yonsé Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: Guys I’m not sure how to post a picture from Instagram but there’s this page on there that seems to be a jewelry brand. They posted an email chain with the subject line “BEYONCÉ CONFIDENTIAL VISUAL PROJECT” and Akerlund is one of the people CC’d ?? The Instagram is @mordekaiofficial. Someone who is tech savvy can screenshot it and post it in here? https://www.instagram.com/p/CeezcrQgCs9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= i dont think the GWORLS are paying attention to this. i told y'all she was filming!!
swissman Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: Guys I’m not sure how to post a picture from Instagram but there’s this page on there that seems to be a jewelry brand. They posted an email chain with the subject line “BEYONCÉ CONFIDENTIAL VISUAL PROJECT” and Akerlund is one of the people CC’d ?? The Instagram is @mordekaiofficial. Someone who is tech savvy can screenshot it and post it in here? https://www.instagram.com/p/CeezcrQgCs9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= what people don't realize is that Beyoncé's team likely hired B (Akerlund, the stylist), gave her a budget, and then it is the stylist's job to work within that budget. Beyoncé is not going to give a stylist her credit card and say "use it as you need." A stylist can make expense requests to their client, but generally will need to use their own money or any fees they received up-front to cover it before being reimbursed later. If she has already planned to use the money for other items, if this is a "nice to have" not an intengral piece, why would a stylist spend money to have it when they could start by asking to do what is a very standard practice in the styling industry....pulling clothing. Yes, often a stylist will even purchase the clothing and then return it, but again, this is the stylist's decision not to do that, not Beyoncé's herself. the way that people always assume everything she's attached and everyone working with/for her is working with her direct instructions is silly. Edited June 7, 2022 by swissman
suneclipse121 Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Okay but the real story here is the jeweler is pissed he's being asked to work for free and I don't blame him The B referenced isn't Bey at least, it's Jonas's wife. I know ?? But like @swissman said it’s not as simple as the owner is making it out to be. And Bey probably doesn’t even know that this exchange happened… Definitely blowing it up for clout.
swissman Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, suneclipse121 said: I know ?? But like @swissman said it’s not as simple as the owner is making it out to be. And Bey probably doesn’t even know that this exchange happened… Definitely blowing it up for clout. exactly and on top of that, it doesn't seem like they are commissioning anything, just asking to use items which is quite common in styling. It's called a "pull" not a "purchase" for that very reason. most often, big stylists are even working with samples, things that are not even on sale to begin with so the culture/standards are there in the industry and while this may disservice smaller brands, this is not the simple fact that a Billionaire doesn't want to rent some jewelry.
ShouldersSideways Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 If they're still planning we're probably a couple months out, but in an ideal world the single is ready to go and they're finishing a film
ShouldersSideways Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: I know ?? But like @swissman said it’s not as simple as the owner is making it out to be. And Bey probably doesn’t even know that this exchange happened… Definitely blowing it up for clout. Oh 100%. It also goes to show how frankly stupid people are because no one read it correctly and are already blaming Beyonce in the comments. He specifically said B wasn't Beyonce. It's B. Akerlund.
swissman Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 the problem with thinking any one production means new music is that now she has like 3-4 productions a year for IVYPARK too.
jadeabove Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) I really doubt someone is dense enough to type in the subject line of an email, the actual content of the confidential email. This is just a professional faux-pas. Like "SECRET BEYONCÉ VISUAL PROJECT" in a subject line, is just absurd. Not only did you reveal the name of the client, you have also revealed the content that is being worked on. It sounds like a very not safe thing to do, especially when you sign those ironclad NDAs Beyoncé probably sends to every collaborator. This email is either photoshopped, it's a spam/phishing/fraud, or this B collaborator is very very very very very very very very very very unprofessional. Edited June 7, 2022 by jadeabove
suneclipse121 Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, jadeabove said: I really doubt someone is dense enough to type in the subject line of an email, the actual content of the confidential email. This is just a professional faux-pas. Like "SECRET BEYONCÉ VISUAL PROJECT" in a subject line, is just absurd. Not only did you reveal the name of the client, you have also revealed the content that is being worked on. It sounds like a very not safe thing to do, especially when you sign those ironclad NDAs Beyoncé probably sends to every collaborator. This email is either photoshopped, it's a spam/phishing/fraud, or this B collaborator is very very very very very very very very very very unprofessional. You’re definitely right it all seems very sloppy and unprofessional… The only thing that stood out to me was Akerlund since we know she’s worked with Beyoncé before and she is a stylist. So I connected the dots. Edited June 7, 2022 by suneclipse121
BnPac Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, yonsé said: i dont think the GWORLS are paying attention to this. i told y'all she was filming!! But he did call Beyoncé out twice and also the billionaire's dig is definitely aimed at her. He used the hastags beyoncé, beyhive, notyourfanclub clearly to have her dragged and knowing it would make rounds. He could have just called out the stylist without bringing B into this. Those people are weird. Edited June 7, 2022 by BnPac
BnPac Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 The Gift is a side project, it's an album with 4 songs where she doesn't even appear. And how many solo songs are there? 4? It's something that she worked around a movie to salute Africa, could it have been more successful? Yes. Could it have been better handled? Yes. Black Is King is clearly an idea that came later and as delusional as she is, there is no way she expected it to be a success after the album completed bombed and making it a Disney's exclusive. Let's not rewrite history, she is a damn artist for dedicating that amount of vision, resources for a project she knew was dead on arrival. A visual for an album people dragged and barely lasted 5 weeks (?) on BB200. This is also not new for Bey. Dreamgirls' was also a side project and Listen was a side soundtrack yet it had countless different videos, an English and Spanish version. Cadillac Records was also a side project. Whether The Gift had had The Bodyguard's success, it would still remain a side project. Just like The Bodyguard and The Paster's wife were Whit's side project. One was just incredibly successful. Now maybe it shows the limitations of Parkwood and that B just doesn't care anymore or maybe she's just over (which I doubt) then one just has to come to terms with that, sadly.
yonsé Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, jadeabove said: I really doubt someone is dense enough to type in the subject line of an email, the actual content of the confidential email. This is just a professional faux-pas. Like "SECRET BEYONCÉ VISUAL PROJECT" in a subject line, is just absurd. Not only did you reveal the name of the client, you have also revealed the content that is being worked on. It sounds like a very not safe thing to do, especially when you sign those ironclad NDAs Beyoncé probably sends to every collaborator. This email is either photoshopped, it's a spam/phishing/fraud, or this B collaborator is very very very very very very very very very very unprofessional. youre not supposed to share emails like this. i recieve work emails for commercial projects that i signed NDAs for that have subject lines such as these. this person is definitely liable to be sued so that post will definitely disappear.
jadeabove Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, yonsé said: youre not supposed to share emails like this. i recieve work emails for commercial projects that i signed NDAs for that have subject lines such as these. this person is definitely liable to be sued so that post will definitely disappear. I have worked for a record label in Canada, with high profile clients, and I have never seen anyone ever using a subject line as detailed externally. This is so absurd.
Cbreezy Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Sigh...more squabbling lol. Weighing in. There's truth on both sides IMO. Albeit in different doses. The Gift IS a side-project IMO. From the very specific set of features to the limited/nominal promo at the time of its arrival, nothing (at all) gave the perception or effort of a "mainstream Beyonce album drop". Nothing. I get how this is a convenient "excuse" from success-hungry fans (of which I am one of), but it's also objective fact. At the same time, I think both the EIL and TG sales had our girl thinking "WTF". I imagine the internal expectation was that TG would sell on her name and the success of the movie... which it didn't. She was humbled. That, IMO, is when and why BIK was born. It's totally easy to see why her leaning in and being "seen" to "try" to give the album a jolt with a full fledged film has some now seeing it as a "full album release". But it really wasn't. BIK, much as I love it (and think it one of her best offerings ever), has kind of distorted the established templates we've come to know from her and the demarkation between her solo releases and "extra curricular" activities. Before BIK, the "visual album" seemed like a reserved format for her all-at-once big solo drops (new music + visuals). IMO, the whole film a year after the music thing diluted the effectiveness of both. Not to mention the arguably mismatched platform (Disney+ isn't her audience and was super new at the time). I high-key believe that may be "some" of reason for the lengthy gap. She has to let the visual album concept breath a little. She can't be dropping visual albums back to back...which is literally what would have been the case had we got B7 in 2020 or even 2021. It loses its effectiveness if she does that.
Cbreezy Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, yonsé said: i dont think the GWORLS are paying attention to this. i told y'all she was filming!! This is WILD...the fact we're even seeing this. Very unprofessional on the part of the brand. Like others have said, this isn't on Bey herself. On the up side, amazing to have yet more confirmation that she's coming. If they are still planning and shooting vids (which is clearly the case), I think this ought to revise any kind of timelines we were debating. With post-production etc, I think we're looking at Q4 at the earliest and a tour in Spring 2023. Or everything all at once in early 2023. All of which I'm fine with. Sewing together all we know so far, it really seems like they are lining everything up the right way for a full launch. The visuals (which is now standardfare for her solo drops) and physical formats like vinyls (which we know she was taking meetings for ages ago and require long lead-ins production wise).
HausofArtpopII Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 im actually happy to wait till 2023 cause we have a possible date now, her old albums are keeping me fed and im binging a bunch of albums rn so ill last
*-ChriZ-* Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, HausofArtpopII said: im actually happy to wait till 2023 cause we have a possible date now, her old albums are keeping me fed and im binging a bunch of albums rn so ill last I really would prefer to not hear from her till the release of whatever comes in FULL BEAST mode instead of having her post sprinklets somewhere due to paps. That annoys me beyond measure. Really go ghost until u decide to pop back up. But then, come with a vengeance.
HausofArtpopII Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, *-ChriZ-* said: I really would prefer to not hear from her till the release of whatever comes in FULL BEAST mode instead of having her post sprinklets somewhere due to paps. That annoys me beyond measure. Really go ghost until u decide to pop back up. But then, come with a vengeance. this would be amazing but we know how she is tbh, i find it hilarious but having her go ghost till the album & tour would be amazing
HausofArtpopII Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, G'Day said: Do we forget that she’s going to be posting again the second there’s another big IVP drop to promote? oooh right, this seems like a big drop so im not worried, i always love those visuals
yonsé Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jadeabove said: I have worked for a record label in Canada, with high profile clients, and I have never seen anyone ever using a subject line as detailed externally. This is so absurd. okay well i work as an art director in LA. i get emails that say "CONFIDENTIAL - (project subject)" all the time lol...its much rarer that i work on productions that use codenames to specify their work. it's because it's all internal and shouldn't be shared outside of their private server. like i said its a suable offense lol
giRLbye. Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cbreezy said: At the same time, I think both the EIL and TG sales had our girl thinking "WTF". I imagine the internal expectation was that TG would sell on her name and the success of the movie... which it didn't. She was humbled. That, IMO, is when and why BIK was born. As much as yall want this to be true in hopes that everything gets done right for B7 pop success...there's really no evidence to support this line of thinking. It's actually shows the opposite. If she had big success expectations for either album & was shell shocked...both of those eras would've carried out differently than they did. No follow-up singles for EIL & it taking them a month for them to even incorporate songs from it into their current tour. No TG performances or videos uploaded to create awareness?? It's not giving shocked & downtrodden for success. Very far cry from the Beyonce that pushed songs everywhere until they couldn't be pushed anymore. Those projects served their purpose...to promote the joint tour & the love letter passion project to give her musical legacy more substance than ass shaking pop songs. Edited June 7, 2022 by giRLbye.
Cbreezy Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jadeabove said: I have worked for a record label in Canada, with high profile clients, and I have never seen anyone ever using a subject line as detailed externally. This is so absurd. 8 minutes ago, yonsé said: okay well i work as an art director in LA. i get emails that say "CONFIDENTIAL - (project subject)" all the time lol...its much rarer that i work on productions that use codenames to specify their work. it's because it's all internal and shouldn't be shared outside of their private server. like i said its a suable offense lol Really interesting insights. The email seems very legit, especially as a first point of call to get recipients' attention (Beyonce!). Could imagine a scenario where it moves to codenames when brand is on-board.
ShouldersSideways Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 I don't think it means we have to wait until fall or 2023. We don't know her method this time and are assuming she's going to drop an entire project at once. They may be working on a single or even chapter one of an album (releasing several songs at once as an episode on Netflix) that could come this summer.
Angel94 Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 There is another person on Twitter that said her friend who is a designer was going to dress Beyoncé she is definetily shooting something but we dont know when it is coming . Remember she recorded Formation 2 weeks before its release. i can see she coming in some weeks.
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