charts discussion US Airplay Discussion

[iHype.]

2 hours ago, FAN said:

Pop radio moves slower. All the songs above him have been charting longer. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. The only single that's truly raced up the Pop chart in 2018 is The Middle and that's a true mainstream pop song. 

 

Stop pushing your "Pop hates Drake" agenda when he's in the Top 5 and still seeing big gains. 

Every single #1 debut in the past 5 years – Look What You Made, I’m the One, Shape of You, Can’t Stop the Feeling, PILLOWTALK, Hello, What Do You Mean, Shake It Off were all higher by their 12th week (bar Harlem Shake which was an instrumental & meme so it was never going to get radio play) so your point is discarded girl. Next caller. 

[FAN]

37 minutes ago, iHype. said:

Every single #1 debut in the past 5 years – Look What You Made, I’m the One, Shape of You, Can’t Stop the Feeling, PILLOWTALK, Hello, What Do You Mean, Shake It Off were all higher by their 12th week (bar Harlem Shake which was an instrumental & meme so it was never going to get radio play) so your point is discarded girl. Next caller. 

Literally all of those songs had catchy chorus' made for pop radio. Of course they would catch on quicker. And almost all of them had radio deals which quickened there chart runs. Your point remains invalid. Pop is supporting Drake and God's Plan is on track to potentially top the chart or at least come close. 

[Headlock]

55 minutes ago, iHype. said:

Every single #1 debut in the past 5 years – Look What You Made, I’m the One, Shape of You, Can’t Stop the Feeling, PILLOWTALK, Hello, What Do You Mean, Shake It Off were all higher by their 12th week (bar Harlem Shake which was an instrumental & meme so it was never going to get radio play) so your point is discarded girl. Next caller. 

Those are all pop songs though.

Also if you want to get technical LWYMMD didn't debut at #1.

[iHype.]

59 minutes ago, FAN said:

Literally all of those songs had catchy chorus' made for pop radio. Of course they would catch on quicker. And almost all of them had radio deals which quickened there chart runs. Your point remains invalid. Pop is supporting Drake and God's Plan is on track to potentially top the chart or at least come close. 

God's Plan has a catchy hook literally made for radio? It's like if a song has a rapper y'all automatically just label it trap music meant for the underground.

 

And your argument was that radio is slow, and when evidence was shown that every other #1 debut was higher by now, now the excuse changes to 'well the song is less catchy'. 

 

Any song that spent 11 weeks at #1 should've reached #1 by now was always the point. Even if it does end up reaching #1, the fact it had to be at the top for so long to do that is what is unfair. If God's Plan fell from #1 after 1-3 weeks like most #1 debuts, then it probably would've struggled to even peak top 10 on Pop. The song had to perform past every expectation and more, just for it to get decent airplay on Pop which is a problem since Drake is such a goliath Pop name at the moment he shouldn't merit that treatment.

[Gabe²]

It’s called “crossover”.

when a hit song from its main radio format crosses over to Pop radio.

it always takes forever for a crossover song to climb Pop radio.

 

i didn’t see anyone complaining when Thunder was released in April and didn’t start climbing Pop radio till October months after it had peaked on ALT radio.

 

it happened to Believer, Thunder, Feel It Still, etc. it happened to 21 Pilots too. All of their singles Ride, Heatens, Stressed Out were #1 On ALT radio months before Pop even touched the songs.

 

If Pop radio is not your format you have to prove yourself before Pop radio touches the song. Drake’s song proved itself and that’s why it’s #5 on Pop radio and still climbing. It’s not like the song is #40 on Pop after its Hot 100 Domination.

 

Cardi’s song was #1 on Billboard and yet it only reached like #23 on Pop because it wasn’t its main format 

[Starkboy]

POP

1. The Middle : 18.393 (-77) | 109.059 (-0.604)

2. Never Be The Same : 16.137 (+112) | 90.479 (+0.672)

3. Meant To Be : 15.275 (+81) | 79.167 (+0.566)

4. Pray For Me : 12.737 (+145) | 78.463 (+1.540)

5. God's Plan : 12.284 (+201) | 70.630 (+1.524)

7 (+1) New Rules : 9.877 (+13) | 72.739 (+0.107)

10. Whatever It Takes : 9.460 (+64) | 44.991 (+0.360)

 

11. Wait : 9.146 (-19) | 47.038 (+0.286)

13. Mine : 7.903 (+121) | 42.251 (+0.688)

14. FRIENDS : 7.744 (+102) | 37.206 (+0.497)

15. In My Blood : 7.280 (+110) | 41.866 (+0.909)

16. No Excuses : 6.660 (-7) | 27.876 (+0.029)

19. All The Stars : 6.010 (+54) | 32.436 (-0.214)

20. Tell Me You Love Me : 5.939 (+52) | 29.483 (+0.444)

 

21. Psycho : 5.389 (+128) | 31.401 (+1.134)

22. IDGAF : 5.131 (+34) | 23.421 (+0.345)

23. Delicate : 4.353 (+13) | 19.992 (+0.178)

25. On The Loose : 3.313 (+4) | 11.701 (+0.091)

26. Alone : 3.209 (+54) | 15.865 (+0.378)

27. No Roots : 2.793 (-3) | 11.176 (+0.071)

29. One Kiss : 2.594 (+136) | 18.518 (+0.491)

30. Done For Me : 2.489 (+125) | 11.042 (+0.807)

[omrimayo]

1 hour ago, Starkboy said:

POP

1. The Middle : 18.393 (-77) | 109.059 (-0.604)

2. Never Be The Same : 16.137 (+112) | 90.479 (+0.672)

3. Meant To Be : 15.275 (+81) | 79.167 (+0.566)

4. Pray For Me : 12.737 (+145) | 78.463 (+1.540)

5. God's Plan : 12.284 (+201) | 70.630 (+1.524)

7 (+1) New Rules : 9.877 (+13) | 72.739 (+0.107)

10. Whatever It Takes : 9.460 (+64) | 44.991 (+0.360)

 

11. Wait : 9.146 (-19) | 47.038 (+0.286)

13. Mine : 7.903 (+121) | 42.251 (+0.688)

14. FRIENDS : 7.744 (+102) | 37.206 (+0.497)

15. In My Blood : 7.280 (+110) | 41.866 (+0.909)

16. No Excuses : 6.660 (-7) | 27.876 (+0.029)

19. All The Stars : 6.010 (+54) | 32.436 (-0.214)

20. Tell Me You Love Me : 5.939 (+52) | 29.483 (+0.444)

 

21. Psycho : 5.389 (+128) | 31.401 (+1.134)

22. IDGAF : 5.131 (+34) | 23.421 (+0.345)

23. Delicate : 4.353 (+13) | 19.992 (+0.178)

25. On The Loose : 3.313 (+4) | 11.701 (+0.091)

26. Alone : 3.209 (+54) | 15.865 (+0.378)

27. No Roots : 2.793 (-3) | 11.176 (+0.071)

29. One Kiss : 2.594 (+136) | 18.518 (+0.491)

30. Done For Me : 2.489 (+125) | 11.042 (+0.807)

Insane about GP instead NFW already there lol.

[levi_valvi]

8 hours ago, iHype. said:

Every single #1 debut in the past 5 years – Look What You Made, I’m the One, Shape of You, Can’t Stop the Feeling, PILLOWTALK, Hello, What Do You Mean, Shake It Off were all higher by their 12th week (bar Harlem Shake which was an instrumental & meme so it was never going to get radio play) so your point is discarded girl. Next caller. 

you never responded to my call, you can start with that. @Gabe² made a lot of points about crossover too. 

[Mediabase]

THURSDAY 4/19 UPDATE:

CHR/Pop:
9 7 DUA LIPA New Rules 9877 10052 -175 72.739

+13 Spins
+102 Bullet
+0.107 Audience

 

Up from no9 to no7. 

[Jorq]

Yeah, Drake having the biggest AI increase and some people say he's not touched by pop radio nnn

[Starkboy]

Just now, Jorq said:

Yeah, Drake having the biggest AI increase and some people say he's not touched by pop radio nnn

the song is months old and spent like 10 weeks at #1. it should have peaked already by now

[Jorq]

4 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

the song is months old and spent like 10 weeks at #1. it should have peaked already by now

not all songs climb their way to #1 in less than a month. 

 

One Kiss already at #29  I love it. It's such a good song.

[LesFleur]

URBAN (Published US)

TANK When We

17 15 TANK When We 2188 1934 254 12.414

#15 (+1)

+15 spins

+0.019 audience

URBAN AC (Published US)

TANK When We

2 2 TANKWhen We 1793 1793 0 12.073

#2 (=)

-25 spins

-0.217 audience

Total Audience: 24.48700 (-0.198)

 

URBAN AC (Published US)

EN VOGUE Rocket

10 10 EN VOGUE Rocket 1345 1341 4 7.747
#10 (-2)

-42 spins

-0.323 audience

 

URBAN AC (Published US)

CHANTE MOORE One Love

44 43 CHANTE MOORE One Love f/Lewis Sky 76 64 12 0.437

#43 (+2)

+6 spins

+0.021 audience

 

Chante's coming for top 40 yaaas

 

 

Edited April 19, 2018 by JonathanLGardner

[Mediabase]

THURSDAY UPDATE:

1 1 ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY The Middle 18393 18313 80 109.059
3 2 CAMILA CABELLO Never Be The Same 16137 14959 1178 90.479
2 3 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 15275 14970 305 79.167
5 4 THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR Pray For Me 12737 11891 846 78.463
6 5 DRAKE God's Plan 12284 11368 916 70.630
4 6 BRUNO MARS & CARDI B Finesse 11477 13281 -1804 68.560
9 7 DUA LIPA New Rules 9877 10052 -175 72.739
7 8 G-EAZY & HALSEY Him & I 9790 11206 -1416 57.496
8 9 NF Let You Down 9579 10974 -1395 56.109
11 10 IMAGINE DRAGONS Whatever It Takes 9460 9015 445 44.991

12 11 MAROON 5 Wait 9146 8763 383 47.038
10 12 ED SHEERAN Perfect 8642 9713 -1071 57.424
14 13 BAZZI Mine 7903 7064 839 42.251
13 14 MARSHMELLO & ANNE-MARIE Friends 7744 7161 583 37.206
17 15 SHAWN MENDES In My Blood 7280 6368 912 41.866
16 16 MEGHAN TRAINOR No Excuses 6660 6630 30 27.876
15 17 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Say Something f/C Stapleton 6491 6672 -181 31.491
18 18 LAUV I Like Me Better 6243 5808 435 28.291
19 19 KENDRICK LAMAR & SZA All The Stars 6010 5745 265 32.436
20 20 DEMI LOVATO Tell Me You Love Me 5939 5682 257 29.483

21 21 POST MALONE Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign 5389 4759 630 31.401
22 22 DUA LIPA IDGAF 5131 4715 416 23.421
24 23 TAYLOR SWIFT Delicate 4353 3957 396 19.992
23 24 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Want You Back 4271 4259 12 18.231
25 25 NIALL HORAN On The Loose 3313 3159 154 11.701
26 26 HALSEY Alone f/Big Sean, Stefflon Don 3209 2804 405 15.865
27 27 ALICE MERTON No Roots 2793 2756 37 11.176
29 28 CALVIN HARRIS & DUA LIPA One Kiss 2594 2137 457 18.518
28 29 FOSTER THE PEOPLE Sit Next To Me 2537 2419 118 9.313
35 30 CHARLIE PUTH Done For Me f/Kehlani 2489 1117 1372 11.042

31 31 LOGIC & MARSHMELLO Everyday 1950 1658 292 6.094
30 32 WHY DON'T WE Trust Fund Baby 1706 1918 -212 5.456
32 33 THE CHAINSMOKERS Everybody Hates Me 1470 1495 -25 5.154
33 34 KENT JONES Merengue 1348 1337 11 3.108
34 35 MIGOS Stir Fry 1210 1245 -35 3.597
36 36 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 1071 904 167 3.047
38 37 AJR Sober Up f/Rivers Cuomo 965 852 113 2.599
39 38 RUDIMENTAL These Days f/Glyne, Macklemore 914 846 68 1.414
37 39 G-EAZY Sober f/Charlie Puth 888 859 29 1.905
44 40 IN REAL LIFE Tattoo (How 'Bout You) 873 720 153 2.245

43 41 ARLISSA W/JONAS BLUE Hearts Ain't Gonna Lie 785 749 36 1.203
45 42 BULOW Not A Love Song 762 689 73 1.679
47 43 SAM SMITH Pray f/Logic 701 601 100 2.198
49 44 LIL DICKY Freaky Friday f/Chris Brown 658 499 159 2.426
48 45 ECHOSMITH Over My Head 646 569 77 0.954
50 46 LIVVIA Catch A Body f/Quavo 572 475 97 1.133
72 47 DRAKE Nice For What 559 128 431 3.821
-- 48 ZAYN Let Me 547 0 547 3.827
53 49 BIG BOI All Night 537 449 88 1.649
52 50 EMINEM Nowhere Fast f/Kehlani 525 456 69 0.648

[FAN]

8 hours ago, iHype. said:

God's Plan has a catchy hook literally made for radio? It's like if a song has a rapper y'all automatically just label it trap music meant for the underground.

 

And your argument was that radio is slow, and when evidence was shown that every other #1 debut was higher by now, now the excuse changes to 'well the song is less catchy'. 

 

Any song that spent 11 weeks at #1 should've reached #1 by now was always the point. Even if it does end up reaching #1, the fact it had to be at the top for so long to do that is what is unfair. If God's Plan fell from #1 after 1-3 weeks like most #1 debuts, then it probably would've struggled to even peak top 10 on Pop. The song had to perform past every expectation and more, just for it to get decent airplay on Pop which is a problem since Drake is such a goliath Pop name at the moment he shouldn't merit that treatment.

Pop radio is slower than usual right now. We've been talking about it for weeks. And God's Plan is not nearly as catchy as any of those songs you mentioned.

 

Youre acting so entitled  Drake is not a pop artist. Like many people have told you, his songs crossover and become huge on Pop after they've already hit it big on his core formats. 

 

I also love how you conveniantly ignored the fact that the majority of the #1 debuts had radio deals on Pop which causes songs to always peak early. 

 

OT: Drake with the highest spin increase on the whole chart  

[Mediabase]

Dua Lipa has THREE songs in the Top30 and ALL THREE are increasing.

 

9 7 DUA LIPA New Rules 9877 10052 -175 72.739

+13 Spins
+102 Bullet
+0.107 Audience

 

 

22 22 DUA LIPA IDGAF 5131 4715 416 23.421

+34 Spins
+0.345 Audience

 

 

29 28 CALVIN HARRIS & DUA LIPA One Kiss 2594 2137 457 18.518

+136 Spins
+0.491 Audience

Edited April 19, 2018 by Mediabase

[Rico Shameless v2]

1 minute ago, Mediabase said:

Dia Lipa has THREE songs in the Top30 and ALL THREE are increasing.

 

9 7 DUA LIPA New Rules 9877 10052 -175 72.739

+13 Spins
+102 Bullet
+0.107 Audience

 

 

22 22 DUA LIPA IDGAF 5131 4715 416 23.421

+34 Spins
+0.345 Audience

 

 

29 28 CALVIN HARRIS & DUA LIPA One Kiss 2594 2137 457 18.518

+136 Spins
+0.491 Audience

 A Queen 

[Sinister]

The problem is not necessarily that Pop radio refuses to play the song, its more so that pop has the biggest influence by an overwhelming amount and that's why we feel songs should get played there

 

Nevertheless, God's Plan  really isnt a hardcore rap song and isnt even filled with curses. I really dont see that much different from it and That's What I Like

 

If anything, Finesse should've had a harder time on Pop than God's Plan

[R!ck]

1 hour ago, FAN said:

Pop radio is slower than usual right now. We've been talking about it for weeks. And God's Plan is not nearly as catchy as any of those songs you mentioned.

 

Youre acting so entitled  Drake is not a pop artist. Like many people have told you, his songs crossover and become huge on Pop after they've already hit it big on his core formats. 

 

I also love how you conveniantly ignored the fact that the majority of the #1 debuts had radio deals on Pop which causes songs to always peak early. 

 

OT: Drake with the highest spin increase on the whole chart  

Reading thru his latest posts this is the key right there  Drake is on top of the world but he's still not satisfied  people have given very valid points/facts about pop radio over and over but he still is reluctant...

 

I'm glad God's Plan got a +201 today on Pop, the song may be reaching top 3.  

Edited April 19, 2018 by R!ck

[iHype.]

2 hours ago, FAN said:

Pop radio is slower than usual right now. We've been talking about it for weeks. And God's Plan is not nearly as catchy as any of those songs you mentioned.

 

Youre acting so entitled  Drake is not a pop artist. Like many people have told you, his songs crossover and become huge on Pop after they've already hit it big on his core formats. 

 

I also love how you conveniantly ignored the fact that the majority of the #1 debuts had radio deals on Pop which causes songs to always peak early. 

 

OT: Drake with the highest spin increase on the whole chart  

2

Finesse reached #1 by its 12th week, so how is Pop radio slower than usual right now? Also Finesse had no radio deal, and the previous single he released flopped. So the excuse there is?

 

Drake makes music that is largely consumed by the Pop audience. It's not that hard to understand.

 

Bruno this entire era has made throwback R&B music, yet it gets huge play on Pop in addition to at Urban/Urban AC/Rhythmic because his music is largely consumed by a Pop audience.

[Green]

Pop being late with God's Plan helps him with longevity on the Hot 100 though, especially now that he peaked on urban. So maybe it's better for him  

[Mediabase]

POP
2 3 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 15275 14970 305 79.167
+ 81 spins
+ 122 bullet
+ 0.566 audience

HOT AC
1 1 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 6562 6478 84 39.655
+ 18 spins
- 4 bullet
+ 0.310 audience

AC
13 11 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 525 377 148 3.048
+ 43 spins
+ 27 bullet
+ 0.227 audience

RHYTHMIC
42 42 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 455 479 -24 1.774
= spins
- 9 bullet
- 0.033 audience

COUNTRY
3 1 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 8437 8185 252 57.911
+ 76 spins
+ 50 bullet
+ 0.243 audience

[Mediabase]

POP:
16 16 MEGHAN TRAINOR No Excuses 6660 6630 30 27.876

-7 Spins
-34 Bullet
+0.029 Audience

HOT AC:
11 9 MEGHAN TRAINOR No Excuses 3192 3040 152 16.852

+2 Spins
-50 Bullet
-0.015 Audience

 

That's the end for this.

[Cheetos]

I hear tell me you love me quite a bit 

[Enoch]

15 hours ago, iHype. said:

Every single #1 debut in the past 5 years – Look What You Made, I’m the One, Shape of You, Can’t Stop the Feeling, PILLOWTALK, Hello, What Do You Mean, Shake It Off were all higher by their 12th week (bar Harlem Shake which was an instrumental & meme so it was never going to get radio play) so your point is discarded girl. Next caller. 

I thought Look what you made me do debuted early to debut at 1