charts discussion RIAA: Mid-Year Revnues up 10% in 2018

[Chainsmoker]

Yes, Poor ATRL

 

 

[Enoch]

3 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said:

real sales

barely anything is selling nowadays

[sxmescudi]

 

3 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said:

Doesn't change the fact that artists get almost nothing from it.

Artists still get more from touring (of course) and real sales

you can buy one digital item only once meanwhile if you stream the same song or album over and over you’re giving money to the artist continuously

 

[Hug]

We love this consumer-friendly trend in music consumption that also saved the music industry.

[Erotic]

So is this revenue going to the artists?

 

[Leon]

The thing about that figure is that money is not what goes to the label/artist. It's what Spotify/apple/Amazon/Pandora/etc makes from ads. Right? 

Edited September 20, 2018 by Leon

[Steve Jobs]

17 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said:

Doesn't change the fact that artists get almost nothing from it.

Artists still get more from touring (of course) and real sales

Drake's 2016 stats (where he had at least 1.6m pure album sales and 5m single sales)

 

Edited September 20, 2018 by Steve Jobs

[Solarie]

7 minutes ago, Steve Jobs said:

another atrL

Lmfao this

[Entela]

The only losers are those basic poptarts girls who atrl stans who don't write their music/use writing camps.

Winners : Labels,songwriters.

[Steve Jobs]

2 minutes ago, romonster said:

Most people on ATRL have a problem with how extremely manipulated and label-controlled streaming is, not streaming itself.

Less manipulated than radio where basically one broadcasting company controls the airplay charts. At least the consumer has a choice on what to listen in streaming, even if playlists push specific tracks.

[Fenrir]

Poor atrls stuck in the past. 

[Enoch]

7 minutes ago, Erotic said:

So is this revenue going to the artists?

 

depends on their contracts, publishing, writing/production credits

[Enoch]

15 minutes ago, romonster said:

manipulated and label-controlled

bet yall would be sining a different tune if your fave/s benefitted from it

 

And im cackling about the “WHAT aBOUT THE aRtISTs!!11” posts. The industry has always had the upper hand in screwing over their artists profits, even in the peak of physical/digital sales

Edited September 20, 2018 by Enoch

[Sinister]

@ChartsFan how you say this?

[K$Ellie]

No? Most people are fine with streaming now and have moved on

[Badboidami]

25 minutes ago, ArianadelRey said:

Only certain fanbases (mostly artists who debuted before 2008) still defend pure sales, most of us know what the real deal is.

this

[Steve Jobs]

9 minutes ago, romonster said:

Freemium users on Spotify can't skip songs on playlists when listening from a mobile device. A song relies heavily on playlists on Spotify to even gain traction. Views on YouTube rely on recommended lists and autoplay. 

But you still have a choice to skip or stop the playback, even if many people don't do it. Radio can make or break a hit while having 100% control.

[Truth Teller]

39 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said:

Doesn't change the fact that artists get almost nothing from it.

Artists still get more from touring (of course) and real sales

A successful era in the early 10's would spawn around 10 million units in album and song sales. That's what Rihanna, Bruno and others were pulling for their last eras before the streaming era. At least half of those units were, of course, digital singles (since very few people were giving 12 dollars to buy an album, it's been this way for a decade now). Deducting the cost of making a physical album and the percentage of the price that the retailers keep for profit, let's say the era would bring in around 35 million revenue for the label.

 

Now, take a successful era from this year. Sweetener has already amassed 1 billion streams on Spotify alone. If you add in all the other streaming platforms, multiplied with the payout rate of each, she's already nearing 15 million revenue and would end up between 20 and 25, even if NOBODY bought the album or downloaded the singles. And this is only the beginning of the streaming era.

 

As for touring, streaming doesn't negate touring at all. If anything, streaming gives them the opportunity to be more out there, more visible, more popular. Artists have always made more from touring than anything else, ALWAYS. Most artists get 7 - 15% from their record sales anyway. So that has nothing to do with streaming

[Rico Shameless v2]

1 hour ago, romonster said:

Freemium users on Spotify can't skip songs on playlists when listening from a mobile device. A song relies heavily on playlists on Spotify to even gain traction. Views on YouTube rely on recommended lists and autoplay. 

This is inaccurate. Most Spotify users listen to music via personal made playlists and curated is the least.

[KillingYourCareer]

As long as they sell CDs I won

[levi_valvi]

no, atrl is a streaming force, we won

[Kurwisko]

Im sure most artlers only stream as well nowadays. I literally buy albums only from my 2 faves - gaga and lana. Thats like 1 album every other year.

[katykater]

It's obvious that streaming is used for discovering new music on the move and repeating a new song you like. However I only spend on a CD album when I like the entire track list, that doesn't happen a lot.

 

1 hour ago, Truth Teller said:

As for touring, streaming doesn't negate touring at all. If anything, streaming gives them the opportunity to be more out there, more visible, more popular. Artists have always made more from touring than anything else, ALWAYS. Most artists get 7 - 15% from their record sales anyway. So that has nothing to do with streaming

That's quite generous, the numbers shared by the RIAA of the country where I live shows that artists get 0.50 euro to 1 euro of 20 euro album price, that's 2.5 to 5 %. Even when it's discounted to 10 euro, 5 to 10% is still low.

[opruh]

Taylor's impact! 

[tde]

3 hours ago, ViviLittleM said:

 real sales

This is a lie