Miracle Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) The shipped back thing is so funny cause gaga has extreme creative control over what she releases after she resigned her Interscope contract like a decade ago. She's not Normani or Azealia Banks, please. Edited July 5 by Miracle
Canonical Ensembl Posted July 5 Posted July 5 16 minutes ago, jesus del rey said: First TL&TL, then LG7, then TL&TL again, what else is gonna get shipped back? JFAD maybe? 3
Marry The Gods Posted July 5 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, shadowfred said: a lot, like A LOT! there's a scene in 2013 of Gaga reflecting on her career, on her steps... she told Tony that she almost died during the BTW Ball tour. Tony turns to her and says that she needs to slow down and that he will help her with that. she talks a lot about her career. she was very lost in 2012-2013, i had never seen her like that. he changed her life, literally. I'm so excited to watch this. Brunette Gaga footage 1
Popular Post Aston Martin Posted July 5 Popular Post Posted July 5 I haven't seen TLaTL yet, but it's so sad to hear that she apparently wasn't trusting herself or her creative choices during this period of her life. Like she was coming off of Born This Way of all albums, any one of us would probably be extremely trusting in our own creative instincts if we had just released an album that strong. We really are our own harshest critics It also cannot be understated how kind it was for Tony to take her under his wing. Not only did he want to see her flourish creatively, but we wanted to see her happy. That level of no-strings-attached generosity is rare enough in the world, but doubly so when you're in the entertainment business. I know we joke about the jazz stuff a lot (and a lot of the jokes are hilarious tbh) but I can see why it's so important to her. He really did so much and I can see why she treasures it. Thank you Tony 18
Jack! Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Interestingly enough, I'm actually not surprised to hear of her maybe lacking in creative trust post-Born This Way. Despite that album being so successful, it was probably the first time in her career at that time her credibility was being questioned, in terms of quality (I remember at the time people didn't love what they were hearing and comparing it to TF/M so much) and it was the first time she probably got slated for "flopping" with Marry the Night. And I think the biggest giveaway was she followed it up with ARTPOP. An album she publicly stated many times was "made for radio". My biggest wish for LG7 is she doesn't feel any sort of attachment to needing a project to be successful. As long as she's happy with the music. 7
hausofbryan Posted July 5 Posted July 5 18 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: I haven't seen TLaTL yet, but it's so sad to hear that she apparently wasn't trusting herself or her creative choices during this period of her life. Like she was coming off of Born This Way of all albums, any one of us would probably be extremely trusting in our own creative instincts if we had just released an album that strong. We really are our own harshest critics It also cannot be understated how kind it was for Tony to take her under his wing. Not only did he want to see her flourish creatively, but we wanted to see her happy. That level of no-strings-attached generosity is rare enough in the world, but doubly so when you're in the entertainment business. I know we joke about the jazz stuff a lot (and a lot of the jokes are hilarious tbh) but I can see why it's so important to her. He really did so much and I can see why she treasures it. Thank you Tony I agree. In 48 hours J&P is dead for good, wahoo! 1
Happylittlepunk Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) It gives born this way far more credibility when the songs from the album keep going viral on tik tok for the past couple of years more so than even the fame/monster albums. It must be such a relief to her seeing the entire new generation embracing that album. I also wanted to point out that Gaga probably felt very pressured for commercial success that time period. She was still a new pop star despite all her success during that time period. In a way if she wanted career growth something like art pop had to happen at some point so she could evolve and take her artistry at a different form. Edited July 5 by Happylittlepunk 4
judaskills Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Okay, her new album definitely has something going on with Hell. She's said it one too many times now lol. 2
Archetype Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Every time we learn more about Gaga's state of mind leading up to ARTPOP, I'm only MORE justified in my opinion that it's her worst record. Also yes we already knew Tony basically saved her life and helped her get back on track, he was an actual angel for her and her family. That type of kindness is just so rare today, but it's no wonder so many people considered him to be a legend bigger than life. 5
Puttanesca Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Ugh I need the doc so bad. I will never forgive ARTPOP for destroying her confidence and leading her astray like that. Thank god for Tony.
Dumbledore Posted July 5 Posted July 5 ARTPOP is mythical cause she made it in pain, in turmoil, and survived it. NO ARTPOP slander in here thank u. Blame the abusive system, not the music 6 7
Aden Posted July 5 Posted July 5 As much as I think that Artpop and Joanne are solid records as pop albums, you can tell they lacked the edge and creative cohesion she brought with her first three albums. You could sense the lack of confidence in the music, the roll-outs, the performances, the interviews, etc. Thankfully it built back up over time. ASIB's colossal success must have been a HUGE relief for her because it was such a risk. And even though Chromatica is not without its respective faults, it's the most confident pop form of Gaga we've seen since 2013. I don't want to get ahead of myself but LG7 gives off the vibes of being an excellent record. I'm merely going off of how confident she looked and sounded at the Chromatica Ball Premiere. I think her success as an actress also helped built her creative confidence back up. 5
Aden Posted July 5 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Happylittlepunk said: It gives born this way far more credibility when the songs from the album keep going viral on tik tok for the past couple of years more so than even the fame/monster albums. It must be such a relief to her seeing the entire new generation embracing that album. I also wanted to point out that Gaga probably felt very pressured for commercial success that time period. She was still a new pop star despite all her success during that time period. In a way if she wanted career growth something like art pop had to happen at some point so she could evolve and take her artistry at a different form. Agree 100% with everything. It really is weird to think about but ARTPOP almost had to happen because her debut and succeeding peak were soooooo ginormous in commercial and critical scale. When you serve records like Fame, Monster, and BTW back-to-back you're left with little choice but to do something really out there like ARTPOP. Metaphorically, it's like she served three consecutive Folklores and was inevitably going to serve a Midnights/Tortured Poets. The juice was going to run out no matter what at some point before being refilled down the road.
zoldyck Posted July 5 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, judaskills said: Okay, her new album definitely has something going on with Hell. She's said it one too many times now lol. uggh I hope lead single video is set in hell not in some desert like (stupid love and perfect illusion). I will act like it is continuation of 911 video where she didn't survive the accident
zoldyck Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Since Gaga ain't giving us LG7, can some creative monster do this for us (including tracks name) since we don't even have those 1
Miracle Posted July 5 Posted July 5 36 minutes ago, Aden said: As much as I think that Artpop and Joanne are solid records as pop albums, you can tell they lacked the edge and creative cohesion she brought with her first three albums. You could sense the lack of confidence in the music, the roll-outs, the performances, the interviews, etc. Thankfully it built back up over time. ASIB's colossal success must have been a HUGE relief for her because it was such a risk. And even though Chromatica is not without its respective faults, it's the most confident pop form of Gaga we've seen since 2013. I don't want to get ahead of myself but LG7 gives off the vibes of being an excellent record. I'm merely going off of how confident she looked and sounded at the Chromatica Ball Premiere. I think her success as an actress also helped built her creative confidence back up. I don't think ARTPOP lacked edge or creativity...its her most experimental album along BTW and probably more, it's just less succesful in the execution 1
Miracle Posted July 5 Posted July 5 In a way, it makes sense that Gaga will be the last big pop girl to release this year (Reputation TV doesn't count)...all the spotlight to HER
Daglazzo Posted July 5 Posted July 5 29 minutes ago, zoldyck said: uggh I hope lead single video is set in hell not in some desert like (stupid love and perfect illusion). I will act like it is continuation of 911 video where she didn't survive the accident Me too but only if it's high budget video, I want to see good cgi and amazing costumes, lots of brutality and sexuality
LykkeLi Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Hm it kinda makes sense to use the promo pre-joker (august till sept) for LG7. I'm being hopeful but using the performance slot while doing an interview that promotes the movie AND the album is just *chef's kiss* bobby is onto something… 2
Daglazzo Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Im kinda afraid she'll go silent again till October right after last jazz show really I am 1
ViviLittleM Posted July 5 Posted July 5 thanks god we got the traumatica ball movie because 2024 Gagawise has been really boring 3
Popular Post Illuminati Posted July 5 Popular Post Posted July 5 That raid gif has been living in my head all day 1 25
Namiskine Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Aston Martin said: I haven't seen TLaTL yet, but it's so sad to hear that she apparently wasn't trusting herself or her creative choices during this period of her life. Like she was coming off of Born This Way of all albums, any one of us would probably be extremely trusting in our own creative instincts if we had just released an album that strong. We really are our own harshest critics To be fair, she did release such an excellent magnum opus as Born This Way and clearly didn't get a tenth of the recognition she should have gotten at the time. It all started with BTW (single) and months of Madonna comparisons & the whole MDNA marketing campaign being about 'She's not me'. Then went the Judas backlash and censorship. The album release did manage to have a huge first week, but even that went partly against her with the $1 controversy and Billboard's quick change of their rules when they used to adapt quickly and not let artists manipulate chart for months. She ended the era with Marry the Night being an unfortunate flop, because literally everyone was turning against her. She was so big everyone wanted her to fail, and was discrediting everything she was doing. Not even her manager was there to support her. ARTPOP could've literally been anything, it would have happened the same way. We definitely can tell when comparing interviews from back then v. from up to Chromatica era that she lost a lot of confidence and became her harshest critic, but there was way worse out there in 2011-13. 10 2
Infernal Paradise Posted July 5 Posted July 5 14 minutes ago, Illuminati said: That raid gif has been living in my head all day One of my proudest contributions to the base. 2 1 8
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