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  1. The song debuted with less than 1.0M streams on Spotify and was labeled a "flop" pretty soon after that. However it managed to gain over 500M streams (from platforms where we can see the streaming numbers) and is still doing 500-600k daily from these platforms. Spotify - 251.752.697 (+290k) YouTube - 248.533.088 (+230k) Total - 500.285.785 Did the song really "flop" or was it just not the success we were expecting?
  2. Taylor Swift (mother) vs Olivia Rodrigo (daughter). Who has the better first two albums?
  3. Jjang

    is PTTR’s success odd?

    The song is smashing everywhere. But it sounds so safe and mid to my ears. Far from a highlight in her singles discography. Anyone agrees?
  4. Born to Run

    AM (Arctic Monkeys album) turns 10

    AM is the fifth studio album by English rock band Arctic Monkeys. It was produced by James Ford and co-produced by Ross Orton at Sage & Sound Recording in Los Angeles and Rancho De La Luna in Joshua Tree, California, and released on 9 September 2013 through Domino Recording Company. The album was promoted by the singles "R U Mine?", "Do I Wanna Know?", "Why'd You Only Call Me When You're High?", "One for the Road", "Arabella", and "Snap Out of It". It features guest appearances by Josh Homme, Bill Ryder-Jones, and Pete Thomas.
  5. The weird lead single from the beloved album “emails i can’t send” turns 2 today. ”skinny dipping” was received with mixed response because of her talking and weird story telling and confessional lyrics and didn’t charted anywhere but it became a meme staple and with time it became a beloved song that even made AjayII cry on her album reaction.
  6. Vegas was seen as the place where artists went to retire with a residency while in their flop eras. Then came Céline. We all know the story. Everyone told them the show would sink like the Titanic jajajajaja But she proved the critics wrong. Today, Vegas is as hot as ever. But not everyone can travel to see their faves. Vegas might not even be appealing to a lot of people. If it wasn’t for Céline, there would be more tours and you would have a better chance of seeing your fave at a city near you. How many shows need to flop before Vegas is cancelled or is Vegas stuck with Gaga’s jazz show?
  7. Comparing Guts to Fearless/Speaknow ie about the time Taylor was 20, it is very evident that Olivias penmanship is better and her lyrics are clever. Agree?
  8. Bongos tanked and she will never have a hit song again, what should she do? Me thinks back to Love & Hip Hop it is. Thots?
  9. If they did a collab album similar to WAP would it be successful?
  10. Two years ago today, Nicki Minaj's husband Kenneth Petty pled guilty to his 2nd sex offense charge (Failure to Register as a Sex Offender) in California. This was after his first charge of Rape that was pled down to Attempted Rape to avoid more jail time. Him and Nicki remain married today. And just before this second conviction, he and his wife were being investigated by the U.S. Marshals for harassing his rape victim, Jennifer Hough, and offering her up to $500,000 to tell the court that she lied about the rape... all in attempt to prevent Nicki's address from being made public. https://pitchfork.com/news/nicki-minaj-husband-kenneth-petty-pleads-guilty-to-failing-to-register-as-a-sex-offender/ https://www.thedailybeast.com/nicki-minaj-and-husband-kenneth-pettys-campaign-to-silence-his-sexual-assault-victim Crazy how time flies!
  11. This was so sweet and iconic of her. I love how both these women have always respected and rooted for each other
  12. Most songs are now trending towards around 2:30 minutes. Do you see it happening that it will creep down to 1 minute or less in the near future? People’s attention spans are decreasing, and music is now made to go viral. I’m guessing they’ll start removing the second verse.
  13. can we talk about this South Africa house bop? And how it deserves better
  14. yeezytaughtme

    Heard 'Em Say vs Homecoming

    Which timeless Kanye classic featuring a male pop lead singer is the better song?
  15. GraceRandolph

    Best Music Industry Titan?

    Which decade defining artist released the best music?
  16. Beyoncé has the voice, and vocal attitude to explore soul music à la Aretha Franklin and other soul music pioneers. Beyoncé's voice has improved remarkably since becoming more warm. Which I think would make it sound even better in this style.
  17. Not even Beyoncé or Taylor Swift are coming for GUTS acclaim, the album currently has a score of 98 on Metacritic. Does miss Olivia deserve this? Discuss.
  18. The song was released on September 3rd 2013 as the lead single from her 25th overall album (11th in English) of the same name. Fellow singer Sia co-wrote the track. It became a moderate hit around the world hitting the top 40 in many countries such as the UK (#14) South Korea (#17) Switzerland (#25) Belgium (#25) Canada (#26) Ireland (#29) Scotland (#12) France (#32) Germany (#38) Austria (#38) In her native Quebec, “Loved Me Back To Life” hit #1 on the ADISQ chart.
  19. The highly anticipated New cardi b song isn't taking off and it seems like the GP doesn't want it. Is Cardis novelty wearing off? What went wrong?
  20. I'm talking OG 2007-09 teen pop-rock princess & America's sweetheart Miley Cyrus As time passes, I realize that Olivia seems to be occupying the same space that Miley held in her early career. - The most popular Disney ex-act of their respective era - Pop-rock, but make it teen-friendly and accessible for the GP - Very similar aesthetics with bright colors, patterns, plaid skirts, Converse, family-friendly but still punky - Very public relationships with their Disney co-stars - Media trained, well-spoken role models for young girlies - Hit songs written about their publicized love triangles, heavily speculated by young stans And with GUTS being heavily inspired by 2000s pop-rock as a whole, we've seen numerous reports of Olivia songs sounding similar to Miley. Vampire inspired by See You Again (and Angels Like You), All American B*tch inspired by Start All Over Olivia's previous Taylor inspiration has been well-speculated, but is it time we ALSO recognize Miley as a main influence? DISCUSS.
  21. Ariana Grande's record label has called in lawyers after five of her unreleased tracks appeared online. Bosses at Republic Records are inves­ti­­gating how the songs were uploaded to Spotify under the fake name Adriana Venti. The songs spread like wildfire through social media with one, Before You Go There’s Something You Should Know, streamed more than 1.3million times. They are thought to be offcuts from previous albums. It’s gutting for Ariana. The songs didn’t make the cut for a reason. They aren’t finished and not ones she wants out there. Luckily the label has managed to pull them. source
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