Sadie Saxton Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Her best album doing THAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 12 million + streams for ATW10. I cannot with this slayage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicBiz234 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, By the Water said: The excuses in here Someone saying this is how they expected ATW10 to perform I know, OTHs really grab at anything they can - sorta pathetic - just accept she’s a monster and bigger than your fav and leave the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwshooter Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Let us be rational: having more songs on an album definitely helps: based on Spotify/Billboard rule of counting one 10 streams per song per day, an album with 10 3 minutes songs can only be streamed 5 hours to be counted, by dedicated fans. Also more songs give fans more options to choose, to be counted towards 1250 streams of song times 10 counted as an album. Obviously this will not work for albums with long average length, or sucks in average quality that only a few will be picked by fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relampago. Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I will say this girl is so fun to stan and the way she makes her albums an event, and her eras very distinct and notable really makes all of this success make sense. ATW10MV is doing well because of not only how good the song is, but because Taylor cultivated a special feeling and nostalgia for that song. After being hyped up for 9 years, it’s no wonder it’s doing so well. Girls like Ariana, Olivia, Billie, etc have great music just like Taylor, but what pushes Taylor to the next level is her ability to create this hype around her releases and connect with her fans (and the GP too i would say). The other girls could push these numbers if they would do the same, but they’re not that type of artist. This is amazing and a big congrats to Taylor for doing so well with her best album to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted November 14, 2021 ATRL Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, wwshooter said: Let us be rational: having more songs on an album definitely helps: based on Spotify/Billboard rule of counting one 10 streams per song per day, an album with 10 3 minutes songs can only be streamed 5 hours to be counted, by dedicated fans. Also more songs give fans more options to choose, to be counted towards 1250 streams of song times 10 counted as an album. Obviously this will not work for albums with long average length, or sucks in average quality that only a few will be picked by fans. This. Not sure why the Swifties are trying to act like having more tracks is a a hindrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkypop Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 8 hours ago, PopFan1996 said: The fanbase does. Taylor’s fanbase is HUGE OT: nobody is doing it like her, talent always wins, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 She has no peers and is the biggest artist of the century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Headlock said: Louder in the back for Taylor’s second biggest fan base Her 2nd biggest fanbase are swifties. Her biggest fanbase is the GP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawBreaker Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Marvin said: This. Not sure why the Swifties are trying to act like having more tracks is a a hindrance Yes it is when 24 of the songs are decade old songs from an album that moved over 14 million units globally since OT: like I said before these shouldnt even be doing 10m streams. When Taylor added her discography back in 2017 none of her albums did this or even came close. So yeah yall are not gonna sit there and try to convince me his is normal and not impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted November 14, 2021 ATRL Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, JawBreaker said: Yes it is when 24 of the songs are decade old songs from an album that moved over 14 million units globally since What does that have to do with the fact that more tracks = more streams? If the album had less tracks, it'd be getting less streams. It's not that hard to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronelmaano13 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Marvin said: What does that have to do with the fact that more tracks = more streams? If the album had less tracks, it'd be getting less streams. It's not that hard to understand Long albums with 4 to 5 minute songs will be streamed less than a short album with 2 to 3 minute songs. You can listen more to short albums as you can replay them more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted November 14, 2021 ATRL Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, ronelmaano13 said: Long albums with 4 to 5 minute songs will be streamed less than a short album with 2 to 3 minute songs. You can listen more to short albums as you can replay them more. There's no guarantee that someone is gonna replay an album. If someone only listens to an album once, the album with more tracks will end up with more streams. And you only need to listen to a song for 30 seconds for it to count as a stream. The total length of the song doesn't matter. Olivia broke records with a 4 minute song just earlier this year. The fastest song to a billion streams up until recently was Shape of You (nearly 4 minutes long). This idea that shorter songs/albums is better for streaming is all made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 poor ariana tho streaming was the only she had but now taylor is snatching it like that i fear her next era will bomb at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safe&Sound Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Can she put ATW10M at TTH playlist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safe&Sound Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Harry said: poor ariana tho streaming was the only she had but now taylor is snatching it like that i fear her next era will bomb at this rate Ariana still has high-pitched vocal which Taylor doesn't have Also she is more a TV personality now They both won in their own ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry I Shot Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Red is really doing numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawBreaker Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, Marvin said: What does that have to do with the fact that more tracks = more streams? If the album had less tracks, it'd be getting less streams. It's not that hard to understand Yeah the same way positions had away more tracks than TUN but it still opened with less streams. Or Lover having more tracks than folklore but pulling less streams. If there's demand theres demand. And yes I brought it up cuz clearly Red tv is an entirely different situation. So I dont understand why its being brought up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniiel Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 59 minutes ago, Marvin said: What does that have to do with the fact that more tracks = more streams? If the album had less tracks, it'd be getting less streams. It's not that hard to understand This would be true, if the songs were shorter than 3 mins long. And as people have already informed you, most songs on this album are 4,5,6 and even 10 minutes long, which is the most streamed song of the album. So the more songs=more streams doesn't really apply here. The album is 2 hours and 10 mins long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Well of course! The album is so long it took me 2 days to listen through it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 hours ago, cruelhprince said: Seethe Fanbase streams don't count.. obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazil Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Swifities give it up, the 30 songs are gonna add to her streams especially cause her streams are fanbase driven and most fans will listen to the whole album, and there are more songs to go around for people to listen to. Nothing wrong in that, no need to defend anything related to Taylor even when it's a simple statement of a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Poor others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwshooter Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 The Billboard/Spotify rule is straightforward here, so more songs per album has clear advantage for artists with devoted fan who willing to stream repeatedly daily 10 songs from same album can have up to 100 paid streams (10 x 10) be counted towards SEA in any given day 30 songs from same album can have up to 300 paid stream (30 x 10) be counted towards SEA in any given day To Swifties' defense: 30 rap songs average 2 minutes is relatively easy to achieve daily maximum streams allowed: 300 x 2 = 10 hours 30 RedTV songs will need 300 x 5 = 25 hours, which is impossible, I doubt even devoted fans can stream 15 hours daily The quality and variety of music are also very important: cannot believe majority of Swifties will stream 5 hours of RedTV per day, if it is made up of 30 remixes of ATW (her most acclaimed song). If it is 30 remixes of ME!, all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Marvin said: This. Not sure why the Swifties are trying to act like having more tracks is a a hindrance We are not. We are saying that about the lengths of the songs thou. Most songs in this album are well over 4 minutes, which is going against the trends of streaming age. This combination could very easily make the album feel bloated, but Red TV didn't. Edited November 15, 2021 by Rep2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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