charts discussion US Airplay Discussion

[theweekend]

6. Break My Heart : 13.309 (+155) | 62.309 (+0.419)

yassssss

[VictorJustino]

Why "Roses" is so high. This songs sucks

 

Btw... I'm so happy about Watermelon Sugar

this needs to be the song of the summer along with Rain On Me

[Ger]

12 minutes ago, VictorJustino said:

Why "Roses" is so high. This songs sucks

There's a clear huge demand of the song (Top 10 on sales and Streaming), most shazamed song of the country for around 2 months. 

[Ger]

OVERALL

1. The Weeknd - "Blinding Lights" 150.43 (-0.34)

2. Harry Styles - "Adore You" 121.94 (-0.62)

3. Justin Bieber - "Intentions (feat. Quavo)" 119.66 (-1.41)

4. Doja Cat - "Say So" 113.85 (-0.91)

5. Megan Thee Stallion - "Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé)" 106.19 (-0.26)

6. Post Malone - "Circles" 101.44 (-0.11)

7. Dua Lipa - "Don't Start Now" 100.10 (-0.46)

8. Maren Morris - "The Bones" 93.20 (-0.23)

9. Dua Lipa - "Break My Heart" 81.28 (+0.79)

10. Trevor Daniel - "Falling" 77.62 (+0.14)

 

11. SAINt JHN - "Roses (Imanbek Remix)" 76.04 (+0.75)

12. DaBaby - "ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)" 71.47 (+1.79)

13. Lil Mosey - "Blueberry Faygo" 68.87 (+0.30)

14 (+1) Lewis Capaldi - "Before You Go" 65.56 (+0.87)

15 (-1) Roddy Ricch - "High Fasion (feat. Mustard)" 65.07 (+0.11)

16. Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - "Rain on Me" 61.56 (+1.19)

17 (+1) Kenny Chesney - "Here and Now" 56.29 (+0.87)

18 (-1) Lewis Capaldi - "Someone You Loved" 56.29 (-0.64)

19. Roddy Ricch - "The Box" 54.26 (-0.07)

20. Maroon 5 - "Memories" 53.80 (-0.12)

 

Luke Bryan - "One Margarita" 52.05 (+0.86)

Harry Styles - "Watermelon Sugar" 51.64 (+2.03)

Powfu - "death bed (feat. beabadoobee) [coffee for your head]" 51.60 (+0.84)

Surfaces - "Sunday Best" 51.35 (-0.33)

Gabby Barrett - "I Hope" 48.39 (+1.33)

Chris Brown & Young Thug - "Go Crazy" 47.27 (+0.89)

Jack Harlow - "WHATS POPPIN" 45.62 (+3.43) **

Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber - "Stuck With U" 45.56 (-0.59)

BENEE - "Supalonely (feat. Gus Dapperton)" 40.49 (+0.14) **

JP Saxe - "If the World Was Ending (feat. Julia Michaels)" 38.51 (+0.54)

Marshmello & Halsey - "Be Kind" 38.07 (-0.37)

Doja Cat - "Like That (feat. Gucci Mane)" 28.02 (+0.86)

Jonas Brothers - "X (feat. Karol G)" 28.01 (-0.24)

Katy Perry - "Daisies" 24.69 (+0.50)

 

Man:

Spoiler

Pop

38    37   JOJO    Man    1010    929    81    0.949

+22 Spins

+13 Bullet

+0.019 Audience

 

[Kots]

Harry is overlooked among males because of Abel's slayage, but the 1-2 punch of Adore You, which is still sitting pretty at #2, and Sugar is truly impressive. 

[fridayteenage]

6 hours ago, VictorJustino said:

Why "Roses" is so high. This songs sucks

 

Btw... I'm so happy about Watermelon Sugar

this needs to be the song of the summer along with Rain On Me

nah

[gotportugal]

cmon Break My Heart!!

 

[Ger]

POP

1. Blinding Lights : 17.580 (-100) | 86.318 (-0.799)

2. Intentions : 17.066 (-358) | 73.955 (-1.870)

3. Say So : 16.856 (-202) | 77.128 (-1.220)

4. Falling : 15.996 (-66) | 69.022 (-0.286)

5. Adore You : 13.574 (-111)  | 72.617 (-0.711)

6. Break My Heart : 13.352 (+43) | 62.247 (-0.062)

7. Roses : 12.081 (+51) | 57.535 (+0.450)

8. Savage : 10.740 (+11) | 49.222 (+0.067)

9. Don't Start Now : 9.890 (-90) | 50.135 (-0.370)

10. Sunday Best : 9.361 (-18) | 38.905 (+0.108)

 

11. Rain On Me : 8.916 (+26) | 40.052 (+0.207)

12. Before You Go : 8.431 (+85) | 37.833 (+0.502)

13. Supalonely : 8.278 (+31) | 38.662 (+0.489)

14. Watermelon Sugar : 8.275 (+100) | 40.945 (+1.145)

15. Be Kind : 7.792 (-67) | 30.683 (-0.537)

16. The Bones : 7.580 (-153) | 28.701 (-0.566)

17 (+1) Coffee For Your Head : 7.573 (+23) | 32.618 (+0.191)

18 (-1) Stuck With U : 7.505 (-155) | 30.020 (-0.603)

19. Blueberry Faygo : 5.949 (+57) | 25.539 (+0.438) 

20. X : 5.129 (-161) | 15.871 (-0.844)

 

21. If The World Was Ending : 4.863 (+61) | 21.795 (+0.288)

22. Rockstar : 4.847 (+209) | 21.737 (+1.340)

23. Like That : 3.822 (+69) | 14.686 (+0.432)

24. Heartless : 3.082 (-20) | 8.866 (-0.012)

25. I Hope : 3.058 (+129) | 11.104 (+0.775)

26. MAMACITA : 2.624 (+84) | 9.985 (+0.451)

27. Toosie Slide : 2.171 (-233) | 7.518 (-0.720) 

28. Daisies : 2.133 (+25) | 7.716  (+0.203)

29. 100 Ways : 1.949 (-40) | 5.513 (-0.058)

30. THE SCOTTS : 1.645 (-33) | 3.586 (-0.177)

[Kots]

Watermelon Sugar coming for blood, already higher audience than the four songs above it

[Ger]

OVERALL

1. The Weeknd - "Blinding Lights" 149.39 (-1.04)

2. Harry Styles - "Adore You" 121.27 (-0.68)

3. Justin Bieber - "Intentions (feat. Quavo)" 118.01 (-1.65)

4. Doja Cat - "Say So" 112.53 (-1.33)

5. Megan Thee Stallion - "Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé)" 105.73 (-0.47)

6. Post Malone - "Circles" 100.69 (-0.75)

7. Dua Lipa - "Don't Start Now" 99.74 (-0.36) **

8. Maren Morris - "The Bones" 92.81 (-0.39)

9. Dua Lipa - "Break My Heart" 81.24 (-0.04)

10. Trevor Daniel - "Falling" 77.42 (-0.19)

 

11. SAINt JHN - "Roses (Imanbek Remix)" 76.82 (+0.77)

12. DaBaby - "ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)" 74.12 (+2.65)

13. Lil Mosey - "Blueberry Faygo" 68.84 (-0.03)

14. Lewis Capaldi - "Before You Go" 66.43 (+0.87)

15. Roddy Ricch - "High Fasion (feat. Mustard)" 64.50 (-0.57)

16. Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - "Rain on Me" 61.98 (+0.41)

17. Kenny Chesney - "Here and Now" 56.73 (+0.43)

18. Lewis Capaldi - "Someone You Loved" 55.82 (-0.47)

19 (+1) Maroon 5 - "Memories" 53.62 (-0.18)

20 (-1) Roddy Ricch - "The Box" 53.47 (-0.80)

 

Harry Styles - "Watermelon Sugar" 53.04 (+1.40)

Luke Bryan - "One Margarita" 52.85 (+0.80)

Powfu - "death bed (feat. beabadoobee) [coffee for your head]" 51.90 (+0.30)

Surfaces - "Sunday Best" 51.63 (+0.28)

Gabby Barrett - "I Hope" 49.62 (+1.23)

Chris Brown & Young Thug - "Go Crazy" 48.42 (+1.15)

Jack Harlow - "WHATS POPPIN" 47.06 (+1.44)

Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber - "Stuck With U" 44.88 (-0.68)

BENEE - "Supalonely (feat. Gus Dapperton)" 40.98 (+0.49)

JP Saxe - "If the World Was Ending (feat. Julia Michaels)" 39.12 (+0.61)

Marshmello & Halsey - "Be Kind" 37.61 (-0.46)

Doja Cat - "Like That (feat. Gucci Mane)" 28.52 (+0.49)

Jonas Brothers - "X (feat. Karol G)" 27.13 (-0.88)

Katy Perry - "Daisies" 25.17 (+0.48)

 

Man:

Spoiler

 

Pop

38    37   JOJO    Man    1011    950    61    0.955

+1 Spins

-20 Bullet

+0.006 Audience

 

 

[theweekend]

1. Blinding Lights : 17.580 (-100) | 86.318 (-0.799)

2. Intentions : 17.066 (-358) | 73.955 (-1.870)

3. Say So : 16.856 (-202) | 77.128 (-1.220)

4. Falling : 15.996 (-66) | 69.022 (-0.286)

5. Adore You : 13.574 (-111)  | 72.617 (-0.711)

 

maybe our prayers are finally getting heard tho it looks like something happened

[Kots]

The whole top 10 bleeding, we love to see it

[State of Grace.]

The Top 5 finally collapsing

 

I don’t see Savage/Roses going much higher tbh. And these bipolar updates for BMH...

 

Hope ROM’s callouts are good so it can finally explode

Edited June 28, 2020 by State of Grace.

[Heart.me]

BL, Say So, Adore You and Intentions can f*** off please?

[Sanni]

The whole top 10 bleeding  did something happen?

ROM better pick up fast, watermelon sugar is surging 

[farixgaga]

All these songs (finally) bleeding and there's only one song with +200 spins increase and two songs with +100 spins 

 

Boring AF 

[FAN]

Is this a record for lowest spins at #1?

[iHype.]

Radio has gotten absurdly embarrassing this year.  There are no words.

 

It is about to be July... and 7 of the top 10 were released in 2019. Last year at this time, only 2 of the top 10 were released the year prior (with "Wow" being released the last week of the previous year).

 

Only Human/Con Calma/Dancing With a Stranger/Sucker/I Don't Care/etc are still literally even top 10 in major markets playlists. Songs from an entire Summer before, that have been recurrents for nearly a year. Pop is becoming HAC/AC at this point. They're just literally only playing music the audience is completely familiar with and ignoring upcoming hits.

 

I don't know how people can still tolerate these stations anymore, audiences/ratings have taken a large dip due to COVID, but I feel like maybe they might not bounce back regardless because they are absolutely overkilling songs and I don't see how people can tolerate it.

[badgirlriri]

2 hours ago, iHype. said:

Radio has gotten absurdly embarrassing this year.  There are no words.

 

It is about to be July... and 7 of the top 10 were released in 2019. Last year at this time, only 2 of the top 10 were released the year prior (with "Wow" being released the last week of the previous year).

 

Only Human/Con Calma/Dancing With a Stranger/Sucker/I Don't Care/etc are still literally even top 10 in major markets playlists. Songs from an entire Summer before, that have been recurrents for nearly a year. Pop is becoming HAC/AC at this point. They're just literally only playing music the audience is completely familiar with and ignoring upcoming hits.

 

I don't know how people can still tolerate these stations anymore, audiences/ratings have taken a large dip due to COVID, but I feel like maybe they might not bounce back regardless because they are absolutely overkilling songs and I don't see how people can tolerate it.

All the more reason why i don't understand why they wouldn't push IYE when it got great callouts

[Prismee]

Pardon me if I'm being ignorant, but in my opinion the concept of callout scores seems like such an outdated concept, especially when callout scores for new songs take weeks or even months to be processed.

 

If a song is doing great on streaming and sales, is an inoffensive and radio-friendly pop song, I don't get why pop radio has to wait for callout scores and take their time to put it on power rotation.

 

It's really silly and it's the reason why we have hits not getting the H100 peak they deserve because of the misaligned peak on streaming and radio. And also why it's more common than ever for mega smashes to spend 20+ weeks on the top 10 of H100 because radio refuses to let them go far beyond their streaming peak.

[FAN]

2 hours ago, Prismee said:

Pardon me if I'm being ignorant, but in my opinion the concept of callout scores seems like such an outdated concept, especially when callout scores for new songs take weeks or even months to be processed.

 

If a song is doing great on streaming and sales, is an inoffensive and radio-friendly pop song, I don't get why pop radio has to wait for callout scores and take their time to put it on power rotation.

 

It's really silly and it's the reason why we have hits not getting the H100 peak they deserve because of the misaligned peak on streaming and radio. And also why it's more common than ever for mega smashes to spend 20+ weeks on the top 10 of H100 because radio refuses to let them go far beyond their streaming peak.

Callout scores are stupid. Period. Agreed. 

[farixgaga]

Billboard truly should keep downgrading radio in their formula regardless of the pandemic, it's becoming nonsense.

[Starkboy]

3 hours ago, Prismee said:

Pardon me if I'm being ignorant, but in my opinion the concept of callout scores seems like such an outdated concept, especially when callout scores for new songs take weeks or even months to be processed.

 

If a song is doing great on streaming and sales, is an inoffensive and radio-friendly pop song, I don't get why pop radio has to wait for callout scores and take their time to put it on power rotation.

 

It's really silly and it's the reason why we have hits not getting the H100 peak they deserve because of the misaligned peak on streaming and radio. And also why it's more common than ever for mega smashes to spend 20+ weeks on the top 10 of H100 because radio refuses to let them go far beyond their streaming peak.

I disagree. radio is supposed to play what listeners like. a song can have decent sales/streams but the majority of radio listeners can still dislike it (people who use streaming platforms =/ people who listen to a radio station)  that's why often polarizing songs don't go #1.  Also a song could be doing great numbers at the moment for various reasons (massive promo campaign, recent album boost, ads etc.), that doesn't mean it's what people want to listen for the next months. 

There are very few pop songs that do good on streaming and sales without radio, pop radio would be forced to play tons of urban songs (Party Girl, WHATS POPPIN and Lil Baby's tracks would be smashing pop radio right now).

 

Not to mention that radio is often the reason some songs organically become hits. especially new artists who don't have the platforms to promote heavily their songs, need radio exposure to actually happen. 

 

 

I also disagree with BB further downgrading radio's impact on the charts. Charts have become a tragic mess with all those bundles and cheap tactics. without radio they would be even more messier. 

We would have every week tons of songs debuting top10 (yeah most of the time the rap songs...imagine every rap album bomb having 10 tracks by him on the top20 hot100) only to freefall the week after.

[Starkboy]

POP

1. Blinding Lights : 17.492 (-88) | 85.576 (-0.742)

2. Intentions : 16.743 (-323) | 72.168 (-1.787)

3. Say So : 16.722 (-134) | 76.397 (-0.731)

4. Falling : 16.029 (+33) | 69.209 (+0.187)

5. Adore You : 13.497 (-77)  | 72.280 (-0.337)

6. Break My Heart : 13.487 (+135) | 62.634 (+0.387) 

7. Roses : 12.174 (+93) | 57.940 (+0.405)

8. Savage : 10.766 (+26) | 49.475 (+0.253)

9. Don't Start Now : 9.866 (-24) | 50.239 (+0.104)

10. Sunday Best : 9.420 (+59) | 39.180 (+0.275)

 

11. Rain On Me : 9.064 (+148) | 40.885 (+0.833)

12. Before You Go : 8.538 (+107) | 38.475 (+0.642)

13 (+1) Watermelon Sugar : 8.433 (+158) | 42.024 (+1.079)

14 (-1) Supalonely : 8.351 (+73) | 39.113 (+0.451)

15. Be Kind : 7.764 (-28) | 30.278 (-0.405)

16 (+1) Coffee For Your Head : 7.647 (+74) | 33.018 (+0.400)

17 (+1) Stuck With U : 7.577 (+72) | 30.554 (+0.534)

18 (-2) The Bones : 7.285 (-295) | 27.481 (-1.220)

19. Blueberry Faygo : 5.992 (+43) | 25.799 (+0.260) 

20. X : 5.034 (-95) | 15.505 (-0.366)

[Prismee]

Perhaps, anyway I'm just arguing based on personal opinion. I don't claim to know how American radio work fully but I do know they move painfully slow.

 

I'm not advocating for pop radio to play any urban song that is a streaming hit. But just looking at this year, when you look at how pop radio took their time to hop onto obvious pop smashes like DSN, BL, Say So when they're already blowing up on streaming, only to hold onto them for MONTHS long after they have peaked, even cannibalizing the subsequent singles... It's just annoying at this point. 

 

And now because pop radio can't let go of DSN, Physical never even got sent to pop radio. That's the other thing stupid about US radio where it's hard for an artist to have multiple songs (unless you're in your imperial phase like Katy TD era or Taylor 1989 era). DSN must have fully peaked and collapsing before radio can play another Dua song. Or you have instances where labels pull a song off the radio just to make way for the next single. And so because DSN has finally started falling, BMH can rise now. Whereas pretty much in the rest of the world, they're ready for a 4th Dua single already.

 

And then you have cases like MOM and Intentions where the songs didn't even do amazing on callouts, but somehow gets a push to #1 MONTHS after it has peaked. And how songs like Circles and Sucker were kept on power rotation for 25+ weeks straight  You can't tell me a listener actively wants to listen to these songs for 6 months straight.

 

Once again, I'm just ranting so ignore me if my argument bears no weight.