fan base Taylor Swift

[Bosque]

8 hours ago, Holiest Dreams said:

You have to put things into context though. Back when Taylor was starting out, women in mainstream pop (or country) music were still not taken seriously by critics, sans a very few examples. It was especially bad for young women, and her making music that was aimed at young women who could relate to her life phases was another layer added to discount her work. Her earlier albums always landing in the upper 70s was actually a very rare occurrence back then, not to mention the retrospective acclaim lots of her projects have seen. It’s hard to judge what critic scores even mean anymore when almost anyone can score 85+, so those 76-77 scores back in the day were comparable. Basically you have to adjust for inflation    
 

With that said, I definitely agree though with the sentiment. For example, 1989 is absolutely the biggest reason for the wave of Poptimism, yet it didn’t get to reap the benefits from it (at least initially)  

And I’ll never get over the 8.0 and 7.9 for folkmore from P4K. They’re obviously good scores still, but when many other subpar albums received the same or higher than that it just feels insulting.

Very true point about how critics see female artists, but critic scores in general have gone up a crazy amount. The lowest scoring album in all of 2023 has a 60, which make it the only album with a "mixed" Metascore. Confessions on a Dancefloor was one of the best-reviewed pop albums ever at the time, and it got an 80. Guts' score is on par with albums like My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, For Emma Forever Ago, Channel Orange, To Pimp a Butterfly, Lemonade and Body Talk

 

The only critic opinion that can be taken at all seriously these days are year-end lists, because it forces them to actually rank the albums against each other rather than just giving everything an 80-100%  

[Kyle-x]

The Great War is truly a masterclass in songwriting excellence 

[Badgalbriel]

2 hours ago, Steve Johnson said:

 

Who tf reported these? It's Taylor base and we can discuss whatever we want here. 

nah, don't talk about other artists here. I didn't report anything, but whoever reported had their reasons. 

[SpeakNowTv]

4 minutes ago, Kyle-x said:

The Great War is truly a masterclass in songwriting excellence 

ikr, can you believe a friend of mine said it's one of the most annoying songs to him? i am judging

[Klein]

Seeing a bit of Midnights praise over the last few pages is making me happy. Swifties tend to overlook this album just because it was produced mainly by Jack.

 

Let me contribute:

- Karma is Swift goofiness excellence;

- Maroon, You're On Your Own Kid, The Great War and Would've Could've Should've are among Taylor's best songs ever.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Klein

[Prismee]

1. Lavender Haze
2. Maroon
3. Anti-Hero
4. Snow on the Beach (the More Lana version)
5. You're on Your Own, Kid
6. Midnight Rain
7. Bejeweled
8. Karma

9. The Great War
10. Would've, Could've, Should've
11. High Infidelity 
12. You're Losing Me

13. Dear Reader

AOTY

[Steve Johnson]

20 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

nah, don't talk about other artists here. I didn't report anything, but whoever reported had their reasons. 

Yeah ok. I rarely talk about anyone but Taylor here anyway.

[LiamVillain]

I think she'll attend tonight and release something on Sept 13

[Klein]

Btw, the Midnight's era certifications have been updated in Australia 

 

Anti-Hero - 5x Platinum (350,000) 

 

Karma - 2x Platinum (140,000)

Lavender Haze - 2x Platinum (140,000)

 

Maroon - Platinum (70,000)

Midnight Rain - Platinum (70,000) 

You're On Your Own Kid - Platinum (70,000)

Bejeweled - Platinum (70,000)

Snow On The Beach - Platinum (70,000) 

Vigilante **** - Platinum (70,000) 

 

Would've, Could've, Should've - Gold (35,000) 

Bigger Than The Whole Sky - Gold (35,000) 

Labyrinth - Gold (35,000) 

Mastermind - Gold (35,000) 

Paris - Gold (35,000)

Question...? - Gold (35,000) 

Sweet Nothing - Gold (35,000) 

 

Total: 1.295M 

•  

[FolkLover1989]

21 minutes ago, Klein said:

Btw, the Midnight's era certifications have been updated in Australia 

 

Anti-Hero - 5x Platinum (350,000) 

 

Karma - 2x Platinum (140,000)

Lavender Haze - 2x Platinum (140,000)

 

Maroon - Platinum (70,000)

Midnight Rain - Platinum (70,000) 

You're On Your Own Kid - Platinum (70,000)

Bejeweled - Platinum (70,000)

Snow On The Beach - Platinum (70,000) 

Vigilante **** - Platinum (70,000) 

 

Would've, Could've, Should've - Gold (35,000) 

Bigger Than The Whole Sky - Gold (35,000) 

Labyrinth - Gold (35,000) 

Mastermind - Gold (35,000) 

Paris - Gold (35,000)

Question...? - Gold (35,000) 

Sweet Nothing - Gold (35,000) 

 

Total: 1.295M 

•  

Oh this is huge

 

Like every song is huge here. Imagine the Midnights certs after Tour 

[Steve Johnson]

23 minutes ago, Klein said:

Btw, the Midnight's era certifications have been updated in Australia 

 

Anti-Hero - 5x Platinum (350,000) 

 

Karma - 2x Platinum (140,000)

Lavender Haze - 2x Platinum (140,000)

 

Maroon - Platinum (70,000)

Midnight Rain - Platinum (70,000) 

You're On Your Own Kid - Platinum (70,000)

Bejeweled - Platinum (70,000)

Snow On The Beach - Platinum (70,000) 

Vigilante **** - Platinum (70,000) 

 

Would've, Could've, Should've - Gold (35,000) 

Bigger Than The Whole Sky - Gold (35,000) 

Labyrinth - Gold (35,000) 

Mastermind - Gold (35,000) 

Paris - Gold (35,000)

Question...? - Gold (35,000) 

Sweet Nothing - Gold (35,000) 

 

Total: 1.295M 

•  

What about the album? 

[Thorn]

She is the most nominated artist of the night with 11 nominations and she is at the peak of her career. Of course she is attending.

[SpeakNowTv]

2 minutes ago, Thorn said:

She is the most nominated artist of the night with 11 nominations and she is at the peak of her career. Of course she is attending.

i think she might attend but i dont think we should expect any sort of announcement, also cause at this point the only thing she could publicly announce is a single from 1989tv which i doubt it's gonna happen 

[Thorn]

3 minutes ago, SpeakNowTv said:

i think she might attend but i dont think we should expect any sort of announcement, also cause at this point the only thing she could publicly announce is a single from 1989tv which i doubt it's gonna happen 

Exactly, I don't think she's going to announce anything either, but she will almost certainly attend. Plus, she directed those videos, so she'll want to shine as a director.

[Klein]

38 minutes ago, Steve Johnson said:

What about the album? 

Unless I'm mistaken, the album is still Platinum (70,000). 

 

Speak Now songs have also been updated in Australia

 

Mine - 3X Platinum (210,000)

 

Mean - 2X Platinum (140,000) 

 

Back To December - Platinum (70,000)

Enchanted - Platinum (70,000)

Sparks Fly - Platinum (70,000)

The Story Of Us - Platinum (70,000)

 

Better Than Revenge - Gold (35,000)

Dear John - Gold (35,000)

Haunted (Acoustic) - Gold (35,000)

Last Kiss - Gold (35,000)

Never Grow Up - Gold (35,000)

Ours - Gold (35,000)

Speak Now - Gold (35,000)

Edited September 12, 2023 by Klein

[Steve Johnson]

18 minutes ago, Klein said:

Unless I'm mistaken, the album is still Platinum (70,000). 

 

Only platinum. Isn't the album still in top 10? 

[Klein]

Just now, Steve Johnson said:

Only platinum. Isn't the album still in top 10? 

It is, currently #6 for its 46th week. 

 

It should cross 2X Platinum late 2023/early 2024. 

[Klein]

Speaking of certifications, I can't believe Midnights is still 2X Platinum in the US when it's near 6M units 

[By the Water]

Turns out @Beyonnaise was right. All these headlines are so transparent

[Michael196]

22 hours ago, fridayteenage said:

she won for 

album 2

album 5 (+3)

album 8 (+3)

 

released in 2008

2014 (+6)

2020 (+6)

 

maybe she'll win for her 2026 album.

that would mean that TS11 isn't coming until 2026

spoiled swifties might actually die before then 

[Klein]

Now this is a song that would be deserving of the title of Taylor's best written song 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Klein

[Itsaliability]

1 hour ago, Michael196 said:

that would mean that TS11 isn't coming until 2026

spoiled swifties might actually die before then 

That would actually mean that she might start flirting with October-November 2024 for TS11 as that would make it eligible for 2026 grammys 

[SpeakNowTv]

6 minutes ago, Itsaliability said:

That would actually mean that she might start flirting with October-November 2024 for TS11 as that would make it eligible for 2026 grammys 

i wouldn't mind a break after the tour and the rerecordings

[Klein]

I've been re-watching various surprise song performances tonight, and I kinda forgot how great was ivy. 

 

Taylor + Aaron is a golden collaboration. 

[Badgalbriel]

1 hour ago, Michael196 said:

that would mean that TS11 isn't coming until 2026

spoiled swifties might actually die before then 

TS11 coming in November 2024