Jude Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, sadnews said: that's not new rule. physical always been counted when they're shipped. No, you don't know what you're talking about. Physicals were counted before even though they're not yet shipped as long as they've been bought from a source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, sadnews said: that's not new rule. physical always been counted when they're shipped. I don't think so sis, they were mostly counted first week, weren't them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Jude said: No, you don't know what you're talking about. Physicals were counted before even though they're not yet shipped as long as they've been bought from a source. This is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Fenty Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Born to Run said: Kid Cudi is a nobody. shut up cracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrymuffin Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jude said: The rule change isn't only about the bundle thing. It also counts towards the not counting the the physical copies before it gets shipped which affected Taylor. Again, stop putting words in my mouth. So the rule does include the bundle thing and "considering rule change" implies she was affected by the bundle rules implication is there even thought it wasnt clearly stated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jude said: No, you don't know what you're talking about. Physicals were counted before even though they're not yet shipped as long as they've been bought from a source. Actually the reason why physicals were counted before they were shipped before is because artists attached a digital version to it as well and since the digital version was received upon purchase, the sales from the physicals counted for week 1. Billboard changed this rule weeks ago. Now you can't include digitals to physicals to make them count week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, peterstyles13 said: Actually the reason why physicals were counted before they were shipped before is because artists attached a digital version to it as well and since the digital version was received upon purchase, the sales from the physicals counted for week 1. Billboard changed this rule weeks ago. Now you can't include digitals to physicals to make them count week 1. Which is basically the same point. What are we arguing? 2 minutes ago, hungrymuffin said: So the rule does include the bundle thing and "considering rule change" implies she was affected by the bundle rules implication is there even thought it wasnt clearly stated Not my fault you implied it differently from what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArgonaut Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Are these bad numbers? Should I start having a meltdown or is this because of the new rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrymuffin Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jude said: Not my fault you implied it differently from what I meant. ok next time if a swiftie says something related to Ariana but you imply its a shade to her thats your fault then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadnews Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jude said: No, you don't know what you're talking about. Physicals were counted before even though they're not yet shipped as long as they've been bought from a source. LOL it's always been like this. "The definition of a “sale” is product that has been shipped to the end consumer upon receipt of payment." If you think you're right, go check billboard's new rule article, check if they say anything about it.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebodybigheart Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, IAMDOM said: Say it ain’t so huge decline in only a span of months. Was predicting it tho tbh. This truly was a case of the numbers being a reflection of the quality ? there are no physicals for this album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jude said: Which is basically the same point. What are we arguing? Not arguing, just correcting lies/misinterpretations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, sadnews said: LOL it's always been like this. "The definition of a “sale” is product that has been shipped to the end consumer upon receipt of payment." If you think you're right, go check billboard's new rule article, check if they say anything about it.. lol Why are we making this complicated sis. Billboard COUNTED physical copies in THE WEEK it was purchased BEFORE the rule change regardless if it has been shipped or not yet. That's a fact. 1 minute ago, peterstyles13 said: Not arguing, just correcting lies/misinterpretations What lies? And also, all the people here said the same thing but you only came for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheArgonaut said: Are these bad numbers? Should I start having a meltdown or is this because of the new rules? 100% because of the new rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadnews Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 back in physical+digital bundle days which is basically 2 album sale. all the physical weren't counted because nielsen only count 1 album from multiple album bundle and labels used the +digital, so the sales are counted on first week(or specific targeted week). for just physical albums from artist store or any online sales. they always been counted when they're "shipped". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArgonaut Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, peterstyles13 said: 100% because of the new rules Well, I guess the Taylor of the big debuts is gone, but maybe it means that her albums are going to have more longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Almost Home said: Chile most of them already admitted they are only dragging her cause the Swifties didn’t acknowledge the excuses for the low numbers of the acts in their icons had The thing is the new rule only had a very minimal negative effect one them It's not like their favs were known as big physical sellers before the new rule anyways. The literal clownery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Great numbers. The fact that she's pulling close to 200k DIGITAL copies only I feel like they're underestimating her SEA a bit though. Cant wait to see her #s after the physicals come out, more weeks at #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Togekiss Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Amazing numbed just around what i predicted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Juanny said: Right i would understand if the physicals were representing hundreds of thousands of sales like they do for taylor lol And besides that very obvious point that they seem to ignore, there's also the fact that other acts actually had physicals available to be shipped on their first week... which means the new rule barely applied to them anyways Like what's not clicking we- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Almost Home said: Hope she ships 40k each week gradually and gets 15 weeks at #1 to make them fume well then their argument will be that it's not organic!11!!1!1!! They're a lost cause I fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomHooker Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Zs2236 said: I’ve never heard of Kid Cudi. Anyways great numbers for both. Taylor’s numbers might actually go up next week ? Get into these classics sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Great numbers without physicals Edited December 12, 2020 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTheLoner Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Great numbers and the fact she can still move that many digital pure units Hopefully the predictions increase though or she does more next week with physicals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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