charts discussion HDD: Adele 833k (biggest debut of the year), Taylor 165k

[CaptainMusic]

The absolute MESS if she does under 800k and predictions lower like Scorpion…

[Rev8]

Swifties here seem really happy

 

 

I mean there was speculation that she would see a large drop in sales

but still would be impressive, so..

 

Wonder how much she will end up selling

[MONSTER NAVY]

1 minute ago, Assassin said:

@Brandois an OAH, wbk

for someone that 'dislikes' her music & adele, his post history suggests otherwise. you'd think perhaps he'd just leave 1 comment and go but no.. every single post is about adele.

 

that's what happens when you are the music industry. even your flop haters can't stop thinking about you. 

[Brando]

3 minutes ago, Cap10Planet said:

Payola for songs is not the same thing as paying for something that has never proven to help sales. Just because you don't like an album doesn't mean that these reviewers were compensated. And you should know that considering Kanye West can't sell **** these days.

Kanye had one of the biggest opening weeks of the year and his album got one lowest ratings of the year. 

 

Anyways, to say that positive reviews don't move some people to buy or at least to check out (aka stream) an album is a huge understatement. Who are they writing them for? For people who bought them already and need the validation of their opinions. Plz don't underestimate the lengths to which labels would go to for their biggest sellers. Publications are just as corrupt as radio stations. You can officially influence them to positively review skincare/haircare products. Nothing stops them from doing the same for music. Obviously Adele is not the only who benefits from this. As you know average review scores went up extremely high in the past few years. 

[infrared]

She really fell off 

[Pop]

14 minutes ago, Brando said:

"I'm single-handedly running the CD world!" proclaimed Adele proudly. 

"She didn't mean it that way.." the label followed up, trying to do damage control. 

 

But they still shipped it....... and it got shipped back

 

 

omg

[MonsterTown]

yes its doing less but still good numbers overall, still a kii for the people using her to drag others.anyway the music still good 

[thismoment]

Are people seriously dragging an artist for selling over 800k in the first week? (without bundles, 17 different versions and merch like others did) 

[By the Water]

6 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

The obsession with the Swifties  

 

None of us truly hate Adele or even care that she's a huge seller. It's just hilarious how this forum hides behind her to drag Taylor and they've been saying it for years only for 30 to sell barely +200k more than Taylor's re-release of a DECADE old album and on par with Lover/folklore. Who are yall gonna hide behind now?

 

But the swifties!!11! I don't remember this energy when the Adele fans created the thread comparing her Oprah special ratings to City of Lover or the 19837382 threads and posts about who is 'the real music industry'

 

[Luckitty]

how many of them are vinyls? 

[MONSTER NAVY]

2 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

You tell me Chromatica and Love For Sale stan

 

maybe adele should quickly take some notes and add ariana grande & blackpink onto '30' to get a couple more streams ?  or for a quick little number 1 hit? 

[BrokenMachine]

1 hour ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

3.48M to 850k   It’ll probably go up since that’s how most HDD predictions go, right?

Did you actually expect her to sell near 3M even with a 6-year-break, the physical market collapsing and the fact that no one has opened with +1M sales in four years ??

[Cap10Planet]

1 minute ago, Brando said:

Kanye had one of the biggest opening weeks of the year and his album got one lowest ratings of the year. 

 

Anyways, to say that positive reviews don't move some people to buy or at least to check out (aka stream) an album is a huge understatement. Who are they writing them for? For people who bought them already and need the validation of their opinions. Plz don't underestimate the lengths to which labels would go to for their biggest sellers. Publications are just as corrupt as radio stations. You can officially influence them to positively review skincare/haircare products. Nothing stops them from doing the same for music. Obviously Adele is not the only who benefits from this. As you know average review scores went up extremely high in the past few years. 

If Adele's label want her album to be bigger than what it is, they could have just bought more albums or had every song played on radio like Drake's label did. You are really mad because Adele got her most acclaimed album to date. Shut up and stop posting libel.

[aron.p]

Second week should be interesting. I always knew my girl would become an indie artist eventually  At least my other fav is still doing numbers. 

Edited November 22, 2021 by aron.p

[Mr. Duff]

I honestly expected at least a mil so in my opinion this is an underperformance, but still huge nonetheless  

 

Hope this will have longevity.

[Otter]

2 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

Yeah because Ed pulling 116k is comparable to Adele doing more than 800k , especially with the former having 2 hits carrying the album.

TBH i was thinking more of the people who dragged him for selling 130k in the UK (biggest sajes of the year)... but even just looking at the US, him and Adele's declines are proportionally the same (70%) and Eds single success will grant longevity. Adele was in the stratosphere and is now sitting next to other A list sellers. Ed at his peak only managed 450k... 

[wastedpotential]

2 minutes ago, thismoment said:

Are people seriously dragging an artist for selling over 800k in the first week? (without bundles, 17 different versions and merch like others did) 

Now... I know I didn't see someone with a Katy avi saying this 

[PopFan1996]

She's still the queen of pure sales no matter what you think

600-700k pure sales in 2021? With no bundles? Yep she owns the CD industry. It's fact.

[WildHeart]

22 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

And Adele will do over 1 million which is significantly higher than 600k so don't see your point. She does not rely on free streams to move numbers. 

 

On 11/20/2021 at 9:26 PM, UNNAMI said:

stop emberassing yourself. see you in monday when they revael her 2m sales and you will look like a fool

 

On 11/10/2021 at 9:25 PM, Blue Honeymoon said:

Folklore didn't sell 850k PURE, while the 3.3m for Adele were PURE sales.

 

And don't worry, 30 will surely sell more than 1.6m pure sales first week, which is more than Lover+Folklore + Evermore combined. 

 

On 11/10/2021 at 6:17 PM, Godele said:

literally no one is expecting 30 to do 25 numbers. But it’s still going to be outsell Taylor’s last effort 3x over. 

These aged so bad, didn't it 

[getback]

it's what they deserve for not releasing Can I Get It as lead

but i think her numbers will go up

[John Slayne]

you guys better be right about HDD underestimating, otherwise the mess that will ensue... 

[Reverse Warholian]

Told you I'd get my revenge against Auntie Bitch  @TalkThatRihanna

[Miss Show Business]

Wasn't a big part of 25's success because it was released on black friday, which is when most people who would buy the album were out in stores? I wonder how much it'll do in it's second week.

[JawBreaker]

22 minutes ago, Machete said:

Then: "EOM debut proved there's immense anticipation for Adele on streaming. +100M is in the bag."

 

Later on: "Adele isn't a streaming artist. Her base buys in pure. +1.5M is still locked"

 

Now: "SWIFTIES!!!!!"

If this ain't the truth

 

 

OT: To think that her tv special got 10M viewers makes his even more baffling. 

 

[State of Grace.]

5 minutes ago, By the Water said:

But the swifties!!11! I don't remember this energy when the Adele fans created the thread comparing her Oprah special ratings to City of Lover or the 19837382 threads and posts about who is 'the real music industry'

 

It's only obsession!!!!! when we troll back I guess