Summer Boy Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Born This Way The Fame Monster Chromatica The Fame ARTPOP A Star is Born Joanne -- 1000 Doves is hitting hard today, the melody of the chorus is so gorgeous and the lyrics are actually very beautiful. 1
DonnieDarko Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Damn, the way Joanne is dead last on almost every ranking here. She really was not it. 1
Summer Boy Posted January 19 Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said: Damn, the way Joanne is dead last on almost every ranking here. She really was not it. to be honest I still like Joanne, it's just not as strong as her other albums. But it's still a good record to me! 4
DonnieDarko Posted January 19 Posted January 19 1 minute ago, Summer Boy said: to be honest I still like Joanne, it's just not as strong as her other albums. But it's still a good record to me! Totally. I’m never calling any of her albums bad nor do I make fun of people (unlike some others) liking it or any other Gaga album that I find the most boring or whatever. Joanne has its strong moments, one of them to me is DH.🤩 2
Aden Posted January 19 Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said: Damn, the way Joanne is dead last on almost every ranking here. She really was not it. Joanne is not her worst work in my opinion and even though it's generally a decent body of work, I think it's going to remain in the lower tier of her discography for the rest of her album cycles to come. It was an awkward time for her and the material shows. She had to delicately balance sanitizing her image and going in a new musical direction.
State of Grace. Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Joanne was the last time it felt like she was making music that she wanted to make and not something that she had to make. And I pray that LG7 is exactly that. It's an album that she needed to make at the time. It's far from being flawless and I could write a dissertation criticizing it (especially the part about BloodPop being brought in by Interscope to make it more modern sounding because the material was too stripped back, or the part about her being obsessed with what Liddos would think of the music and constantly trying to add hooks/reference TFM until Mark stopped her ). Her fanbase will never admit it but that album is more "essential" to her discography/career than Chromatica ever will be. Sorry ladies but that will always be the tea! Immortal Reasons 1 - 0 Liddos! 6 1
sunbathinganimal Posted January 19 Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Joanne was the last time it felt like she was making music that she wanted to make and not something that she had to make. And I pray that LG7 is exactly that. It's an album that she needed to make at the time. It's far from being flawless and I could write a dissertation criticizing it (especially the part about BloodPop being brought in by Interscope to make it more modern sounding because the material was too stripped back, or the part about her being obsessed with what Liddos would think of the music and constantly trying to add hooks/reference TFM until Mark stopped her ). Her fanbase will never admit it but that album is more "essential" to her discography/career than Chromatica ever will be. Sorry ladies but that will always be the tea! Immortal Reasons 1 - 0 Liddos! ok but Chromatica is still better 8 2
FameFatale Posted January 19 Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Joanne was the last time it felt like she was making music that she wanted to make and not something that she had to make. And I pray that LG7 is exactly that. It's an album that she needed to make at the time. It's far from being flawless and I could write a dissertation criticizing it (especially the part about BloodPop being brought in by Interscope to make it more modern sounding because the material was too stripped back, or the part about her being obsessed with what Liddos would think of the music and constantly trying to add hooks/reference TFM until Mark stopped her ). Her fanbase will never admit it but that album is more "essential" to her discography/career than Chromatica ever will be. Sorry ladies but that will always be the tea! Immortal Reasons 1 - 0 Liddos! Back in the day the way every time she talked about making Chromatica it always sounded like she would rather eat glass 4
State of Grace. Posted January 19 Posted January 19 1 minute ago, sunbathinganimal said: ok but Chromatica is still better Nnnn I'm not arguing which album is better because that's subjective I personally consider both middle-of-the-road'd albums with amazing concepts but poor execution. I prefer Joanna overall for Perfect Illusion alone, but I need to be in a certain mood for it. Chromatica is an easier listen. 1
sunbathinganimal Posted January 19 Posted January 19 when LG7 is her worst album yet and the Little Joannesters and Little Chromaticsers finally agree on something 3
SweetOreosOfHeaven Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Just now, sunbathinganimal said: when LG7 is her worst album yet and the Little Joannesters and Little Chromaticsers finally agree on something No I need it to be at least her third-best album (below TFM and BTW) pls 1
perfectillusion204 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 lol at Lüc Carl being at the BTW photoshoot and there are pics of them smooching
EnigmaticAndroid Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Joanne was as important to her image rehabilitation and the arc of her career as it is sanitized, messily constructed, and the clear weak link of her albums so far. Xoxo Gossip Girl 💋 1 3
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I found some content for everyone while we wait for LG7 4
sunbathinganimal Posted January 19 Posted January 19 1 minute ago, CoolNebraskaGuy said: I found some content for everyone while we wait for LG7 not this having better choreo than Stupid Love 2
Blade Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Born This Way The Fame Monster A Star Is Born The Fame Chromatica Joanne ARTPOP All great but the first 3 are all magnum opus worthy 1
chosensparkles Posted January 19 Posted January 19 @State of Grace. always spilling the tea! the way she looked like Chroma was such a pain to make and not only for the content at least she looked passionate for Joanne, yes it wasn't a perfect album at all but it's still much more impactful in her career imo than Chroma ever will be Chroma was her trying to bring back the old Gaga but missing something, that spark... it was like Taylor doing Lover to bring back her good girl image hopefully LG7 is her folklore/evermore meaning her big acclaimed album 1 2
Reginald Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I remember being so hyped for Mark Ronson to release a Gaga'd Uptown Funk, in 2016 The shock when Joanne Angelina was the exact opposite of a fun disco-funk album 1
Cameltoe Chariot Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) Joanne is not a bad album at ALL, it's just with Gaga it kinda pales in comparison to the ambition of every other album she's put out... but that's kind of the point. When you put each album in order and look at the threads that tie them together, you see a clear trajectory. I know this is long but I think it's worth looking at: THE FAME -> All about the art of creating the identity she wants, escaping the past, shaping a new narrative and lying to herself to feel confident and powerful. A wild and successful attempt at reinvention. THE FAME MONSTER -> The lie came true, and now she's famous. Now what? Fear, paranoia and echoes of trauma start popping up in her lyrics. Compare "Monster" to the much later "Replay" and you can see how lyrically she was beginning to open up about her SA trauma, but still needing to frame it as fantastical to cope. BORN THIS WAY -> The fame she chased ended up being a nightmare. This is where she turned the spotlight that was blinding her onto the LGBTQ+ community, and began to harness her massive profile for good instead of solely self gain. BTW Foundation, the BTW single and overall message, her motivational speeches at every tour stop and the constant embracing of her fans. Routinely telling everyone to leave her shows loving themselves more than loving her. ARTPOP -> Manic burn out from the pressures of fame and her fandom. To her label she's a money making machine, and to her fans she's their literal mother. Expectations from all angles are now out of control and she collapses. She was in the process of recording this album too when she broke her hip. She was trying to be everything to everyone, and while this is her messiest era the music has aged so well and lyrically it was moving towards real introspection. "Swine" is another swing at exploring her SA trauma, less fantastical than "Monster". JOANNE -> The healing begins. She looks back to the beginning, and sees echos of her late Aunt Joanne, a figure she has been referencing constantly since the first album (Joanne's poetry is even included in The Fame album booklet). She's more personal than ever in her lyrics, but as she says in later interviews she still wasn't being vulnerable enough, and her attempts to heal with this music was hindered by simultaneously trying to "heal her father" and giving him an album to be proud of. CHROMATICA -> Her most personal, raw and (in my opinion) successful album to date. She seamlessly combined her dance pop roots with the autobiographical efforts of Joanne, and made a truly impressive work about "dancing through the pain". "Alice", "Rain On Me", "Fun Tonight", "911", "Plastic Doll", "Enigma", "Replay", "1000 Doves"... all incredibly vulnerable, personal tracks. Lyrically her best album, and critically her best received. Can't believe I just shared a Gaga dissertation on ATRL but I guess that's what happens when the vyvanse and coffee kicks in! Edited January 19 by Cameltoe Chariot 7 6
Kimi Posted January 19 Posted January 19 3 hours ago, DonnieDarko said: Album ranking - critics 1. Chromatica 79 2. ASIB/TFM 78 3. TF/BTW (tragic) 71 4. Joanne 67 5. ARTPOP 61 Album ranking - user score on Metacritic 1. TFM 8.9 2. Chromatica/ ASIB 8.5 3. TF 8.4 4. BTW 8.3 (a crime lmao) 5. Joanne 8.1 6. ARTPOP 8.0 71 before poptimism is higher than 79 after poptimism. She had good scores, equal to Fearless/RED and look at them now, super acclaimed. 1 1
chosensparkles Posted January 19 Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said: Joanne is not a bad album at ALL, it's just with Gaga it kinda pales in comparison to the ambition of every other album she's put out... but that's kind of the point. When you put each album in order and look at the threads that tie them together, you see a clear trajectory. I know this is long but I think it's worth looking at: THE FAME -> All about the art of creating the identity she wants, escaping the past, shaping a new narrative and lying to herself to feel confident and powerful. A wild and successful attempt at reinvention. THE FAME MONSTER -> The lie came true, and now she's famous. Now what? Fear, paranoia and echoes of trauma start popping up in her lyrics. Compare "Monster" to the much later "Replay" and you can see how lyrically she was beginning to open up about her SA trauma, but still needing to frame it as fantastical to cope. BORN THIS WAY -> The fame she chased ended up being a nightmare. This is where she turned the spotlight that was blinding her onto the LGBTQ+ community, and began to harness her massive profile for good instead of solely self gain. BTW Foundation, the BTW single and overall message, her motivational speeches at every tour stop and the constant embracing of her fans. Routinely telling everyone to leave her shows loving themselves more than loving her. ARTPOP -> Manic burn out from the pressures of fame and her fandom. To her label she's a money making machine, and to her fans she's their literal mother. Expectations from all angles are now out of control and she collapses. She was in the process of recording this album too when she broke her hip. She was trying to be everything to everyone, and while this is her messiest era the music has aged so well and lyrically it was moving towards real introspection. "Swine" is another swing at exploring her SA trauma, less fantastical than "Monster". JOANNE -> The healing begins. She looks back to the beginning, and sees echos of her late Aunt Joanne, a figure she has been referencing constantly since the first album (Joanne's poetry is even included in The Fame album booklet). She's more personal than ever in her lyrics, but as she says in later interviews she still wasn't being vulnerable enough, and her attempts to heal with this music was hindered by simultaneously trying to "heal her father" and giving him an album to be proud of. CHROMATICA -> Her most personal, raw and (in my opinion) successful album to date. She seamlessly combined her dance pop roots with the autobiographical efforts of Joanne, and made a truly impressive work about "dancing through the pain". "Alice", "Rain On Me", "Fun Tonight", "911", "Plastic Doll", "Enigma", "Replay", "1000 Doves"... all incredibly vulnerable, personal tracks. Lyrically her best album, and critically her best received. Can't believe I just stared a Gaga dissertation on ATRL but I guess that's what happens when the vyvanse and coffee kicks in! ultimately that's why I love her discography cause despite all the flaws, it's still cohesive imo and interesting Chroma is lyrically her most personal record indeed tho I do feel she held back sometimes 1
DonnieDarko Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) The lyrics, passion, raw emotions and vulnerability on Chromatica is, to me, way more prominent than on any other of her albums. BTW, as a whole, is just spectacular and anthemic and can’t be compared to any of her other records. These two albums will forever be ingrained as THE Lady Gaga albums to me. Edited January 19 by DonnieDarko 2 1
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