charts discussion HDD: Adele 833k (biggest debut of the year), Taylor 165k

[Brando]

42 minutes ago, Renan90 said:

SPS

Chart Date: 11/26/2021 (WEEK ENDING: 11/25/2021)
MARKETSHARE: SME 50% UMG 37% WMG 13%

Status: Final

LW	TW	ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL	TOTAL	CHANGE	ALBUMS	TEA	SEA
-- 1 ADELE | 30 COLUMBIA			837,943	--	678,872	6,380	152,690
1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT | RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC			168,819	-72%	68,062	1,516	99,241
5 3 DRAKE | CERTIFIED LOVER BOY OVO/REPUBLIC			53,028	-8%	347	454	52,227
2 4 BRUNO MARS, ANDERSON .PAAK & SILK SONIC | AN EVENING WITH SILK SONIC AFTERMATH/ATLANTIC			50,301	-51%	15,266	907	34,128
6 5 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/REPUBLIC			47,977	10%	2,422	904	44,652
4 6 SUMMER WALKER | STILL OVER IT LVRN/INTERSCOPE			45,806	-26%	1,377	291	44,138
11 7 OLIVIA RODRIGO | SOUR GEFFEN			38,237	20%	11,915	614	25,708
21 8 MICHAEL BUBLE | CHRISTMAS REPRISE			37,807	74%	11,528	616	25,663
8 9 ED SHEERAN | = ATLANTIC			36,344	-4%	11,889	1,476	22,980
-- 10 ROBERT PLANT & ALISON KRAUSS | RAISE THE ROOF ROUNDER			36,029	--	33,599	712	1,719
-- 11 THE WEEKND | THE HIGHLIGHTS XO/REPUBLIC			35,489	--	5,320	637	29,532
9 12 DOJA CAT | PLANET HER KEMOSABE/RCA			34,949	-3%	325	755	33,870
10 13 KANYE WEST | DONDA G.O.O.D./DEF JAM			27,464	-23%	239	349	26,876
18 14 BILLIE EILISH | HAPPIER THAN EVER DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE			27,168	13%	11,793	220	15,156
-- 15 TWENTY ONE PILOTS | SCALED AND ICY FUELED BY RAMEN			26,229	--	22,385	109	3,735
16 16 LIL NAS X | MONTERO COLUMBIA			24,437	-4%	204	636	23,597
15 17 THE KID LAROI | F*CK LOVE COLUMBIA			24,392	-5%	93	597	23,702
14 18 YOUNGBOY NEVER BROKE AGAIN | SINCERELY, KENTRELL NEVER BROKE AGAIN/ATLANTIC			23,568	-15%	395	236	22,938
19 19 LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE			22,744	-2%	2,136	560	20,049
3 20 TWICE | FORMULA OF LOVE: 3 JYP/IMPERIAL/REPUBLIC			21,919	-66%	17,169	93	4,656
33 21 HARRY STYLES | FINE LINE COLUMBIA			21,006	16%	8,137	228	12,641
22 22 ROD WAVE | SOULFLY ALAMO/SME			20,751	-3%	137	120	20,493
23 23 ADELE | 25 XL/BEGGARS			20,273	-3%	4,014	720	15,539
50 24 MARIAH CAREY | MERRY CHRISTMAS COLUMBIA			20,118	40%	3,895	535	15,688
27 25 LIL BABY | MY TURN QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL			19,995	-1%	213	196	19,587
31 26 TAYLOR SWIFT | EVERMORE REPUBLIC			19,424	6%	9,626	101	9,697
40 27 TAYLOR SWIFT | LOVER REPUBLIC			19,174	13%	8,868	104	10,201
28 28 POP SMOKE | SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC			19,148	-4%	636	184	18,328
17 29 TAYLOR SWIFT | FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC			19,138	-24%	11,264	82	7,792
43 30 QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 HOLLYWOOD			19,136	16%	6,338	447	12,351
35 31 ADELE | 21 XL/BEGGARS			18,885	6%	5,134	750	13,001
24 32 MONEYBAGG YO | A GANGSTA'S PAIN CMG/N-LESS/INTERSCOPE			18,636	-9%	263	523	17,849
-- 33 VINCE GUARALDI TRIO | CHARLIE BROWN CHRISTMAS CONCORD			18,341	--	8,750	173	9,418
-- 34 NAT KING COLE | CHRISTMAS SONG CAPITOL			18,326	--	3,280	166	14,881
7 35 JASON ALDEAN | MACON BROKEN BOW			17,758	-53%	6,490	1,072	10,196
25 36 TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE REPUBLIC			17,755	-12%	6,020	126	11,608
36 37 JUSTIN BIEBER | JUSTICE RBMG/DEF JAM			17,645	0%	1,705	503	15,436
34 38 POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING REPUBLIC			17,252	-3%	384	201	16,667
32 39 JUICE WRLD | LEGENDS NEVER DIE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE			17,068	-6%	550	100	16,418
-- 40 PENTATONIX | THE BEST OF PENTATONIX CHRISTMAS RCA			16,886	--	5,295	377	11,214
30 41 CHRIS STAPLETON | STARTING OVER MERCURY NASHVILLE			16,830	-15%	4,889	714	11,227
37 42 JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE			16,474	-6%	195	88	16,191
42 43 DUA LIPA | FUTURE NOSTALGIA WARNER			16,409	-2%	1,033	510	14,865
-- 44 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E STREET BAND | THE LEGENDARY 1979 NO NUKES CONCERTS COLUMBIA			16,287	--	15,695	48	545
-- 45 PHIL SPECTOR | CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR YOU LEGACY			15,908	--	247	85	15,577
-- 46 FLEETWOOD MAC | RUMOURS WARNER			15,837	--	4,854	250	10,733
39 47 BABY KEEM | THE MELODIC BLUE PGLANG/COLUMBIA			15,631	-10%	31	78	15,523
-- 48 HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST UPTOWN/ATLANTIC			15,036	--	1,942	82	13,012
47 49 LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE			15,030	-2%	1,336	258	13,435
-- 50 ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS ISLAND			14,887	--	3,392	458	11,037

 

https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

Not Taylor's catalogue getting a much more massive boost despite there being many more albums available. 

 

Did 21 make it into the Top 10 when 25 was released? 

[blackbeatxx]

37 minutes ago, Brando said:

Not Taylor's catalogue getting a much more massive boost despite there being many more albums available. 

 

Did 21 make it into the Top 10 when 25 was released? 

Iirc 21 got into top 10 the very week of 25’s release yeah.

i think 21 is pretty impressive this week tho, with all those sales and everything and being almost 11 years old it almost made top 30 and 19k.

[brianc33710]

1 hour ago, family.guy123 said:

so her pure sales alone would be enough for the highest week of the year right? and also the highest week under the current BB200 rules so far?

Yeah 680k is enough to be the biggest week alone. I had expected more than this though. I don't know if losing Thanksgiving Day (stores closed) cost her many albums. Lets see how Black Friday affects 30 & see how 30 does week 2.

[MardinBeksloy]

4 hours ago, Renan90 said:

SPS

Chart Date: 11/26/2021 (WEEK ENDING: 11/25/2021)
MARKETSHARE: SME 50% UMG 37% WMG 13%

Status: Final

LW	TW	ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL	TOTAL	CHANGE	ALBUMS	TEA	SEA
-- 1 ADELE | 30 COLUMBIA			837,943	--	678,872	6,380	152,690
1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT | RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC			168,819	-72%	68,062	1,516	99,241
5 3 DRAKE | CERTIFIED LOVER BOY OVO/REPUBLIC			53,028	-8%	347	454	52,227
2 4 BRUNO MARS, ANDERSON .PAAK & SILK SONIC | AN EVENING WITH SILK SONIC AFTERMATH/ATLANTIC			50,301	-51%	15,266	907	34,128
6 5 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/REPUBLIC			47,977	10%	2,422	904	44,652
4 6 SUMMER WALKER | STILL OVER IT LVRN/INTERSCOPE			45,806	-26%	1,377	291	44,138
11 7 OLIVIA RODRIGO | SOUR GEFFEN			38,237	20%	11,915	614	25,708
21 8 MICHAEL BUBLE | CHRISTMAS REPRISE			37,807	74%	11,528	616	25,663
8 9 ED SHEERAN | = ATLANTIC			36,344	-4%	11,889	1,476	22,980
-- 10 ROBERT PLANT & ALISON KRAUSS | RAISE THE ROOF ROUNDER			36,029	--	33,599	712	1,719
-- 11 THE WEEKND | THE HIGHLIGHTS XO/REPUBLIC			35,489	--	5,320	637	29,532
9 12 DOJA CAT | PLANET HER KEMOSABE/RCA			34,949	-3%	325	755	33,870
10 13 KANYE WEST | DONDA G.O.O.D./DEF JAM			27,464	-23%	239	349	26,876
18 14 BILLIE EILISH | HAPPIER THAN EVER DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE			27,168	13%	11,793	220	15,156
-- 15 TWENTY ONE PILOTS | SCALED AND ICY FUELED BY RAMEN			26,229	--	22,385	109	3,735
16 16 LIL NAS X | MONTERO COLUMBIA			24,437	-4%	204	636	23,597
15 17 THE KID LAROI | F*CK LOVE COLUMBIA			24,392	-5%	93	597	23,702
14 18 YOUNGBOY NEVER BROKE AGAIN | SINCERELY, KENTRELL NEVER BROKE AGAIN/ATLANTIC			23,568	-15%	395	236	22,938
19 19 LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE			22,744	-2%	2,136	560	20,049
3 20 TWICE | FORMULA OF LOVE: 3 JYP/IMPERIAL/REPUBLIC			21,919	-66%	17,169	93	4,656
33 21 HARRY STYLES | FINE LINE COLUMBIA			21,006	16%	8,137	228	12,641
22 22 ROD WAVE | SOULFLY ALAMO/SME			20,751	-3%	137	120	20,493
23 23 ADELE | 25 XL/BEGGARS			20,273	-3%	4,014	720	15,539
50 24 MARIAH CAREY | MERRY CHRISTMAS COLUMBIA			20,118	40%	3,895	535	15,688
27 25 LIL BABY | MY TURN QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL			19,995	-1%	213	196	19,587
31 26 TAYLOR SWIFT | EVERMORE REPUBLIC			19,424	6%	9,626	101	9,697
40 27 TAYLOR SWIFT | LOVER REPUBLIC			19,174	13%	8,868	104	10,201
28 28 POP SMOKE | SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC			19,148	-4%	636	184	18,328
17 29 TAYLOR SWIFT | FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC			19,138	-24%	11,264	82	7,792
43 30 QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 HOLLYWOOD			19,136	16%	6,338	447	12,351
35 31 ADELE | 21 XL/BEGGARS			18,885	6%	5,134	750	13,001
24 32 MONEYBAGG YO | A GANGSTA'S PAIN CMG/N-LESS/INTERSCOPE			18,636	-9%	263	523	17,849
-- 33 VINCE GUARALDI TRIO | CHARLIE BROWN CHRISTMAS CONCORD			18,341	--	8,750	173	9,418
-- 34 NAT KING COLE | CHRISTMAS SONG CAPITOL			18,326	--	3,280	166	14,881
7 35 JASON ALDEAN | MACON BROKEN BOW			17,758	-53%	6,490	1,072	10,196
25 36 TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE REPUBLIC			17,755	-12%	6,020	126	11,608
36 37 JUSTIN BIEBER | JUSTICE RBMG/DEF JAM			17,645	0%	1,705	503	15,436
34 38 POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING REPUBLIC			17,252	-3%	384	201	16,667
32 39 JUICE WRLD | LEGENDS NEVER DIE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE			17,068	-6%	550	100	16,418
-- 40 PENTATONIX | THE BEST OF PENTATONIX CHRISTMAS RCA			16,886	--	5,295	377	11,214
30 41 CHRIS STAPLETON | STARTING OVER MERCURY NASHVILLE			16,830	-15%	4,889	714	11,227
37 42 JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE			16,474	-6%	195	88	16,191
42 43 DUA LIPA | FUTURE NOSTALGIA WARNER			16,409	-2%	1,033	510	14,865
-- 44 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E STREET BAND | THE LEGENDARY 1979 NO NUKES CONCERTS COLUMBIA			16,287	--	15,695	48	545
-- 45 PHIL SPECTOR | CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR YOU LEGACY			15,908	--	247	85	15,577
-- 46 FLEETWOOD MAC | RUMOURS WARNER			15,837	--	4,854	250	10,733
39 47 BABY KEEM | THE MELODIC BLUE PGLANG/COLUMBIA			15,631	-10%	31	78	15,523
-- 48 HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST UPTOWN/ATLANTIC			15,036	--	1,942	82	13,012
47 49 LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE			15,030	-2%	1,336	258	13,435
-- 50 ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS ISLAND			14,887	--	3,392	458	11,037

 

https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

Taylor’s still having 5 albums in the top 5  Truly the music industry. 

[Sazare]

16 hours ago, Squall said:

Judging by this, you are the one reaching. It's nothing new that some people use Adele to attack Taylor, just look at Sazare (a Carly stan).

? I’m not using Adele for anything. Please leave me alone

Edited November 27, 2021 by Sazare

[Taylena]

16 hours ago, fridayteenage said:

https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=329387&title=CHART-PREVIEW%3A-ADELE-STREAMS-AHEAD

 

Adele's 30 (Columbia) scores the year's biggest debut by at least 200k. 30 will also become the sixth- or seventh-most-streamed album by a female artist, with U.S. streams expected to finish close to 200m. The wizard known as Taylor Swift holds down three of the Top 5 on that list:

Ariana Grande, thank u, next (Republic): 360m
Taylor Swift, Red (Taylor's Version) (Republic): 281m
Olivia Rodrigo, SOUR (Geffen): 281m
Taylor Swift, folklore (Republic): 272m
Taylor Swift, evermore (Republic): 209m
Summer Walker, Still Over It (LVRN/Interscope): 191m

Will Adele surpass Walker's total? How high will 30's first-week activity go? Check out the HITS Top 50 this afternoon to find out. In the meantime, you may resume your turkey-leftovers odyssey.

 

So her peer in the US is Summer Walker.

TU,N 360m streams? Didn't it do 307m on Billboard? Where's that extra 60m coming from? 

[simmnfierzig]

20 minutes ago, Taylena said:

TU,N 360m streams? Didn't it do 307m on Billboard? Where's that extra 60m coming from? 

Youtube I guess? Wasn part of the BB200 at that time

 

But Billboard also had Red at 303M, folklore at 290M and evermore at 220M

[Solaria]

People saying this is a massive decline from 25... no ****ing ****. After 2015 is when streaming really started to took over and physical sales really died. ATRL lacking context and logical thinking for the 700 millionth time 

[gab00]

it's been like 10 years since 21. she can't repeat the same formula forever and get the same results, so this is natural and yet she's still the biggest artist of them all, but now she's a little more like the rest of the artists in the game

[Illuminati]

22 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

People saying this is a massive decline from 25... no ****ing ****. After 2015 is when streaming really started to took over and physical sales really died. ATRL lacking context and logical thinking for the 700 millionth time 

Didn't Red outstream it? 30 is doing great in sales given the circumstances but it's not a bad take to call it an underperformance in comparison to 25

[Solaria]

2 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

Didn't Red outstream it? 30 is doing great in sales given the circumstances but it's not a bad take to call it an underperformance in comparison to 25

Red also has 30 songs and most of the songs aren't over 6 minutes long. 

 

And this is not an underperformance. An underperformance would be if the album wouldn't debut in the top 5 + doesn't have longevity. And we don't have the stats for the latter one yet.

[simmnfierzig]

2 minutes ago, pieceofgök said:

Red also has 30 songs and most of the songs aren't over 6 minutes long. 

 

And this is not an underperformance. An underperformance would be if the album wouldn't debut in the top 5 + doesn't have longevity. And we don't have the stats for the latter one yet.

So 40k 

Um yeah that would be quite the underperformance

 

 

This is absolutely on the very low end on what could have been expected. And yes obviously nobody expected anything close to 25 numbers. I thought 1.2M was realistic.

But I'm sure she doesn't care too much. Maybe it means the next album will come sooner than in 6 years. 

[WildHeart]

17 hours ago, Gaia said:

All of this mess just from an insecurity that Taylor might not be the #1 female artist in the world? To think Taylor has released like 4 albums in the past 2 years, sold millions of albums, got multiple #1s, billions of streams, etc. and it’s still this easy to send you guys over the edge… that’s some serious insecurity  

The zero self awareness after Adele fans trying to convince people how Taylor's success is fanbase/bundles driven and she can't be on Adele's level and Adele is so much bigger, she is "the real music industry" etc. 

 

Stop projecting 

[Solaria]

Also both sides suck here. OTH's were waiting or 1m+ to immediately hold it against Taylor and Swifties were praying for low numbers to get back at OTH's hiding behind Adele PFPs. Both sides are obsessed with the numbers 

[LiveYourLife]

25 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

The zero self awareness after Adele fans trying to convince people how Taylor's success is fanbase/bundles driven and she can't be on Adele's level and Adele is so much bigger, she is "the real music industry" etc. 

 

Stop projecting 

Are you saying this to generalize all Adele fans? 

[WildHeart]

1 minute ago, LiveYourLife said:

Are you saying this to generalize all Adele fans? 

Of course not. I am talking about the ones who do that. I see that majority of Adele fans don't care but it's always few loud ones(like the person i qouted). 

 

And i am not even blaming one side, that's the result of both sides so blaming one side with insecurity constantly is just ironic at this point, especially if you(not you) are consistently downplaying other artist's success. If you will, just don't complain about the other side. 

[LiveYourLife]

1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Of course not. I am talking about the ones who do that. I see that majority of Adele fans don't care but it's always few loud ones(like the person i qouted). 

 

And i am not even blaming one side, that's the result of both sides so blaming one side with insecurity constantly is just ironic at this point, especially if you(not you) are consistently downplaying other artist's success. If you will, just don't complain about the other side. 

Ohh I’m sorry! I understand now. I was confused since I love both Adele and Taylor and wish there wasn’t any arguing between the bases. 

[Synchronicity]

I was one of the few on here that predicted that she wouldn’t sell 1M first week, unfortunately in today’s industry you can’t take a 6 year break and expect to still be on the same level, Adele is still the biggest selling artist and her records speak for themselves but taking a 6 year break in pop music is a career killer, people have short attention spans these days and they will just move on, even if the music was better I don’t think she would have sold 1M, too much time has passed since 2015. 

[WildHeart]

Just now, LiveYourLife said:

Ohh I’m sorry! I understand now. I was confused since I love both Adele and Taylor and wish there wasn’t any arguing between the bases. 

No that's on me. I should've phrased it better. 

I hope it doesn't last long just for users like you who just mind their business and want some peace during album week. 

[doonerr]

Adele won!

 

Poor others

[Gaia]

4 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said:

The zero self awareness after Adele fans trying to convince people how Taylor's success is fanbase/bundles driven and she can't be on Adele's level and Adele is so much bigger, she is "the real music industry" etc. 

 

Stop projecting 

Sorry but Adele selling 837k without a dedicated fanbase while she has the #1 song in the country in downloads, streaming, and radio while her performance show/interview garnering more interest than award shows, etc. 

 

Yall are grasping at straws. The last time Taylor had a multi week #1 was 2017. 
 

 

[FAN]

6 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Sorry but Adele selling 837k without a dedicated fanbase while she has the #1 song in the country in downloads, streaming, and radio while her performance show/interview garnering more interest than award shows, etc. 

 

Yall are grasping at straws. The last time Taylor had a multi week #1 was 2017. 
 

 

Adele doesn’t have a dedicated fanbase?  There’s life outside of stan Twitter. 

[Gaia]

3 minutes ago, FAN said:

Adele doesn’t have a dedicated fanbase?  There’s life outside of stan Twitter. 

Yes. Dedicated fanbase being people who lack lives who spend their entire day streaming their faves songs and buying multiple albums. You’d have to be completely and utterly delusional to not see the different between Adele and Taylor in terms of fanbase. Adele is just favored by the GP. That’s her “fanbase”

[Headlock]

19 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Sorry but Adele selling 837k without a dedicated fanbase while she has the #1 song in the country in downloads, streaming, and radio while her performance show/interview garnering more interest than award shows, etc. 

 

Yall are grasping at straws. The last time Taylor had a multi week #1 was 2017. 
 

 

Lmao weren't you just fuming at people saying Adele had no real fans, and now you're saying she has no dedicated fanbase 

[aotearoa]

the tank