greeneyedsoul Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) Debuts at #47 with 1,415 copies sold. This is actually semi-good since western girls have been flops in Japan for the past few years. https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2020-11-09/p/5/ Edited November 6, 2020 by greeneyedsoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quenn Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Previous peaks on Japan’s Oricon chart: Yours Truly: #3 Christmas Kisses: #25 My Everything: #3 Dangerous Woman: #2 The Best: #2 Sweetener: #5 thank u, next: #12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Her and Gaga were doing so great their first-third albums then their selling powers there disappeared suddenly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donquizote Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I thought Ariana always did good in Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selena Gomez Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 That's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoto Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 So Billie's WWAFA, WDWG? remains the last successful album by a western female artist there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcohen Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Just now, Kyoto said: So Billie's WWAFA, WDWG? remains the last successful album by a western female artist there? I'd say WWAFA, WDWG? is the last smash album by a western female artist. Because Lover was also successful by all means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoto Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, mcohen said: I'd say WWAFA, WDWG? is the last smash album by a western female artist. Because Lover was also successful by all means oh yeah Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxvii Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Smash album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzolorenzo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Not surprised tbh... Japan has completely dropped pop girls lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 The last certified pop girl album there is Reputation, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneyedsoul Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: The last certified pop girl album there is Reputation, right? RIAJ could at least do combined certifications now since even local artists are struggling with certifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveInStereo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Enzolorenzo said: Not surprised tbh... Japan has completely dropped pop girls lol Folklore went #10. Heaven & Hell debuted at #42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, greeneyedsoul said: RIAJ could at least do combined certifications now since even local artists are struggling with certifications. They only introduced streaming certifications for songs in May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveInStereo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, lcylcy said: Her and Gaga were doing so great their first-third albums then their selling powers there disappeared suddenly Chromatica went #3 & sold 10x what positions did. Why’s nobody in this thread willing to admit what these numbers mean? This is dismal. She slayed other regions so it’s not a read. But this is objectively a failure Edited November 6, 2020 by LoveInStereo Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofdave Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, lcylcy said: Her and Gaga were doing so great their first-third albums then their selling powers there disappeared suddenly Chromatica debuted #3 w only a few days of tracking... would’ve been #1 had it been a full week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, LoveInStereo said: Chromatica went #3 & sold 10x what positions did. Why’s nobody in this thread willing to admit what these numbers mean? This is dismal. She slayed other regions so it’s not a read. But this is objectively a failure Gaga's peak in Japan>>> Ari's peak in Japan tho? Gaga literally has a million selling album there it's just Ari is still arguably the biggest new MPG in Japan Gaga was huge and did magical number now we should just say she's normally successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, hausofdave said: Chromatica debuted #3 w only a few days of tracking... would’ve been #1 had it been a full week you saying that do make it look better cause I'm a fan of hers it's just her last few projects including ASIB didn't do exceptionally great number like she did with say TF/TFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ94 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, lcylcy said: Her and Gaga were doing so great their first-third albums then their selling powers there disappeared suddenly Chromatica had a way better debut than positions in Japan the same year lmao you thought you were doing something here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofdave Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, lcylcy said: you saying that do make it look better cause I'm a fan of hers it's just her last few projects including ASIB didn't do exceptionally great number like she did with say TF/TFM well yea ASIB really bombed in JP and SK, but bar that her most recent studio albums have all debuted Top 10 at least (inc C2C) so it shows her JP fanbase is still solid there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, HANZ94 said: Chromatica had a way better debut than positions in Japan the same year lmao you thought you were doing something here Gaga ALWAYS does better number than Ariana in Japan I was saying they both are losing their selling powers what's so hard to understand? "you thought you were doing something here" why don't you click my username and take a look to see if I'm an OGH or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneyedsoul Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 I wouldn't really compare GaGa and Ariana. Different generations with different demographics. Obviously the artist that was successful during times when Western artists sell singles/albums in millions in Japan would have more loyal fans in the end than someone who had a peak in a time when getting a gold certification is outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonRoars Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, LoveInStereo said: Chromatica went #3 & sold 10x what positions did. Why’s nobody in this thread willing to admit what these numbers mean? This is dismal. She slayed other regions so it’s not a read. But this is objectively a failure It's not the super pop influenced music that Japan usually likes from her and no one in the thread is dismissing these numbers or saying she's slaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ94 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, lcylcy said: Gaga ALWAYS does better number than Ariana in Japan I was saying they both are losing their selling powers what's so hard to understand? "you thought you were doing something here" why don't you click my username and take a look to see if I'm an OGH or not Yes she did lose her power but that’s normal she is not in her peak anymore but you randomly putting Gaga here out of nowhere makes you look like a hater literally no one was talking about her plus like you said Gaga is still in a way better position than Ariana in Japan son why mention her in the first place there are way better options to compare with Ariana than Gaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HANZ94 said: Yes she did lose her power but that’s normal she is not in her peak anymore but you randomly putting Gaga here out of nowhere makes you look like a hater literally no one was talking about her plus like you said Gaga is still in a way better position than Ariana in Japan son why mention her in the first place there are way better options to compare with Ariana than Gaga every fan mentions the artists he or she likes everywhere anywhere no? I'm not comparing them btw it's just I don't know the situations about a lot of artists they are the two I know more about and hence I talked about them and by losing selling powers of course it's about comparison between one era of an artist to his/her next like Gaga's "flop" such as ARTPOP still moved more number than every Ari's album including her peak so comparison between artists don't even reflect the loss of selling power you should understand so I said they loss their selling powers not at all was I comparing the two ladies hope this is clear enough I never disagreed that Gaga is still doing great and arguably so is Ari I just said lightheartedly that they both have been losing their selling powers Edited November 6, 2020 by lcylcy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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