Lady Bird Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Grumpy Gills said: The hate makes dumber than they already are FFF months later and you’re still mad sis (not surprised judging from.... nevermind) , the embarassment. It was a joke, stop being so obsessed.mp3 The way that y’all are calling me dumb when you’re here riddled up over a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Bird Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Adonis said: Payolla. Billboard doesnt actually count bulk purchases of albums and singles. Be careful sis, don’t want them to pile up your notifications calling you racist etc... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohno Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, Lady Bird said: The way that y’all RAN over something that wasn’t serious Loosen up hun, embarrassing. Lady Bird indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSoneNavy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, RobDeWittBukater said: Not directed at you specifically but... Y’all do know that everytime y'all post “payola” or “bots” in response to a valid achievement by an Asian artist, it is more of an insult to your own intelligence than it is an insult to us or any of the groups we love. Hanteo is a physical chart (one of several to be exact) and while BTS' numbers are definitely outstanding and on track to amount to first week sales that might even surpass their previous two 1 million opening weeks in Korea, domestic physical sales tend to be very strong for Korean groups in general. It has absolutely nothing to do with payola and absolutely everything to do with promotion, marketing and the Asian Idol culture which has been around for decades It is totally fine to not know or care about any of this. I get that. This forum is overwhelmingly US-centric and that is fine! But then maybe... don't comment on other music market you are not familiar with? Or do a fact check first so you can actually contribute from an informed stance like many users in this thread have done. And sorry for this outburst (it's definitely not personal or targeted at you in particular) but after reading "bots" / "payola1!1" comments for the 1000th time (and not just in BTS threads, in virtually any thread relating to an Asian performer), it just gets a little tiring. I would expect ATRLers to at least try to come up with drags that have more substance to them and that aren't this easily clockable That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NE1 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Resquid said: It’s not really comparable tho. Korean fans HAVE to buy multiple copies of an album just to have a right to buy a concert ticket, remain in the fanclub and such. The market model is totally different. very good job nonetheless!! This lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfillusion Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Kings of Pop tingz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harranger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 People are really saying this is bots and payola Jesus, shut the **** up racists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Can someone post other massive artists first week sales (preferably the biggest first week sales) so us non Asian market folk can truly grasp how crazy this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi_valvi Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Lady Bird said: writing "payola" was your joke? gurl you need better material OT: oh wow, i can't stand them but seeing the anti-kpoppers fume warms my heart so i'm not too mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocory Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Adonis said: Payolla. Billboard doesnt actually count bulk purchases of albums and singles. You need to learn the definition of payola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Resquid said: It’s not really comparable tho. Korean fans HAVE to buy multiple copies of an album just to have a right to buy a concert ticket, remain in the fanclub and such. The market model is totally different. very good job nonetheless!! Your racist ass getting them confused with AKB48, stick to talking about whities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resquid Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Hongbin said: Your racist ass getting them confused with AKB48, stick to talking about whities. I am literally japanese I am literally in a Japanese University doing postgraduate research on media and celebrity Literally half of my year is doing research on kpop and fan labor you didn’t even read any of my posts on this thread and you tried to come for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Resquid said: I am literally japanese I am literally in a Japanese University doing postgraduate research on media and celebrity Literally half of my year is doing research on kpop and fan labor you didn’t even read any of my posts on this thread and you tried to come for me And? You've only speant half a year doing research on K-pop when I've been following the industry for 9 years. AKB is the group that does what you said Just admit you're racist against koreans and go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Bird Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, levi_valvi said: writing "payola" was your joke? gurl you need better material OT: oh wow, i can't stand them but seeing the anti-kpoppers fume warms my heart so i'm not too mad It did have y’all running and fuming so I kinda won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golowhore Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 hours ago, AM98GJ said: Out of curiosity, are these from the album sales in Korea that are priced a lot lower than in Western countries? Not being shady but maybe that's a reason coupled with their hype there Edit: I'm saying this because I think I read on here once that albums in Korea are a lot cheaper right? lol Korea is not a third world country. They cost more or less the same there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizzy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I can’t wait until the MASSIVE Kpop payola scheme gets exposed. It’s not just BTS the whole industry is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resquid Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Hongbin said: And? You've only speant half a year doing research on K-pop when I've been following the industry for 9 years. AKB is the group that does what you said Just admit you're racist against koreans and go I meant half of my classmates are doing a phd thesis on kpop and fan labor i am 3 years into my phd, going on 8 years of fan research how is me explaining a market model prove that im a racist This is lame. I mean at least you could criticize the way I explained the model, but using the racist card to get away from this is just... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Bird Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The way that y’all throw about the word “racist” so loosely FFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocory Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shizzy said: I can’t wait until the MASSIVE Kpop payola scheme gets exposed. It’s not just BTS the whole industry is corrupt. fume MORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi_valvi Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lady Bird said: It did have y’all running and fuming so I kinda won. you won by making a fool of yourself and being laughed at by everyone in the thread? i guess the bar for you winning is super low but sure, take whatever win you can get sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Bird Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, levi_valvi said: you won by making a fool of yourself and being laughed at by everyone in the thread? i guess the bar for you winning is super low but sure, take whatever win you can get sis Oh no 5 of the kpoppers laughed at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Resquid said: I meant half of my classmates are doing a phd thesis on kpop and fan labor i am 3 years into my phd, going on 8 years of fan research how is me explaining a market model prove that im a racist This is lame. I mean at least you could criticize the way I explained the model, but using the racist card to get away from this is just... You're explaing the market model by using Japan's Idol market model to dicuss Korea's market model. Maybe not racist but just uninformed. Kind of weird your getting a masters degree in this stuff though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickSpears Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Squall said: No shade but I really don’t get the hype for them right. I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resquid Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hongbin said: You're explaing the market model by using Japan's Idol market model to dicuss Korea's market model. Maybe not racist but just uninformed. Kind of weird your getting a masters degree in this stuff though Well I love kpop. And right now I get payed and I’m contributing a lot of literature to the larger field of copyright issues by basically just being a fan, which I figured is a nice way to live, so that’s what i’m doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM98GJ Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Golo***** said: lol Korea is not a third world country. They cost more or less the same there. I didn't say it was, I said I had seen on here that they were like $4? So pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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