touya kinomoto Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Wow, a thread about Katy and yet the first three posts... weren't from the Kats. Y'all guys better log off ATRL once for your life. It's not healthy. OT: Glad that Katy's 2nd best album is doing great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Before the Dawn Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 lmaoooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtForFreedom Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicKat Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Doesn’t the Witness era have over 4 billion streams as well? Other flops could never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Drive Bitch said: The Princess of pop did that The Princess of Pop did over 10M+ with her fourth studio album. Katy’s not even at 2M yet with her fourth album. 2 hours ago, Yanko said: impossible can we have a sales breakdown with countries please? the album BOMBED everywhere it'snotrealistic.gif They’re pretending that YouTube audio counts as much as On-Demand Streaming. Witness Album Sales - 600k Digital Song Sales - 2,320,000 - 232,000 TEAS On-Demand Streams - ~1,400,000,000 - 933,334 SEAs YouTube - ~2,400,000,000 - 1,600.000 SEAs Total: 3,365,334 1 hour ago, johnsuxx said: Forum homosexuals know better than industry leaders? Those industry leaders lie all the time. Rihanna’s label fakes her record sales by adding song consumption (digital single sales + physical single sales + 1/150 streams) and album SPS (album sales + 1/10 digital single sales + 1/1500 On-Demand streams). Industry leaders are the biggest liars when it comes to stats - it’s the whole reason Billboard exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gab00 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 She'd barely hit a milli with the SPS of UK and US together and unless witness went diamond in Germany or Japan and we didn't know this makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eternium said: The Princess of Pop did over 10M+ with her fourth studio album. Katy’s not even at 2M yet with her fourth album. They’re pretending that YouTube audio counts as much as On-Demand Streaming. Witness Album Sales - 600k Digital Song Sales - 2,320,000 - 232,000 TEAS On-Demand Streams - ~1,400,000,000 - 933,334 SEAs YouTube - ~2,400,000,000 - 1,600.000 SEAs Total: 3,365,334 Those industry leaders lie all the time. Rihanna’s label fakes her record sales by adding song consumption (digital single sales + physical single sales + 1/150 streams) and album SPS (album sales + 1/10 digital single sales + 1/1500 On-Demand streams). Industry leaders are the biggest liars when it comes to stats - it’s the whole reason Billboard exists so its around 1.9-2.0 which is decent they dont have to like like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Yanko said: so its around 1.9-2.0 which is decent they dont have to like like this It was at 1,911,000 as of March 7th of 2018. It’s probably right under 2M and should pass the mark any day now. Hopefully NRO does well enough that they don’t have to lie about such a poor figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.U.Y_Del_Rey Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Eternium said: The Princess of Pop did over 10M+ with her fourth studio album. Katy’s not even at 2M yet with her fourth album. They’re pretending that YouTube audio counts as much as On-Demand Streaming. Witness Album Sales - 600k Digital Song Sales - 2,320,000 - 232,000 TEAS On-Demand Streams - ~1,400,000,000 - 933,334 SEAs YouTube - ~2,400,000,000 - 1,600.000 SEAs Total: 3,365,334 Those industry leaders lie all the time. Rihanna’s label fakes her record sales by adding song consumption (digital single sales + physical single sales + 1/150 streams) and album SPS (album sales + 1/10 digital single sales + 1/1500 On-Demand streams). Industry leaders are the biggest liars when it comes to stats - it’s the whole reason Billboard exists This was the first thing I thought when I first saw the 3 million number, and seeing your post, that seems to be the case. Edited June 2, 2019 by G.U.Y_del_Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster_enriquer Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 LIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lover Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 NO LIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Congrats to Katy on this success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 hours ago, JawBreaker said: are they using the same methodology like Chart Masters??? Chartmasters would likely have her at about 2m. It's likely that her record label counted YouTube streams with the same value as paid-streaming, which is misleading. Let me check...yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanET Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 You know Witness didn’t flop when you see so many monsters seething Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawBaw Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Eternium said: The Princess of Pop did over 10M+ with her fourth studio album. Katy’s not even at 2M yet with her fourth album. They’re pretending that YouTube audio counts as much as On-Demand Streaming. Witness Album Sales - 600k Digital Song Sales - 2,320,000 - 232,000 TEAS On-Demand Streams - ~1,400,000,000 - 933,334 SEAs YouTube - ~2,400,000,000 - 1,600.000 SEAs Total: 3,365,334 Those industry leaders lie all the time. Rihanna’s label fakes her record sales by adding song consumption (digital single sales + physical single sales + 1/150 streams) and album SPS (album sales + 1/10 digital single sales + 1/1500 On-Demand streams). Industry leaders are the biggest liars when it comes to stats - it’s the whole reason Billboard exists 5 minutes ago, Timber said: Chartmasters would likely have her at about 2m. It's likely that her record label counted YouTube streams with the same value as paid-streaming, which is misleading. Let me check...yep. + the Ceertifications are abysmal Certifications Region Certification Certified units/Sales Australia (ARIA)[59] Gold 35,000^ Austria (IFPI Austria)[110] Gold 7,500* Canada (Music Canada)[53] Platinum 80,000^ France (SNEP)[111] Gold 50,000* Netherlands (NVPI)[112] Gold 20,000^ United Kingdom (BPI)[113] Silver 60,000^ United States — 162,000[48] Summaries Worldwide — 840,000[64] Year-end charts Chart (2017) Position Australian Albums (ARIA)[102] 35 Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders)[103] 107 Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia)[104] 93 Canadian Albums (Billboard)[105] 39 Dutch Albums (MegaCharts)[106] 93 Italian Albums (FIMI)[107] 92 Mexican Albums (AMPROFON)[108] 50 US Billboard 200[109] 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Timber said: Chartmasters would likely have her at about 2m. It's likely that her record label counted YouTube streams with the same value as paid-streaming, which is misleading. HDD’s teas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80x100 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 so if witness crossed 3m, melodrama would be +2.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Timber said: Chartmasters would likely have her at about 2m. It's likely that her record label counted YouTube streams with the same value as paid-streaming, which is misleading. Let me check...yep. Welp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadnews Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 this is same thing as taylor label did. counting single before album release, youtube views, and china numbers I guess. and all in 1500 same ratio. so it can look good on paper for PR. with streaming royalty and ratio being different, this new sps thing is giant mess. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Quote Witness 3 million copies sold Ssksksksk perhaps in Oblivia. Capitol really thought they did something with these blatant lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspy Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 The little Rats in here _____ OT: WITNESS HA POWER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
materialboy Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 A global era with multiple smash hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplywohoo Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 the fumes in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilencePlease Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Only the Saviour of Pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Boy Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 A Teenage Dream selling 11M copies teas Kats, you dont even believe that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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