charts discussion Billboard Charts (December 29, 2019-January 4, 2020)

[brianc33710]

2 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

34. Old Town Road (Remix) (+7)

YES!      YAY!     Thank you @Ger-55!  

[*No Angel*]

Legend 

[Prismee]

yikes Heartless  and this was why I was rooting against it for #1, i hate #1s with no longevity, same for that Lil Wayne song last year that got blocked by Girls Like You

[brianc33710]

Does anyone know where Truth Hurts ranks this week? It appears that this weeks Christmas re-entries didn't do as much damage as we had thought.

[Samson]

13 minutes ago, brianc33710 said:

Does anyone know where Truth Hurts ranks this week? It appears that this weeks Christmas re-entries didn't do as much damage as we had thought.

 

#35 i believe

[tanooki]

Full hot 100

 

1. All I Want For Christmas Is You
2. Rockin Around the Christmas Tree
3. Jingle Bell Rock
4. A Holly Jolly Christmas
5. Circles
6. Roxanne
7. It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year
8. Someone You Loved
9. Memories
10. Good as Hell
11. Last Christmas
12. Feliz Navidad
13. The Box
14. Dance Monkey
15. Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow
16. The Christmas Song
17. 10,000 Hours
18. Lose You To Love Me
19. Ballin'
20. BOP
21. Sleigh Ride
22. Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer
23. Bad Guy
24. Happy Holidays / The Holiday Season
25. No Guidance
26. Senorita
27. Bandit
28. It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas
29. Christmas (Baby, Please Come Home)
30. Panini
31. Underneath the Tree
32. Here Comes Santa Claus
33. Hot
34. Old Town Road
35. Truth Hurts
36. Run Rudolph Run
37. (There's No Other Place Like) Home For The Holidays
38. Highest In The Room
39. Heartless
40. Blue Christmas
41. Everything I Wanted
42. White Christmas
43. Jingle Bells
44. Like It's Christmas
45. Baby It's Cold Outside
46. Trampoline
47. Woah
48. Futsal Shuffle 2020
49. You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch
50. Ransom
51. Falling
52. Don't Start Now
53. Adore You
54. One Man Band
56. Suicidal
57. Lover
58. On Chill
59. Even Though I'm Leaving
60. No Idea
61. Graveyard
62. My Oh My
63. Juicy
64. The Bones
65. Playing Games
66. Heat
67. Into the Unknown
68. VIBEZ
69. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
70. Heart on Ice
71. What If I Never Get Over You
72. Blinding Lights
73. Ridin Roads
74. Camelot
75. Heartache Medication
76. Start Wit Me
77. Take What You Want
78. Leave Em Alone
79. Hate Me
80. Kinfolks
81. Let Me Know (I Wonder Why Freestyle)
82. Remember You Young
83. Death
84. 223s
85. Slide
86. RITMO (Bad Boys For Life)
87. Watermelon Sugar
88. Homesick
89. Slow Dancing in the Dark
90. Easy
91. Vete
92. Baby Sitter
93. Nice To Meet Ya
94. Yellow Hearts
95. Tip Toe
96. Candy
97. BEST ON EARTH
98. Tusa
99. Enemies
100. South of the Border

[brianc33710]

2 minutes ago, tanooki said:

Full hot 100

Thank you @tanooki.

[Ger]

Hot 100 (without Holiday Hits):

 

1. Circles

2. ROXANNE

3. Someone You Loved

4. Memories

5. Good As Hell

6. The Box

7. Dance Monkey

8. 10,000 Hours

9. Lose You to Love Me

10. Ballin'

 

11. BOP

12. bad guy

13. No Guidance

14. Señorita

15. Bandit

16. Panini

17. Hot

18. Old Town Road (Remix)

19. Truth Hurts

20. HIGHEST IN THE ROOM

[fridayteenage]

huh, so the top 50 was not quite majority xmas, hmm

[americanlife]

ahh, Ahh, AHH! What a glorious sight to see. #1 in FOUR DECADES. AHHH

[americanlife]

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48. Futsal Shuffle 2020 (-43)

 

 TikTok lost

[brianc33710]

8 minutes ago, fridayteenage said:

huh, so the top 50 was not quite majority xmas, hmm

The only things I can think of is that most of 2019s biggest hits gained in sales, streaming, and a little airplay. Next week these songs will also regain more airplay. So, as @Ger-55 has shown, a lot of this last years top songs should surge with the Christmas songs out of the way.

 

@simmnfierzig When you get a chance, please read my message about OTR! Thanks!

[MusicLoverDude]

24 Xmas songs will fall off next week, but Hate Me and Baby Sitter will also be leaving as they are in their 20th weeks...unless Billboard allows them to stay on.

 

That's TWENTY SIX open slots next week. Probably more because Harry Styles is bound to lose some entries. 

[MusicLoverDude]

1 minute ago, brianc33710 said:

The only things I can think of is that most of 2019s biggest hits gained in sales, streaming, and a little airplay. Next week these songs will also regain more airplay. So, as @Ger-55 has shown, a lot of this last years top songs should surge with the Christmas songs out of the way.

 

@simmnfierzig When you get a chance, please read my message about OTR! Thanks!

Yeah pretty much. Only Human was the only casualty this week. Ransom was VERY lucky to not fall off. Trampoline also almost didn't make it. Next week, the only non-Xmas songs that should be going recurrent are Hate Me and Baby Sitter. Dua Lipa, Taylor and Halsey should return to the Top 40. 

[fridayteenage]

Underneath the Tree the first holiday song from this century to return from recurrency, yes?

[brianc33710]

5 minutes ago, MusicLoverDude said:

24 Xmas songs will fall off next week, but Hate Me and Baby Sitter will also be leaving as they are in their 20th weeks...unless Billboard allows them to stay on.

 

That's TWENTY SIX open slots next week. Probably more because Harry Styles is bound to lose some entries. 

Two years ago, I emailed BB because the Top 5 RC songs all gained in all metrics for a 2nd straight wk and, because of where Sam Hunt ranked on the Country Songs Chart, all 5 were back above 50. I thought that these were BBs criteria for letting RCs reenter the Hot 100. But Silvio said that those werent the rules. So BB probably wont get too generous with HM & BS.

[MusicLoverDude]

2 minutes ago, brianc33710 said:

Two years ago, I emailed BB because the Top 5 RC songs all gained in all metrics for a 2nd straight wk and, because of where Sam Hunt ranked on the Country Songs Chart, all 5 were back above 50. I thought that these were BBs criteria for letting RCs reenter the Hot 100. But Silvio said that those werent the rules. So BB probably wont get too generous with HM & BS.

 

The problem is, BB has been very confusing with what they do the last two years. Close Friends by Lil Baby spent more than 10 weeks BELOW #50 on the Hot 100 after its 20th week. When it finally did reach the Top 50 again, it only spent 2 weeks in the Top 50 and THEN went recurrent. I never understood why they did that. When they did it with You Say by Lauren Daigle, I figured it was because she would have been Top 50 without the Xmas songs, which is exactly what happened after they all fell out. They also gave mercy to I Like Me Better by Lauv one week because it fell below #50 because of a Drake album bomb, but otherwise would have been Top 40 without them. 

[Ger]

01		Mariah Carey
		All I Want for Christmas Is You
		Move:	Steady	Peak:	#1(3x)	Weeks in Top 10:	10
02		Brenda Lee
		Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree
		Move:	Steady	Peak:	#2	Weeks in Top 10:	5
03		Bobby Helms
		Jingle Bell Rock
		Move:	Up 6	Peak:	#3	Weeks in Top 10:	3
04		Burl Ives
		A Holly Jolly Christmas
		Move:	Up 2	Peak:	#4	Weeks in Top 10:	4
05		Post Malone
		Circles
		Move:	Down 2	Peak:	#1(2x)	Weeks in Top 10:	17
06		Arizona Zervas
		ROXANNE
		Move:	Down 2	Peak:	#4	Weeks in Top 10:	5
07		Andy Williams
		It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year
		Move:	Up 8	Peak:	#7	Weeks in Top 10:	2
08		Lewis Capaldi
		Someone You Loved
		Move:	Steady	Peak:	#1(3x)	Weeks in Top 10:	16
09		Maroon 5
		Memories
		Move:	Down 2	Peak:	#4	Weeks in Top 10:	8
10		Lizzo
		“Good As Hell”
		Move:	Steady	Peak:	#3	Weeks in Top 10:	9

Edited December 31, 2019 by Ger-55

[brianc33710]

30 minutes ago, MusicLoverDude said:

 

The problem is, BB has been very confusing with what they do the last two years. Close Friends by Lil Baby spent more than 10 weeks BELOW #50 on the Hot 100 after its 20th week. When it finally did reach the Top 50 again, it only spent 2 weeks in the Top 50 and THEN went recurrent. I never understood why they did that. When they did it with You Say by Lauren Daigle, I figured it was because she would have been Top 50 without the Xmas songs, which is exactly what happened after they all fell out. They also gave mercy to I Like Me Better by Lauv one week because it fell below #50 because of a Drake album bomb, but otherwise would have been Top 40 without them. 

 

BB allows AC hits forced RC by Christmas songs to RE that chart when holidays ends & has done so since Christmas took over AC Dec 2000. But that AC rule doesnt carry over to the H 100, or at least it didnt end of 2017-early 2018.....

[mintpasty]

12 hours ago, G.U.Y_del_Rey said:

The GP does not care about Grammy campaigns lol , and even less Billie's audience. Also, bad guy came out back in March so her latest single being old is not an excuse for Ariana.

Do you think Billie Eilish is running around saying "hey y'all i'm doing promo so that there's more buzz around me for Grammy's season"? No lol. She's just doing promo and it's obviously effective. She's been on carpool karaoke recently, as well as many interviews and had a lot of radio gigs. Her fans eat it up. And bad guy wasn't her latest single, it was All the Good Girls Go to Hell, and was recently (or still is) top 40 on pop radio, whereas Ariana exited top 40 a while back

[tanooki]

3 hours ago, MusicLoverDude said:

 

The problem is, BB has been very confusing with what they do the last two years. Close Friends by Lil Baby spent more than 10 weeks BELOW #50 on the Hot 100 after its 20th week. When it finally did reach the Top 50 again, it only spent 2 weeks in the Top 50 and THEN went recurrent. I never understood why they did that. When they did it with You Say by Lauren Daigle, I figured it was because she would have been Top 50 without the Xmas songs, which is exactly what happened after they all fell out. They also gave mercy to I Like Me Better by Lauv one week because it fell below #50 because of a Drake album bomb, but otherwise would have been Top 40 without them. 

Also,

 

-Good as Hell by Lizzo debuted at 52, which it shouldn't have been able to do

-Baby Shark, a recurrent song, spent its final two weeks below #50

-Legends by Juice WRLD,  which is not older than 2 years and does not have 20+ weeks on the hot 100, is recurrent for some reason

 

Billboard has been extremely weird with the recurrency rules.

[Armani?]

5 hours ago, MusicLoverDude said:

 

The problem is, BB has been very confusing with what they do the last two years. Close Friends by Lil Baby spent more than 10 weeks BELOW #50 on the Hot 100 after its 20th week. When it finally did reach the Top 50 again, it only spent 2 weeks in the Top 50 and THEN went recurrent. I never understood why they did that. When they did it with You Say by Lauren Daigle, I figured it was because she would have been Top 50 without the Xmas songs, which is exactly what happened after they all fell out. They also gave mercy to I Like Me Better by Lauv one week because it fell below #50 because of a Drake album bomb, but otherwise would have been Top 40 without them. 

They'll keep a song from going recurrent if they think it's still going to peak higher. 

[Armani?]

6 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

Hot 100 (without Holiday Hits):

 

1. Circles

2. ROXANNE

3. Someone You Loved

4. Memories

5. Good As Hell

6. The Box

7. Dance Monkey

8. 10,000 Hours

9. Lose You to Love Me

10. Ballin'

 

 

Hope Ballin holds on next week, Roddy will get 2 top ten hits He's really close with Dababy. @Green Do you know the point difference between them?

 

Hopefully that Travis remix isnt that big of a effect. 

[Green]

1 hour ago, Armani? said:

Hope Ballin holds on next week, Roddy will get 2 top ten hits He's really close with Dababy. @Green Do you know the point difference between them?

 

Hopefully that Travis remix isnt that big of a effect. 

 

I don't know. I haven't done predictions in the last 2 weeks

[Pop Art]

HITR Remix Spotify Positions

#3-#6-#11-#17

 

Not the remix mimicking the songs' Hot 100 performance.  He just can't get this song to stick it seems.