Armani? Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, betterwerk said: Still people didn't stream it and didn't buy it!!! They also didnt vomit when it came on every 20 minutes.
betterwerk Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Armani? said: They also didnt vomit when it came on every 20 minutes. My oh my is a bop.of course radio supported it
Armani? Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, betterwerk said: My oh my is a bop.of course radio supported it I dont think the song is bad, but the callouts say otherwise.
Hot Volcano Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Armani? said: I dont think Delicate was LAST in call outs when it was #1 Callout scores only have impact when it comes to longevity and that can be confirmed by any radio expert on this site. Do you really think radio stations check out the callouts every Friday and go "Oh my, that Camila single is down two positions let me remove it from our playlists!" Ofc not, they are checking out to see which song is sticking with the listeners in order to determine will it stay in their playlists. My Oh My slowly climbed for months until it reached the top 3 and stayed there for weeks. It exploded on the radio while it was nearly #1. It kept slowly dropping on the callouts later on, but the radio stations still kept it in their playlists (probably due to lack of new singles, they did the same with many other songs like Adore You, Don't Start Now which were released during the same time as My Oh My). The point is, you guys are pushing hard this narrative that it was all payola when in fact, radio listeners STANNED My Oh My for months on both Pop and HAC stations. Just like the streaming audience was STANNING back in January when they pushed it to top 10 on US Spotify and top 25 on US Apple Music. To conclude, My Oh My was a radio and a streaming hit (proved by the fact it has over 270m US streams according to HDD) Edited May 3, 2020 by Hot Volcano
Armani? Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, Hot Volcano said: To conlude, My Oh My was a radio and a streaming hit (proved by the fact it has over 270m US streams according to HDD) Not true, but I guess you'll keep using those false numbers till Billboard YE clocks you in December
Ger Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Jef said: Be Kind? Pop 0 41 MARSHMELLO & HALSEY Be Kind 867 0 867 4.817 +250 Spins +250 Bullet +1.202 Audience
Hot Volcano Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: Not true, but I guess you'll keep using those false numbers till Billboard YE clocks you in December As far as I know, Billboard doesn't provide us with actual streaming numbers on the YEC, so I don't see who can I be "clocked"? HDD is an official source, sorry but I'm gonna believe them over some ATRL user who obviously isn't a fan of miss Cabello
Armani? Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Hot Volcano said: As far as I know, Billboard doesn't provide us with actual streaming numbers on the YEC, so I don't see who can I be "clocked"? HDD is an official source, sorry but I'm gonna believe them over some ATRL user who obviously isn't a fan of miss Cabello You can compare the differences of BB YE and HDD YE
Hot Volcano Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Armani? said: You can compare the differences of BB YE and HDD YE Billboard only posts the top 75 Streaming Songs, and considering My Oh My is barely in the top 40 on the current HDD list, I don't think it will appear at all, so but you won't be able to prove your point
Armani? Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Billboard only posts the top 75 Streaming Songs, and considering My Oh My is barely in the top 40 on the current HDD list, I don't think it will appear at all, so but you won't be able to prove your point Are you actually saying My Oh My might miss top 75 of the BB Streaming Year End and at the same time expecting us to believe My Oh My is almost 2X Platinum?
Hot Volcano Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: Are you actually saying My Oh My might miss top 75 of the BB Streaming Year End and at the same time expecting us to believe My Oh My is almost 2X Platinum? Every year there are like 4-5 female songs in the top 75 YEC Streaming chart, it missing it won't mean anything
iHype. Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 My Oh My has to be talked about more on this forum than any actual Hot 100 #1 the past year
Starkboy Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 I have no idea why Camila's stans want to make MOM like a "streaming hit" when it has less than 300M streams despite the fact it's been on TTH for over 5 months (and got tons of airplay and promo). Watermelon Sugar by Harry Styles has more US streams despite being a promo single. anyway, since 1/3 of 2020 has gone, here's the pop YTD so far: 1. DUA LIPA - Don't Start Now 281,296 2. POST MALONE - Circles 269,868 3. BLACKBEAR - Hot Girl Bummer 219,495 4. HARRY STYLES - Adore You 213,387 5. MAROON 5 - Memories 209,577 6. ARIZONA ZERVAS - Roxanne 208,420 7. BILLIE EILISH - everything i wanted 199,745 8. THE WEEKND - Blinding Lights 197,344 9. CAMILA CABELLO - My Oh My f/DaBaby 186,016 10. SELENA GOMEZ - Lose You To Love Me 184,526 11. THE WEEKND - Heartless 179,679 12. TONES AND I - Dance Monkey 167,785 13. LIZZO - Good As Hell 155,428 14. LEWIS CAPALDI - Someone You Loved 151,222 15. DOJA CAT - Say So 115,466 16. JUSTIN BIEBER - Intentions f/Quavo 111,371 17. JONAS BROTHERS - Only Human 108,449 18. BLACK EYED PEAS X J BALVIN - RITMO (Bad Boys For Life) 105,846 19. SHAED - Trampoline 89,782 20. HALSEY - You should be sad 86,223 21. DAN + SHAY & JUSTIN BIEBER - 10,000 Hours 83,057 22. LIZZO - Truth Hurts 80,980 23. TREVOR DANIEL - Falling 79,140 24. BILLIE EILISH - bad guy 77,499 25. SAM SMITH & NORMANI - Dancing With A Stranger 77,050 26. ED SHEERAN - Beautiful People f/Khalid 72,672 27. JONAS BROTHERS - Sucker 71,024 28. SHAWN MENDES & CAMILA CABELLO - Senorita 69,281 29. ED SHEERAN & JUSTIN BIEBER - I Don't Care 67,441 30. JONAS BROTHERS - What A Man Gotta Do 66,374 31. LADY GAGA - Stupid Love 65,619 32. RODDY RICCH - The Box 64,616 33. KHALID - Talk 59,287 34. LIL NAS X - Panini 54,888 35. DEMI LOVATO - I Love Me 53,841 36. ED SHEERAN - South Of The Border 51,857 37. JUSTIN BIEBER - Yummy 50,750 38. PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes 49,996 39. POST MALONE - Goodbyes f/Young Thug 49,577 40. LEWIS CAPALDI - Before You Go 48,562 41. TAYLOR SWIFT - The Man 47,846 42. KHALID X DISCLOSURE - Know Your Worth 47,679 43. BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside 46,064 44. SELENA GOMEZ - Rare 44,073 45. SHAWN MENDES - If I Can't Have You 43,855 46. SAM SMITH - How Do You Sleep? 43,830 47. REGARD - Ride It 42,331 48. HALSEY - Without Me 41,955 49. 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood 41,205 50. ARIANA GRANDE - 7 Rings 41,110
potent Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 So Dua could get her second year end pop #1 Of course it’s early in the year but seems like it still has a good shot if HGB is the next closest competitor (Circles definitely won’t overtake it)
Gaia Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: Callout scores only have impact when it comes to longevity and that can be confirmed by any radio expert on this site. Do you really think radio stations check out the callouts every Friday and go "Oh my, that Camila single is down two positions let me remove it from our playlists!" Ofc not, they are checking out to see which song is sticking with the listeners in order to determine will it stay in their playlists. My Oh My slowly climbed for months until it reached the top 3 and stayed there for weeks. It exploded on the radio while it was nearly #1. It kept slowly dropping on the callouts later on, but the radio stations still kept it in their playlists (probably due to lack of new singles, they did the same with many other songs like Adore You, Don't Start Now which were released during the same time as My Oh My). The point is, you guys are pushing hard this narrative that it was all payola when in fact, radio listeners STANNED My Oh My for months on both Pop and HAC stations. Just like the streaming audience was STANNING back in January when they pushed it to top 10 on US Spotify and top 25 on US Apple Music. To conclude, My Oh My was a radio and a streaming hit (proved by the fact it has over 270m US streams according to HDD) Girl it was Top 10 on spotify for like ONE day and it was like Top 3 on TTH
Ger Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) OVERALL 1. The Weeknd - "Blinding Lights" 153.04 (-0.85) 2. Dua Lipa - "Don't Start Now" 130.82 (-0.02) 3. Doja Cat - "Say So" 127.83 (+1.15) 4. Camila Cabello - "My Oh My (feat. DaBaby)" 118.87 (+0.39) 5. Harry Styles - "Adore You" 117.99 (-0.44) 6. Post Malone - "Circles" 107.57 (-1.07) 7. Roddy Ricch - "The Box" 102.59 (-0.23) 8 (+2) Justin Bieber - "Intentions (feat. Quavo)" 95.57 (+0.11) 9 (-1) Maren Morris - "The Bones" 95.05 (-0.81) 10 (-1) Billie Eilish - "everything i wanted" 93.41 (-2.40) 11. Drake - "Toosie Slide" 91.83 (+1.82) 12. Maroon 5 - "Memories" 75.90 (-0.32) 13. Lewis Capaldi - "Someone You Loved" 73.29 (+0.08) 14. Black Eyed Peas x J Balvin - "RITMO (Bad Boys for Life)" 67.10 (-0.07) 15. Future - "Life Is Good (feat. Drake)" 62.18 (-0.72) 16. Blake Shelton - "Nobody But You (feat. Gwen Stefani)" 62.11 (+0.63) 17. Morgan Wallen - "Chasin' You" 60.50 (-0.06) 18 (+3) Megan Thee Stallion - "Savage" 54.95 (+2.82) ** 19 (-1) Thomas Rhett - "Beer Can't Fix (feat. Jon Pardi)" 54.80 (+0.77) 20 (-1) blackbear - "hot girl bummer" 51.83 (-1.15) The Weeknd - "Heartless" 51.26 (-1.44) Luke Combs - "Does to Me (feat. Eric Church)" 49.83 (-0.06) Gabby Barrett - "I Hope" 49.71 (-1.36) Roddy Ricch - "High Fasion (feat. Mustard)" 47.80 (+0.71) Trevor Daniel - "Falling" 46.02 (+0.55) Dua Lipa - "Break My Heart" 42.92 (+0.78) twenty one pilots - "Level of Concern" 37.67 (+0.56) The Weeknd - "In Your Eyes" 34.23 (+0.73) Lewis Capaldi - "Before You Go" 33.56 (+0.38) BENEE - "Supalonely (feat. Gus Dapperton)" 27.05 (+0.58) Powfu - "death bed (feat. beabadoobee) [coffee for your head]" 26.69 (+1.43) Lil Mosey - "Blueberry Faygo" 25.82 (+0.69) SAINt JHN - "Roses (Imanbek Remix)" 24.74 (+1.41) Edited May 4, 2020 by Ger-55
Gaia Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 It’s so transparent when a song stops gaining as soon as it hits #1
FAN Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 52 minutes ago, Gaia said: It’s so transparent when a song stops gaining as soon as it hits #1 In Camila’s defence it’s already close to 19.8k spins which is basically the ceiling. How much further did you want it to gain?
iHype. Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Gaia said: It’s so transparent when a song stops gaining as soon as it hits #1 Or songs like Circles, that stopped gaining the exact day after last week's tracking week when it broke the top 10 record Or when songs are clearly peaking in top 5, then have a sudden surge to #1. I wonder how exactly these conversations with programmers work where they get them to give a song one last boost or drop it after something has been achieved.
Green Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Mediabase Radio credits Say So as a solo song and Savage as the remix version http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/urbaninsite/Charts.asp?format=Y0R
Gaia Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, iHype. said: Or songs like Circles, that stopped gaining the exact day after last week's tracking week when it broke the top 10 record Or when songs are clearly peaking in top 5, then have a sudden surge to #1. I wonder how exactly these conversations with programmers work where they get them to give a song one last boost or drop it after something has been achieved. I really don't understand. I know it's illegal, but it clearly is still very common practice to pay for airplay. Is it one of those laws that has like 0 enforcement?
Gaia Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 3 hours ago, FAN said: In Camila’s defence it’s already close to 19.8k spins which is basically the ceiling. How much further did you want it to gain? Chile it was gaining 150-200 spins daily until it hit #1 and then immediately stopped gaining. With your logic it would have been started slowing down as it reached 17-18k spins. There is a clear difference between these two scenarios. You're making it seem like Camila had #2 when she very obviously had #1 #1: #2: +250 +250 +200 +220 +225 +190 +270 +185 +220 +170 +200 +142 +210 +110 +200 +90 +11 +50 -20 +20 I mean #2 shows a gradual decline as it peaks in spins, emphasizing it's reached it's potential. #1 shows a drastic decline and immediate loss of spins rather than slowing down because it clearly not organically pushed by radio. They were paid to push it to #1, and then once that obligation is filled they drop it.
Raphy23 Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Starkboy said: I have no idea why Camila's stans want to make MOM like a "streaming hit" when it has less than 300M streams despite the fact it's been on TTH for over 5 months (and got tons of airplay and promo). Watermelon Sugar by Harry Styles has more US streams despite being a promo single. anyway, since 1/3 of 2020 has gone, here's the pop YTD so far: 1. DUA LIPA - Don't Start Now 281,296 2. POST MALONE - Circles 269,868 3. BLACKBEAR - Hot Girl Bummer 219,495 4. HARRY STYLES - Adore You 213,387 5. MAROON 5 - Memories 209,577 6. ARIZONA ZERVAS - Roxanne 208,420 7. BILLIE EILISH - everything i wanted 199,745 8. THE WEEKND - Blinding Lights 197,344 9. CAMILA CABELLO - My Oh My f/DaBaby 186,016 10. SELENA GOMEZ - Lose You To Love Me 184,526 11. THE WEEKND - Heartless 179,679 12. TONES AND I - Dance Monkey 167,785 13. LIZZO - Good As Hell 155,428 14. LEWIS CAPALDI - Someone You Loved 151,222 15. DOJA CAT - Say So 115,466 16. JUSTIN BIEBER - Intentions f/Quavo 111,371 17. JONAS BROTHERS - Only Human 108,449 18. BLACK EYED PEAS X J BALVIN - RITMO (Bad Boys For Life) 105,846 19. SHAED - Trampoline 89,782 20. HALSEY - You should be sad 86,223 21. DAN + SHAY & JUSTIN BIEBER - 10,000 Hours 83,057 22. LIZZO - Truth Hurts 80,980 23. TREVOR DANIEL - Falling 79,140 24. BILLIE EILISH - bad guy 77,499 25. SAM SMITH & NORMANI - Dancing With A Stranger 77,050 26. ED SHEERAN - Beautiful People f/Khalid 72,672 27. JONAS BROTHERS - Sucker 71,024 28. SHAWN MENDES & CAMILA CABELLO - Senorita 69,281 29. ED SHEERAN & JUSTIN BIEBER - I Don't Care 67,441 30. JONAS BROTHERS - What A Man Gotta Do 66,374 31. LADY GAGA - Stupid Love 65,619 32. RODDY RICCH - The Box 64,616 33. KHALID - Talk 59,287 34. LIL NAS X - Panini 54,888 35. DEMI LOVATO - I Love Me 53,841 36. ED SHEERAN - South Of The Border 51,857 37. JUSTIN BIEBER - Yummy 50,750 38. PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes 49,996 39. POST MALONE - Goodbyes f/Young Thug 49,577 40. LEWIS CAPALDI - Before You Go 48,562 41. TAYLOR SWIFT - The Man 47,846 42. KHALID X DISCLOSURE - Know Your Worth 47,679 43. BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside 46,064 44. SELENA GOMEZ - Rare 44,073 45. SHAWN MENDES - If I Can't Have You 43,855 46. SAM SMITH - How Do You Sleep? 43,830 47. REGARD - Ride It 42,331 48. HALSEY - Without Me 41,955 49. 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood 41,205 50. ARIANA GRANDE - 7 Rings 41,110 Great top 4
gotportugal Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 13 hours ago, potent said: So Dua could get her second year end pop #1 Of course it’s early in the year but seems like it still has a good shot if HGB is the next closest competitor (Circles definitely won’t overtake it) Might not, Circles might show more longevity in the long-run than Miss Dua. Still, DSN is now 4 weeks more in the top5 than New Rules was, and it's 5 weeks short of surpassing it in weeks in the top10
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