Calypso Posted January 14 Posted January 14 7 minutes ago, Redporus said: The announcement is postponed INDEFINITELY YOU ARE THE NEW DATE BABY 4
Tripthelight Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Postponing the announcement is the right thing to do. But waiting til midnight (the day of) is so foul. I give Bey a lot of grace, ignoring most of her questionable decisions, but I've reached my limit with this. As a fan (and consumer of every side venture), I need more from her and her team. 1
satellites.™ Posted January 14 Posted January 14 7 hours ago, Anvarie said: The Weeknd canceled his rose bowl show and postponed his album 6 hours ago And as usual, these days she is FOLLOWING instead if LEADING. 1
Matangi Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 minutes ago, Tripthelight said: Postponing the announcement is the right thing to do. But waiting til midnight (the day of) is so foul. I give Bey a lot of grace, ignoring most of her questionable decisions, but I've reached my limit with this. As a fan (and consumer of every side venture), I need more from her and her team. I really think they waited with their final decision until the last minute possible. 3
Matangi Posted January 14 Posted January 14 31 minutes ago, holyground13 said: apparently Songkick may have leaked it is a tour Same venue as the RTW the tour announcement is definitely coming very soon
SickLove Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Devin said: i figured it will be a documentary or some kinda rodeo performance. personally idk why abel postponed his entire album if its already shipped and ready. Because he plans to perform at the Rose Bowl the day of album release, plus apparently one of his team members lost their house in the fires so he probably doesnt want them to worry about work while all of this is happening
TizTiz Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Kingdom said: There are other people to stan that give you exactly what you want. You can always do that Why? 1
Comedor Posted January 14 Posted January 14 25 minutes ago, getBusy said: You are the announcement, baby This ******* meme will haunt us forever isn't it, ugh. 2
Shelter Posted January 14 Posted January 14 55 minutes ago, Augmented said: There IS a single date showing in Chicago for Friday 12th September 2025 so Lol dates leaking. At least we know now, I don't get why she waited 3 weeks to announce it and now it will be longer.
TizTiz Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, alien superstore said: I get where you're coming from. This is all being really badly handled, and pressure on Team Bey must be at an all-time high. Let's not forget the controversies that have plagued her this era: - Cecred Natural Hair Discourse - American Nationalism Discourse - Country Radio Shutout - CMA Awards Snub - Diddy Scandal + She Knows trend (ongoing) - Beyince Vinyl Pre-Order - Delayed Proper Vinyl Release - Delayed Art Book til February - Sphere Residency Fall-out - Jay-Z Allegations (ongoing) - Cowboy Carter flailing on charts far too fast - Trump re-election (she was prominent in the Harris campaign) - LA Fires impacting her personally and contributing to this delay This whole era just feels cursed. The frustrating thing as a fan is she is sitting on projects ready-for-release that she could just release out of the blue on streaming services that would majorly satisfy her fans. Visuals for Cowboy Carter, a live album from the RWT, a RWT Film streaming release, etc etc. It's only going to get worse! If she does plan to go on tour, the ticket will start at $4K and if she plans to prefer the album like RENI, the show won't pick up until the after an hour and a half🤣❗️ The vinyl and artbook delays lashings are deserved❗️ 1 1
Kalmanta Posted January 14 Posted January 14 She most likely scrapped the announcement last minute to draw attention to BeyGood and the Fire Relief Fund, I don't think that decision was made a few hours ago.
TizTiz Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, satellites.™ said: This is ALL true and yall can be mad as you want, but as someone who has been a stan for DECADES, this all feels like someone who is not Beyonce and we notice it. This trilogy era has been TACKY af and her and the team have been downright disrespectful with the way they've communicated with us, especially since when they are ready, they're hoping we jump up and buy $300 jean jackets, hair products, whiskey, and other stupid ****. If she treated her music like the bullshit she sells us every month, it would make more sense, but no. I've been a fan, literally, since 2000. I didn't know were still get our fan cards punch every time we don't like a dumb decision, mines should be maxed out since March🤣❗️ The Trilogy has been treated like a passion project she's being forced to release and not as some of the greatest music she's ever recorded, but we should be used to her doing absolutely nothing, because doing the bare minimum was too much, grateful she still exists and take the crumbs she feeds us, because apparently there are other artist, of her caliber ALIVE, that we could stan. Edited January 14 by TizTiz 1 1
BnPac Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Augmented said: There IS a single date showing in Chicago for Friday 12th September 2025 so 1 hour ago, holyground13 said: https://www.songkick.com/concerts/42368508-beyonce-at-soldier-field I knew a tour was a given. I suppose she wanted to announce multiple things at once, probably a new era with it. Still I wish the tour had been announced right after Beyoncébowl. It didn't have to be on sale right away. September in the US is the usual schedule, May-August in Europe when her kids are out of school and she comes back in the States when they go back to school and tour a couple of months only during the beginning of their school year. Edited January 14 by BnPac
sillycilla Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1. Definitely the right decision, no one faults her for that. 2. However waiting until the 14th was in poor taste and bad management. That update was ready upon the clock striking 12. So they knew. We were all anticipating it was going to be postponed but NATURALLY with no communication and the announcement date inching closer people carried on as normal and so did the media with expecting everything to go forward. That is on Parkwood. 3. She could have also postponed with a date like the weekend and entertainment shows have. Leaving it up in the air is just silly. 4. What's interesting is that I think a lot of people were actually looking forward to the distraction. It's been a horrible and emotional new start to 2025 especially in the US, the entertainment sites and media were hyped. It's also part of why everyone is embracing bad bunny right now despite everything going on around us. 5. Relax, it's obvious whatever the announcement is; it's not JUST a tour—she's not going to personally ruin your lives (yet). Maybe try unclenching; there'll be something for everyone, even the haters.
swissman Posted January 14 Posted January 14 50 minutes ago, Matangi said: I really think they waited with their final decision until the last minute possible. THIS. Not to mention, would knowing 2 days ago have been any different? How would that change things? If you cancelled plans to sit at home and wait until midnight (or whatever, and I too purposefully choose not to go to bed until after 12), that's a choice you made and not one you at all needed to have done in order to have enjoyed whatever she was going to announce (and for all we know it could have been a vegan cookbook). Her announcing a delay at the time she promised an announcement is also the cleanest way to have done it. Beyoncé is not one to push things back once a date is attached to it. It's not even like we've been waiting months for this date. It was teased a mere three weeks ago. Anyway, not to be that Hive again, as I know I'm always the one to be like "guys it's not that big of a deal, who cares? let her be!" but honestly if you don't understand the way she works by now, or if you do an you hate it so much, that's a problem you need to solve in stanning Beyoncé because there's no indication that she's changing how she functions in her own career just because fans want things sooner that they haven't even paid for. 4 1 1
sillycilla Posted January 14 Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, TizTiz said: I've been a fan, literally, since 2000. I didn't know were still get our fan cards punch every time we don't like a dumb decision, mines should be maxed out since March🤣❗️ The Trilogy has been treated like a passion project she's being forced to release and not as some of the greatest music she's ever recorded, but we should be used to her doing absolutely nothing, because doing the bare minimum was too much, grateful she still exists and take the crumbs she feeds us, because apparently there are other artist, of her caliber ALIVE, that we could stan. Facts. She called it the greatest music she's ever made, yet acts like she's hiding it in the back of her closet. No wonder fans are ready to move on from eras she clearly couldn't care less about. If she's not interested in doing anything with it, she could at least pull a Miley and say so. But nope, she's out here quietly pushing for Grammy nods while ignoring the fans who've supported her for years. Honestly, she seems to care about the Grammys more than giving her fans an era worth remembering. She literally ignored the album for 10 months and showed up at the end of the year "for your consideration" performance and to gin up a tour announcement. 1 1
swissman Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, satellites.™ said: This is ALL true and yall can be mad as you want, but as someone who has been a stan for DECADES, this all feels like someone who is not Beyonce and we notice it. This trilogy era has been TACKY af and her and the team have been downright disrespectful with the way they've communicated with us, especially since when they are ready, they're hoping we jump up and buy $300 jean jackets, hair products, whiskey, and other stupid ****. If she treated her music like the bullshit she sells us every month, it would make more sense, but no. I don't agree the trilogy has been tacky at all. Perhaps you just mean it in a non-literal sense, but the rollout, however "messy" we take it to be in relation to traditional rollouts, also is one of complete confidence in her work and utter disregard for the simplest things she can do to guarantee commercial success, thereby very much making these eras more about the music than the marketing. There's not a single artist amongst her peers or the newer generation who has launched two albums with not one music video, for example. That's just not the way to do things, even if music videos hold less importance than they have in a long while. She's letting the works largely speak for themselves, and they do...the music is great, that should be fine to do for a woman of her success level and industry dominance. And to me, that's not tacky. That said, there is a lot of side marketing going on throughout the eras (the products she's selling) but of course those things are going to be marketed and promoted more than the music. It's no secret that for Beyoncé, music is more art than commerce now. It's been this way for a while but the Trilogy and the way she's marketed it shows that explicitly. There's a reason why the CC vinyl was one of the most personally promoted aspects of the whole era. It's because there's a limited quantity that needs to sell. She doesn't need to sell digital music or streams, and so she doesn't push for it. And that's why she's pushing the sales of her parfums, whiskey, hair line, etc. They need to sell. Not selling that many digital albums may make it a flop, but back stock is losing money. That's the key difference here and one I think needs to be considered when we ask "WHY" she is marketing those things vs. her own music.
jadeabove Posted January 14 Posted January 14 7 minutes ago, swissman said: I don't agree the trilogy has been tacky at all. Perhaps you just mean it in a non-literal sense, but the rollout, however "messy" we take it to be in relation to traditional rollouts, also is one of complete confidence in her work and utter disregard for the simplest things she can do to guarantee commercial success, thereby very much making these eras more about the music than the marketing. There's not a single artist amongst her peers or the newer generation who has launched two albums with not one music video, for example. That's just not the way to do things, even if music videos hold less importance than they have in a long while. She's letting the works largely speak for themselves, and they do...the music is great, that should be fine to do for a woman of her success level and industry dominance. And to me, that's not tacky. That said, there is a lot of side marketing going on throughout the eras (the products she's selling) but of course those things are going to be marketed and promoted more than the music. It's no secret that for Beyoncé, music is more art than commerce now. It's been this way for a while but the Trilogy and the way she's marketed it shows that explicitly. There's a reason why the CC vinyl was one of the most personally promoted aspects of the whole era. It's because there's a limited quantity that needs to sell. She doesn't need to sell digital music or streams, and so she doesn't push for it. And that's why she's pushing the sales of her parfums, whiskey, hair line, etc. They need to sell. Not selling that many digital albums may make it a flop, but back stock is losing money. That's the key difference here and one I think needs to be considered when we ask "WHY" she is marketing those things vs. her own music. It's literally all marketing. I love B, but her approach lately has been marketing and creating storylines before the audience does. She created a narrative to frame the actions going forward but yeah, it's clear to me that there have been misses.
swissman Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, TizTiz said: On top of that, nothing about this trilogy has even been finished besides being scheduled, besides RENI's album and concert film, and that was only because of a premiere date. Things that have been finished and scheduled regarding this Trilogy, besides REN album and concert film: BREAK MY SOUL single release Renaissance Tour BREAK MY SOUL remix CUFF IT REMIX AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM remix MY HOUSE single release Concert film LA and London premieres Beyoncé Super Bowl commercial TEXAS HOLD 'EM + 16 CARRIAGES single release COWBOY CARTER album release PONY UP remix COWBOY CARTER standard vinyl release LEVI'S COMMERCIAL (essentially a lil promo for the associated song) BEYONCÉ BOWL Now, I'm sure people will say this isn't enough, or nitpick the list and say "that's nothing" or "the bare minimum" but I don't think its fair to say [hyperbolically or not] that "nothing about this trilogy has even been finished" when in fact, plenty has. [And also this list is comprised of things similar in nature to the two examples preceded by "besides..." thereby making them all just as eligible as an answer]. Edited January 14 by swissman 4
swissman Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, jadeabove said: It's literally all marketing. I love B, but her approach lately has been marketing and creating storylines before the audience does. She created a narrative to frame the actions going forward but yeah, it's clear to me that there have been misses. For sure, but this is something she'd done since 2013, continued with Lemonade, and is still doing now. If the way she works brings you great stress, upset, and annoyance, maybe it's time to change how you look at it if you still want to feel excitement, happiness and contentedness in stanning Beyoncé. I think as fans at some point we need to either accept it for our own sake, ignore it for the same reason, or move on. I don't negate that there are missed opportunities in her last decade and certainly her last eras, I just think being burdened by them is silly. 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I think there's a fire element to whatever she wanted to release today, whether its a visual element or a title 1
jadeabove Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, swissman said: For sure, but this is something she'd done since 2013, continued with Lemonade, and is still doing now. If the way she works brings you great stress, upset, and annoyance, maybe it's time to change how you look at it if you still want to feel excitement, happiness and contentedness in stanning Beyoncé. I think as fans at some point we need to either accept it for our own sake, ignore it for the same reason, or move on. I don't negate that there are missed opportunities in her last decade and certainly her last eras, I just think being burdened by them is silly. Oh no I'm not particularly annoyed by this delay to be honest… but to say Beyonce is not using marketing to create narratives is a bit delusional in my perspective. Beyonce, the product, is entirely marketing. The proof is that people do not know Beyonce the person much, just the performer. The focus is put on her and her music as a product.
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