Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 1 minute ago, ViviLittleM said: Nooooo I thought the great radio updates would propel it higher and thought ABS would fall more… we shall see what the mid week update looks like
Chaos Angel Posted November 10 Posted November 10 I believe the reason Disease isn't doing well commercially is because of the harsh & gritty vocals that are a turn off for the GP. As a fan, the song is amazing. But the GP is into smooth and easy on the ears vocals lately, and Disease isn't exactly that. I also agree it's not a matter of HAC vs. Dance Pop sound, because BM just went viral. But the difference between BM & Disease is that the former has much smoother & lighter vocals. It's an easier listen for the GP. The Zombified snippet already sounded like it had hit potential so I'm curious to see if that's the second single. 4
Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 I think Gaga should just focus on making really good music she believes in. Core fans will naturally support it, and if it catches on with the GP— great. Quality songs that are less "GP friendly" are seeing more of a fighting chance with the rise of social media. she might as well just focus on making really really good music and whatever happens happens (which I think is what's happening with LG7?). im kinda thinking of bedtime stories/ray of light. The music wasnt really the most radio friendly but it was full quality and people naturally ate it up 1
Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 Not every song Gaga releases is gonna stick. That doesn't mean she should just stop releasing this type of music… I believe a song in the LG7 style (from what we've heard) has potential to do well, even if it's a niche hit. because it's what fans want, it'll have a huge debut (disease's debut was NOT bad. It wasn't amazing but it fell in line with average A list releases). This can help push it at the beginning and if the GP likes it it'll naturally find an audience. the stars are just gonna have to align and that isn't guaranteed to happen, but if she keeps pushing and releasing songs I firmly believe one will resonate eventually.
l3disko Posted November 10 Posted November 10 The EMAs are happening right now. I can't. She should be there. 1 2
Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 9 minutes ago, Chaos Angel said: I believe the reason Disease isn't doing well commercially is because of the harsh & gritty vocals that are a turn off for the GP. As a fan, the song is amazing. But the GP is into smooth and easy on the ears vocals lately, and Disease isn't exactly that. I also agree it's not a matter of HAC vs. Dance Pop sound, because BM just went viral. But the difference between BM & Disease is that the former has much smoother & lighter vocals. It's an easier listen for the GP. The Zombified snippet already sounded like it had hit potential so I'm curious to see if that's the second single. Yeah I agree. Disease's production fits perfectly with BTW, but her vocals are definitely much more theatrical, loud and "tough" (can't think of a good word but you get what I'm saying) i personally like vocal style in disease and think it's adds to the song, but i definitely see why they aren't as digestible to the average listener when compared to a Bloody Mary or Judas
Zaram Posted November 10 Posted November 10 7 minutes ago, Chaos Angel said: I believe the reason Disease isn't doing well commercially is because of the harsh & gritty vocals that are a turn off for the GP. As a fan, the song is amazing. But the GP is into smooth and easy on the ears vocals lately, and Disease isn't exactly that. I also agree it's not a matter of HAC vs. Dance Pop sound, because BM just went viral. But the difference between BM & Disease is that the former has much smoother & lighter vocals. It's an easier listen for the GP. The Zombified snippet already sounded like it had hit potential so I'm curious to see if that's the second single. We live in the era where soft voices, minimalistic instruments and genericness wins. Disease is none of these 1
Human Fly Posted November 10 Posted November 10 8 minutes ago, Denim said: I agree. I can't tell if you're saying it's a good or bad attempt, but for me it's a swing and massive hit. I love the song it's my favorite song of hers in a long while. Abracadabra is the best song she's ever created and it's yet to come, zombified is serving 2008-demo-ga, and notorious being/girlfriend/dance in the shadow are already career highlights. Sorry! She's still very good but creativity when it comes to writing a song and lyrics very weak. Dont get me wrong 2024 Godga still miles better than the ones like Taylor, beyonce, katy BUT 2011-2013 Godga would wipe the floor with 2024 godga. If you want to bring that Gaga out of you with that production, do not ever come to us with lyrics like lay down,123 , ecstasy, cure and lyrics like that. Give me freak godga just give it to us even if it doesnt make any sense.
ViviLittleM Posted November 10 Posted November 10 3 minutes ago, l3disko said: The EMAs are happening right now. I can't. She should be there. Another win for DWAS? Stay tuned
Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 1 minute ago, Human Fly said: She's still very good but creativity when it comes to writing a song and lyrics very weak. If you want to bring that Gaga out of you with that production, do not ever come to us with lyrics like lay down,123 , ecstasy, cure and lyrics like that. Give me freak godga just give it to us even if it doesnt make any sense. Yeah the lyrics are definitely the weak spot in disease
Human Fly Posted November 10 Posted November 10 1 minute ago, Denim said: Yeah the lyrics are definitely the weak spot in disease And i have no issue with her vocals. Imo her vocals are perfect. I dont get why you guys criticize her vocals, thats exactly how she signs bad romance. Its a Gaga song, ofc its going to be LOUD, GRITTY, THEATRE VOCALS. Thats basically her brand. Disease's problem is the lyrics. Very basic and almost like vanilla britney from 2008 , trying new sound or straight up copying gaga would come up with Disease. Harsh production, very very weak lyrics. She could've talk to me about ripping heads, burning barbies on the streets, torturing herself and some other psychopath thoughs and it would be Chef's kiss. Feels like they tried their best to fit in " lead single" " radio single" " make it more friendly" yet it didnt satisfy her core base and listeners.
Nando_05 Posted November 10 Posted November 10 11 minutes ago, Chaos Angel said: I believe the reason Disease isn't doing well commercially is because of the harsh & gritty vocals that are a turn off for the GP. As a fan, the song is amazing. But the GP is into smooth and easy on the ears vocals lately, and Disease isn't exactly that. I also agree it's not a matter of HAC vs. Dance Pop sound, because BM just went viral. But the difference between BM & Disease is that the former has much smoother & lighter vocals. It's an easier listen for the GP. The Zombified snippet already sounded like it had hit potential so I'm curious to see if that's the second single. I agree. Yesterday my mom listened Desease for the first time. She liked but also said: "why is she screaming the whole song?. Too loud". The same happened with Hold My Hand. We all know Gaga can sing and is one of the most talented vocalist alive. I just wish she release a song with soft vocals someday. She's captable to still make a song with those vocals but with Gaga's touch (Heavy Metal Lover, Paparazzi, Paper Gangsta, So Happy I Could Die).
Chaos Angel Posted November 10 Posted November 10 5 minutes ago, Human Fly said: And i have no issue with her vocals. Imo her vocals are perfect. I dont get why you guys criticize her vocals, thats exactly how she signs bad romance. Its a Gaga song, ofc its going to be LOUD, GRITTY, THEATRE VOCALS. Thats basically her brand. Disease's problem is the lyrics. Very basic and almost like vanilla britney from 2008 , trying new sound or straight up copying gaga would come up with Disease. Harsh production, very very weak lyrics. She could've talk to me about ripping heads, burning barbies on the streets, torturing herself and some other psychopath thoughs and it would be Chef's kiss. Feels like they tried their best to fit in " lead single" " radio single" " make it more friendly" yet it didnt satisfy her core base and listeners. Have you seen the charts lately? Lyrics don't matter; there's plenty of hits right now with the most generic lyrics you can find. What the hits do have in common now is a softer and more airy sound, both with vocals & production. I don't think it's fair to compare it to BR, and that was a different time period when Gaga was still forming her image and quite an anomaly for pop songs not only at its time, but for all of pop music in history.
l3disko Posted November 10 Posted November 10 I could be your girlfriend for the weekend but you'd have to sell your soul to keep me Girlfriend's chorus gets stuck in my head far more often than Disease's tbh.
IBeMe Posted November 10 Posted November 10 yeah Gracie is going to obviously get the #1 once the xmas freeze is done and she will have it resoundingly too. Her metrics seem like they are growing insanely and rapidely. DWAS will remain blocked unless Gaga and her team do a second attempt at #1 in the next week or the week after at the LATEST.
Hollywood. Posted November 10 Posted November 10 Disease has grown me a lot. I wasn't sure how I felt about it at first, but I feel it actually might be her best lead in a while, despite the lyrics being on the basic side. I haven't even bothered listening to Perfect Illusion, Stupid Love or Applause in forever. 1
PMM Posted November 10 Posted November 10 ok so i am having free time with my family , will have a lot of catching up to do, but nothing new? do i really care about that haus labs thing? no. hell no. it's nice to hear her talk. but could you at least try to recreate your look of sth? maybe record yourself singing disease and put it up on youtube. will have 3 days off more when i come back i want sth @ladygaga @bobby @michael
Doctor Dick Posted November 10 Posted November 10 Disease is great but it ain't becoming a hit. Maybe one day if it goes viral for some reason but it ain't it now. That said, her team should just prep the next single and we should get it early January if they are still heading towards a February release for the album. Radio and streaming services will give the album one last shot at redemption with proper promo and visibility because Gaga is still considered A-list. If she flops with another single and a third song doesn't go viral I think it'll be over for her commercially in terms of being regarded as a "one of the biggest new releases" any time she drops something. It's just how it goes. That's why Bobby should now put more effort into it than ever before and her entire team should as well. LG7 is for the fans but the label still invested tons of money into it so they need to earn it back so a success this era is super important for SoloGa. I think the initial plan is to release Dance in the Shadow as it sounds like that's the snippet teased and they've teased it TWICE now potentially so that must mean they have THAT as a high hope in the album's roll out. Their new MR or ROM.
Jack! Posted November 10 Posted November 10 (edited) Gracie getting a hit after being made a bit of a laughing stock online is cool for her, but if this is looking to be huge from it's metrics now, it doesn't bode well for DWAS ever getting the #1, and doesn't bode well for January being an easy time to get a hit. Although the fact the Xmas songs haven't started infiltrating the streaming charts yet is interesting. It might soften how much certain hits rebound in the new year. Maybe this year people don't intend to give Xmas music much of a boost as in the past. Edited November 10 by Jack!
Chaos Angel Posted November 10 Posted November 10 12 minutes ago, IBeMe said: yeah Gracie is going to obviously get the #1 once the xmas freeze is done and she will have it resoundingly too. Her metrics seem like they are growing insanely and rapidely. DWAS will remain blocked unless Gaga and her team do a second attempt at #1 in the next week or the week after at the LATEST. At this rate I can see DWAS being the highest non-Xmas song during December but then being blocked again by Gracie right after Also CMAs are next week which means another boost for ABS. The best chance is the week of November 22-28 but even that's not likely if ABS's boost from CMAs carries over. 1
Human Fly Posted November 10 Posted November 10 20 minutes ago, Chaos Angel said: Have you seen the charts lately? and have you ever heard gaga's voice? do you really expect her to sing like sabrina carpenter? because that's physicallys and neurologically impossible for her. Her vocals always been loud and gritty. Even back in 2009 Paparazzi studio vocals never matched with her live vocals.
Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 6 minutes ago, Chaos Angel said: At this rate I can see DWAS being the highest non-Xmas song during December but then being blocked again by Gracie right after Yeah…. :(
Arthoe Posted November 10 Posted November 10 7 minutes ago, Jack! said: Gracie getting a hit after being made a bit of a laughing stock online is cool for her, but if this is looking to be huge from it's metrics now, it doesn't bode well for DWAS ever getting the #1, and doesn't bode well for January being an easy time to get a hit. Although he fact the Xmas songs haven't started infiltrating the streaming charts yet is interesting. Maybe this year people don't intend to give Xmas music much of a boost as in the past. The way all the chartsters and pseudo chartsters were meltdowning about the DWAS Vinyl being delayed by two weeks, not knowing she should have delayed them for another month for the boost, along with the other DWAS content. We were closer to #1 this week and will be closer next week than we were in the week it received a boost. 1
Denim Posted November 10 Posted November 10 4 minutes ago, Human Fly said: and have you ever heard gaga's voice? do you really expect her to sing like sabrina carpenter? because that's physicallys and neurologically impossible for her. Her vocals always been loud and gritty. Even back in 2009 Paparazzi studio vocals never matched with her live vocals. Her voice is quite poppy and smooth on die with a smile, much much noticeably so than disease not saying she should switch it up just to get a hit, I like the vocals on disease, but it definitely is there if she wanted to
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