, their business dealings, and Tyler's gambling since Rachel has left the group now. We need a Netflix adaptation. I’m not interested to read the book, but I’m here for a makjang adaptation
BTS Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 My Sone memory fails me but afaik didnt most of the girls wear Jessicas branded sunglasses for a bit after her departure? I’m sure it wasn’t completely 8 v 1
Zack Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, BTS said: My Sone memory fails me but afaik didnt most of the girls wear Jessicas branded sunglasses for a bit after her departure? No they never did. f(x) did though and since then, Red Velvet and aespa have also worn clothes from her brand.
Rhyme Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Adama said: We need a Netflix adaptation. I’m not interested to read the book, but I’m here for a makjang adaptation There was a Netflix deal for a movie I think but that was right before the pandemic started so I don't know if it got scrapped.
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