Mariah4life Posted yesterday at 09:10 AM Posted yesterday at 09:10 AM (edited) when we all thought gaga her mind was so smart for having joker inspired MV for DWAS because people would be interested after the movie comes out. DWAS didnt need joker. joker needed dwas Edited yesterday at 09:10 AM by Mariah4life 1 5
Freaky Prince Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM 16 minutes ago, Miss Anthropocene said: Feeling like pure **** just want Abracadabra to leak 2
Popular Post Mariano Posted yesterday at 09:52 AM Popular Post Posted yesterday at 09:52 AM Negativity alert, scroll past it if u don't wanna read it Firstly, why are Gaga's releases always messy, uncertain, delays etc. idgi. I am pretty sure album was supposed to come out earlier this year, but for whatever reason it didn't. This 4 month gap makes 0 sense especially with no pre orders. What's the point? Pre orders would've made it make sense, but no pre orders is just My theory is they wanted to delay everything til 2025, but they knew fans would be angry so they launched lead single with nothing, not even physicals Terrible. Interscope literally had successful album campaign with Billie and I understand u can't do the same for Gaga, because Gaga is not gen z etc. etc. but 4 months gap? How are u gonna look at billie's success and then be like mhm Katy Perry/Dua lipa schedule it is!!! Secondly, how/why does it always feel like Gaga is behind everyone else in terms of schedule. Remember earlier this year how we had to wait for everyone to release and we were like hopefully Gaga next etc. etc. now people are already starting to announce projects for February. And ofc here we are with nothing still. And that's not even the best part, the best part is that artists who released multiple times since Gaga's last album and toured are already preparing to announce new tours, like Bey is apparently announcing her dates after her NFL show on Christmas. How!??!?!? And with Gaga it looked like she was going to tour in 2025 and now it's starting to look like that might not be the case? To sum it up - Gaga not only never strikes when the iron is hot, but at this point she barely even strikes when she is OVERDUE Artists who have been active non stop in last 2-3 years are somehow announcing stuff before Gaga again.. With all of that said, maybe they'll announce album soon and maybe she will still tour in 2025 and everything will be fine 7 9
IBeMe Posted yesterday at 10:12 AM Posted yesterday at 10:12 AM 18 minutes ago, Mariano said: Negativity alert, scroll past it if u don't wanna read it Firstly, why are Gaga's releases always messy, uncertain, delays etc. idgi. I am pretty sure album was supposed to come out earlier this year, but for whatever reason it didn't. This 4 month gap makes 0 sense especially with no pre orders. What's the point? Pre orders would've made it make sense, but no pre orders is just My theory is they wanted to delay everything til 2025, but they knew fans would be angry so they launched lead single with nothing, not even physicals Terrible. Interscope literally had successful album campaign with Billie and I understand u can't do the same for Gaga, because Gaga is not gen z etc. etc. but 4 months gap? How are u gonna look at billie's success and then be like mhm Katy Perry/Dua lipa schedule it is!!! Secondly, how/why does it always feel like Gaga is behind everyone else in terms of schedule. Remember earlier this year how we had to wait for everyone to release and we were like hopefully Gaga next etc. etc. now people are already starting to announce projects for February. And ofc here we are with nothing still. And that's not even the best part, the best part is that artists who released multiple times since Gaga's last album and toured are already preparing to announce new tours, like Bey is apparently announcing her dates after her NFL show on Christmas. How!??!?!? And with Gaga it looked like she was going to tour in 2025 and now it's starting to look like that might not be the case? To sum it up - Gaga not only never strikes when the iron is hot, but at this point she barely even strikes when she is OVERDUE Artists who have been active non stop in last 2-3 years are somehow announcing stuff before Gaga again.. With all of that said, maybe they'll announce album soon and maybe she will still tour in 2025 and everything will be fine skip this? honey I need to FRAME this more of this...MORE PLZZZZZ guys 1 9
HonourableVomit Posted yesterday at 10:55 AM Posted yesterday at 10:55 AM simple answer is they're not chasing commercial success with this and you're all going to continue to be disappointed when she doesn't live up to your "she's still the queen!1!" fantasy. Everything makes perfect sense if you just look at the artistic output rather than chart watch 6
Human Fly Posted yesterday at 11:09 AM Posted yesterday at 11:09 AM She'll share the pre order link along with the 2nd single y all. Stop overthinking about it. Please be patient and lets see what are they cooking for the world and the new era. Just stream disease and lets give it 100M streams before the 2nd single and new year. 1
killer_rose Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM 14 minutes ago, Human Fly said: She'll share the pre order link along with the 2nd single y all. Stop overthinking about it. Please be patient and lets see what are they cooking for the world and the new era. Just stream disease and lets give it 100M streams before the 2nd single and new year. 7
Mariano Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 44 minutes ago, HonourableVomit said: simple answer is they're not chasing commercial success with this and you're all going to continue to be disappointed when she doesn't live up to your "she's still the queen!1!" fantasy. Everything makes perfect sense if you just look at the artistic output rather than chart watch That's just not genuine and I feel like u know that If you mean to say that LG7 is not getting the commercial success that most fans would like it to have, then I agree. I haven't followed charts in many many years. I don't even know where to look if I want to check spotify streams or something Success comes in many ways and as someone who also loves Bey, clearly I'm not here for spotify streams! To me Beyonce is the most successful of this century and she gets less daily streams than Katy perry. She has literally carved her own lane and her only competition is herself, because she plays by her own rules. Gaga often plays by the same rules that Katy and Dua Lipa play. It's just the truth so how can u say they are not trying to chase commercial success.. It feels to me that Gaga's team don't know how to properly handle her in this day and age and it feels to me that Interscope is always a bit insecure around new Gaga releases and don't treat her like the royalty that she is. The closest thing we got to something different was Harlequin, not gonna lie even tho it was a bit misleading/disappointing, for the first time in the 2nd half of her career it felt like she was doing something cool/different/unexpected and exciting. It's just unfortunate that it turned out to be a covers album for a really hated movie. But also, that was not really backed by Interscope, it was mostly Gaga herself - she even released it under her own mini label. Bey for example knows how to turn her releases into events/experiences/a moment. And her music is definitely not more commercial than Gaga, but it often gets more success. I just want to see some creativity with her releases and a bit more budget, something more exciting. It doesn't really feel like LG7 era has started yet, but maybe that's not a bad thing. If they announce the album in January, then it's almost like Disease never existed (as a lead single, obviously it's still a fantastic song). And then they will still have the opportunity to do something cool/interesting/fun next year. I am positive that they have something cool planned. I don't measure success in terms of tik tok hits or spotify streams or chart #s. You can be successful in other ways, like I said with Bey. That's where i think Gaga should be and seeing her trying to force her song on tik tok is not giving me hope, at the same time there's nothing wrong with her doing that and I hate to seem like I'm complaining nn, but I feel like they are trying to repeat what happened with Bloody Mary and it's not going to work out. Edited 23 hours ago by Mariano 5
Aston Martin Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) This week's mediatraffic United World Charts update: DWAS gains 434,000 points (and stays at #2). This brings its point total to 6,411,000 points, which is enough to get it on the all-time chart (where it would be at #397). But that hasn't updated yet. Gaga's biggest songs on the chart: Poker Face: 9,840,000 points Shallow: 8,931,000 points Bad Romance: 8,874,000 points Just Dance: 7,935,000 points Born This Way: 6,626,000 points Die with a Smile: 6,411,000 points DWAS will pass BTW with next week's update. In terms of female artists with the most entries on the chart (and I'm counting Gaga as having 6 since DWAS is eligible): Madonna: 10 Rihanna: 10 Lady Gaga: 6 Katy Perry: 6 Taylor Swift: 5 Dua Lipa: 4 Mariah Carey: 4 Olivia Newton-John: 4 Bruno Mars has 5 songs on the chart (including DWAS). Edited 23 hours ago by Aston Martin 3
thesegayz Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Mariano said: That's just not genuine and I feel like u know that If you mean to say that LG7 is not getting the commercial success that most fans would like it to have, then I agree. I haven't followed charts in many many years. I don't even know where to look if I want to check spotify streams or something Success comes in many ways and as someone who also loves Bey, clearly I'm not here for spotify streams! To me Beyonce is the most successful of this century and she gets less daily streams than Katy perry. She has literally carved her own lane and her only competition is herself, because she plays by her own rules. Gaga often plays by the same rules that Katy and Dua Lipa play. It's just the truth so how can u say they are not trying to chase commercial success.. It feels to me that Gaga's team don't know how to properly handle her in this day and age and it feels to me that Interscope is always a bit insecure around new Gaga releases and don't treat her like the royalty that she is. The closest thing we got to something different was Harlequin, not gonna lie even tho it was a bit misleading/disappointing, for the first time in the 2nd half of her career it felt like she was doing something cool/different/unexpected and exciting. It's just unfortunate that it turned out to be a covers album for a really hated movie. But also, that was not really backed by Interscope, it was mostly Gaga herself - she even released it under her own mini label. Bey for example knows how to turn her releases into events/experiences/a moment. And her music is definitely not more commercial than Gaga, but it often gets more success. I just want to see some creativity with her releases and a bit more budget, something more exciting. It doesn't really feel like LG7 era has started yet, but maybe that's not a bad thing. If they announce the album in January, then it's almost like Disease never existed (as a lead single, obviously it's still a fantastic song). And then they will still have the opportunity to do something cool/interesting/fun next year. I am positive that they have something cool planned. I don't measure success in terms of tik tok hits or spotify streams or chart #s. You can be successful in other ways, like I said with Bey. That's where i think Gaga should be and seeing her trying to force her song on tik tok is not giving me hope, at the same time there's nothing wrong with her doing that and I hate to seem like I'm complaining nn, but I feel like they are trying to repeat what happened with Bloody Mary and it's not going to work out. You know this is just pop music, right? would you rather have shitty music and a #1 campaign or good music and minimal promo? who is bullying you online that you have to meltdown like this? It's weird 1 1
MAKSIM Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, Mariano said: That's just not genuine and I feel like u know that If you mean to say that LG7 is not getting the commercial success that most fans would like it to have, then I agree. I haven't followed charts in many many years. I don't even know where to look if I want to check spotify streams or something Success comes in many ways and as someone who also loves Bey, clearly I'm not here for spotify streams! To me Beyonce is the most successful of this century and she gets less daily streams than Katy perry. She has literally carved her own lane and her only competition is herself, because she plays by her own rules. Gaga often plays by the same rules that Katy and Dua Lipa play. It's just the truth so how can u say they are not trying to chase commercial success.. It feels to me that Gaga's team don't know how to properly handle her in this day and age and it feels to me that Interscope is always a bit insecure around new Gaga releases and don't treat her like the royalty that she is. The closest thing we got to something different was Harlequin, not gonna lie even tho it was a bit misleading/disappointing, for the first time in the 2nd half of her career it felt like she was doing something cool/different/unexpected and exciting. It's just unfortunate that it turned out to be a covers album for a really hated movie. But also, that was not really backed by Interscope, it was mostly Gaga herself - she even released it under her own mini label. Bey for example knows how to turn her releases into events/experiences/a moment. And her music is definitely not more commercial than Gaga, but it often gets more success. I just want to see some creativity with her releases and a bit more budget, something more exciting. It doesn't really feel like LG7 era has started yet, but maybe that's not a bad thing. If they announce the album in January, then it's almost like Disease never existed (as a lead single, obviously it's still a fantastic song). And then they will still have the opportunity to do something cool/interesting/fun next year. I am positive that they have something cool planned. I don't measure success in terms of tik tok hits or spotify streams or chart #s. You can be successful in other ways, like I said with Bey. That's where i think Gaga should be and seeing her trying to force her song on tik tok is not giving me hope, at the same time there's nothing wrong with her doing that and I hate to seem like I'm complaining nn, but I feel like they are trying to repeat what happened with Bloody Mary and it's not going to work out. Gaga will never be Beyoncé and there are many reasons for that. DWAS is one of the most radio accessible singles one can release and it still only hits 60 million radio AI in comparison to a song like A Bar Song that can hit 105 million radio AI. You cite Beyoncé as someone who knows how to make her albums an event, but her album cycles for the past three albums have been notoriously lowkey with no music videos, no promo interviews, no scheduled performances and you would be pissed if Gaga treated her album cycles like Beyoncé did. This fan base could not even handle the possibility that a video would not be released day of - let alone any sliver of creativity for an album cycle. Edited 23 hours ago by MAKSIM 7
Mariano Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 15 minutes ago, thesegayz said: You know this is just pop music, right? would you rather have shitty music and a #1 campaign or good music and minimal promo? who is bullying you online that you have to meltdown like this? It's weird I have no idea what you're saying, but you sound really angry and mad Nothing of what I said was a meltdown or mad, it's just an opinion. You sound unwell. 16 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: Gaga will never be Beyoncé and there are many reasons for that. DWAS is one of the most radio accessible singles one can release and it still only hits 60 million radio AI in comparison to a song like A Bar Song that can hit 105 million radio AI. You cite Beyoncé as someone who knows how to make her albums an event, but her album cycles for the past three albums have been notoriously lowkey with no music videos, no promo interviews, no scheduled performances and you would be pissed if Gaga treated her album cycles like Beyoncé did. This fan base could not even handle the possibility that a video would not be released day of - let alone any sliver of creativity for an album cycle. You're not completely wrong I mean Beyonce can elevate her eras even more, especially CC was left to die, no promo, no MVs like you said. But you kinda missed my point. CC was still an event, because it was launched in a more innovative/fun/exciting way. It only went downhil later on when she abondaned it and yes it was totally Gaga style so I guess that's where I threw you off with the Bey comparison. But I was just talking about launching the era in a bigger/more exciting way and Bey was still able to do it with CC. Anyway I shouldn't have mentioned Beyonce, cuz I know some of u get really mad over her 5
Europe Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, thesegayz said: would you rather have shitty music and a #1 campaign or good music and minimal promo? Sis why should there be a choice between the two? It is perfectly reasonable to expect good music AND promo. Doesn't she have a team just for that? Edited 23 hours ago by Europe 2
GipJo Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Christmas song is breathing on DWAS' neck starting from today, Mariah is 2.7m away from it. 1
GipJo Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Also I always wonder, do people really actively listen to those songs in their own time this early into Christmas or just like millions of business owners play this through their speakers everyday.
Dante Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, GipJo said: Also I always wonder, do people really actively listen to those songs in their own time this early into Christmas or just like millions of business owners play this through their speakers everyday. i think it's just background music, while they are decorating or making food or ****
Hair Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Dante said: i think it's just background music, while they are decorating or making food or **** Yeah can't lie, I think I'm going to put the Christmas decs up today and we always put on a Christmas playlist on Spotify.
Soup in Teapot Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Disease sounds SO GOOD on high quality overear headphonesOh what a masterpiece you are! 2
Namiskine Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago If the promo bar is Beyoncé, then LG7 is already a colossal era
Ricardo1993 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago the people we really need to blame the general public can kiss my ass 3 1
Sannie Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Mariano said: Negativity alert, scroll past it if u don't wanna read it Firstly, why are Gaga's releases always messy, uncertain, delays etc. idgi. I am pretty sure album was supposed to come out earlier this year, but for whatever reason it didn't. This 4 month gap makes 0 sense especially with no pre orders. What's the point? Pre orders would've made it make sense, but no pre orders is just My theory is they wanted to delay everything til 2025, but they knew fans would be angry so they launched lead single with nothing, not even physicals Terrible. Interscope literally had successful album campaign with Billie and I understand u can't do the same for Gaga, because Gaga is not gen z etc. etc. but 4 months gap? How are u gonna look at billie's success and then be like mhm Katy Perry/Dua lipa schedule it is!!! Secondly, how/why does it always feel like Gaga is behind everyone else in terms of schedule. Remember earlier this year how we had to wait for everyone to release and we were like hopefully Gaga next etc. etc. now people are already starting to announce projects for February. And ofc here we are with nothing still. And that's not even the best part, the best part is that artists who released multiple times since Gaga's last album and toured are already preparing to announce new tours, like Bey is apparently announcing her dates after her NFL show on Christmas. How!??!?!? And with Gaga it looked like she was going to tour in 2025 and now it's starting to look like that might not be the case? To sum it up - Gaga not only never strikes when the iron is hot, but at this point she barely even strikes when she is OVERDUE Artists who have been active non stop in last 2-3 years are somehow announcing stuff before Gaga again.. With all of that said, maybe they'll announce album soon and maybe she will still tour in 2025 and everything will be fine i mean, tbf, most of this is based on complete conjecture and not facts. there's no evidence the album was supposed to come out sooner, and there's no such thing as "gaga being behind everyone's schedule" since everyone has their own schedules. i do think they intended to strike while the iron was hot, but the iron in question here was joker 2 and it was never even pre-heated after joker bombed, i assume they had two choices: push everything back to 2025 or release disease now and then push forward with the album in 2025. they decided to release disease now (and maybe that was always the plan) and we're still mad. we got a single, a video, multiple video performances, and, for better for worse, she's super active on the one social media site she does use, tiktok lol. we know of coachella and this brazil performance so it's clear something is happening in 2025 along with the album. the fact that she's willing to travel to do these festivals says to me that she's 100% back in the swing of things and is ready to "return". however, this fanbase keeps thinking we're in 2011 and old-school promotional tactics are going to work. i also think this fanbase struggles with object permanence. like, there is this super prevalent myth among monsters that if gaga isn't spoon feeding them her schedule, it means she's at home sleeping or doing nothing when clearly there's **** going on that will culminate in 2025 and the album release. edit: beyonce's album drops feel like an event because her fanbase helps make them into events. beyonce sure in the hell doesn't do much of anything, but her fans force it all onto people. monsters would never do that because this fanbase is a mess lol. Edited 20 hours ago by Sannie 5 1
GraceRandolph Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 5 hours ago, Mariano said: Negativity alert, scroll past it if u don't wanna read it Firstly, why are Gaga's releases always messy, uncertain, delays etc. idgi. I am pretty sure album was supposed to come out earlier this year, but for whatever reason it didn't. This 4 month gap makes 0 sense especially with no pre orders. What's the point? Pre orders would've made it make sense, but no pre orders is just My theory is they wanted to delay everything til 2025, but they knew fans would be angry so they launched lead single with nothing, not even physicals Terrible. Interscope literally had successful album campaign with Billie and I understand u can't do the same for Gaga, because Gaga is not gen z etc. etc. but 4 months gap? How are u gonna look at billie's success and then be like mhm Katy Perry/Dua lipa schedule it is!!! Secondly, how/why does it always feel like Gaga is behind everyone else in terms of schedule. Remember earlier this year how we had to wait for everyone to release and we were like hopefully Gaga next etc. etc. now people are already starting to announce projects for February. And ofc here we are with nothing still. And that's not even the best part, the best part is that artists who released multiple times since Gaga's last album and toured are already preparing to announce new tours, like Bey is apparently announcing her dates after her NFL show on Christmas. How!??!?!? And with Gaga it looked like she was going to tour in 2025 and now it's starting to look like that might not be the case? To sum it up - Gaga not only never strikes when the iron is hot, but at this point she barely even strikes when she is OVERDUE Artists who have been active non stop in last 2-3 years are somehow announcing stuff before Gaga again.. With all of that said, maybe they'll announce album soon and maybe she will still tour in 2025 and everything will be fine The era isn't really messy though? It makes sense considering she was probably assuming she'd be in award season mode for Joker between the release of Disease and LG7.
Abracadabra Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 4 hours ago, HonourableVomit said: simple answer is they're not chasing commercial success with this and you're all going to continue to be disappointed when she doesn't live up to your "she's still the queen!1!" fantasy. Everything makes perfect sense if you just look at the artistic output rather than chart watch Yeah, I agree with this. I really think LG7 is going to be a transitional album in her career where the focus isn't on commercial success at all. As much as we all want it do well, and Interscope will too, focusing on having an album that is well received and "cool" (to use a word that's slightly corny) is probably a smart and tactical move for Gaga's career at this point as she approaches her 40's. Focusing on critical acclaim and prestige will give her more longevity than just trying to score her another big hit. 1
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