Cefh Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, ProudLBS said: I found my excel sheet from August 2018 and her streaming has improved so much since then Let Go - 308M Goodbye Lullaby - 216M The Best Damn Thing - 208M Avril Lavigne - 205M Under My Skin - 120M At the time only Complicated was above 100M! Now she has NINE songs past that mark Using @Cefh's monthly estimates, she should finish 2021 more or less like this: Let Go - 1.1B The Best Damn Thing - 685M Goodbye Lullaby - 585M Avril Lavigne - 450M Under My Skin - 350M Head Above Water - 335M (these numbers include b-sides, remixes, acoustic versions, radio edits, etc, but not live recordings) I'm so happy for her! I was thinking about making a full data streams with both spotify and youtube numbers (including all versions of the songs that actually count as official streams) but it seems very exhausting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudLBS Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cefh said: I was thinking about making a full data streams with both spotify and youtube numbers (including all versions of the songs that actually count as official streams) but it seems very exhausting I kinda did that yesterday (just Spotify though and I forgot to include at least Knocking on Heaven's Door on Under My Skin lol). It's not too exhausting cause she only has 6 albums, but she has a few remixes and acoustic versions I wasn't keeping track of before so my Excel file is a bit of a mess. YouTube is a nightmare to keep track of; Alice has like 10 different official uploads. Plus it's dying so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RULES Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 3:59 PM, Koe said: Losing Grip being a single is not problem. The problem is Let Go having only 4 singles. How would you do the single line up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankspace2010 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, RULES said: How would you do the single line up? The record label refused to do more than 4 singles to avoid comparisons to Jagged Little Pill era. They thought it would be a death sentence to Avrils career. They purposely moved onto UMS to prevent Avril being classed as a one era Canadian artist like Alanis. It worked and Avril is still being played on radio, massive on streaming platforms. We all know Arista and Nettwerk (her management at the time) did a great job with Let Go singles. Losing Grip deserved single treatment but was too heavy for radio. It should have been Mobile. 1. Complicated 2. Sk8er Boi 3. I’m With You 4. Mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RULES Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Blankspace2010 said: The record label refused to do more than 4 singles to avoid comparisons to Jagged Little Pill era. That’s so silly. Avril could have done easily 5-6 singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koe Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, RULES said: How would you do the single line up? 1) Complicated 2) Sk8er Boi 3) I'm With You 4) Mobile 5) Losing Grip 6) Anything But Ordinary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koe Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, RULES said: That’s so silly. Avril could have done easily 5-6 singles. Yes they should've had. Let Go has completely overshadowed Under My Skin anyways, it would'nt change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudLBS Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Blankspace2010 said: The record label refused to do more than 4 singles to avoid comparisons to Jagged Little Pill era. They thought it would be a death sentence to Avrils career. They purposely moved onto UMS to prevent Avril being classed as a one era Canadian artist like Alanis. It worked and Avril is still being played on radio, massive on streaming platforms. We all know Arista and Nettwerk (her management at the time) did a great job with Let Go singles. Losing Grip deserved single treatment but was too heavy for radio. It should have been Mobile. 1. Complicated 2. Sk8er Boi 3. I’m With You 4. Mobile If they were so afraid of Alanis comparisons (I imagine in the US) why not just release more non-US singles? Losing Grip and Mobile were released in April and May, while Don't Tell Me didn't come out until March there was enough time for at least one more single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankspace2010 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, RULES said: That’s so silly. Avril could have done easily 5-6 singles. Seriously there’s an interview by Nettwerk and they were questioned on why they didn’t release 6-8 singles from the album as there were many choices and that’s the answer he gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankspace2010 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 If there would be 6 singles it would go like; Complicated Sk8er Boi Im With You Mobile Things I’ll Never Say (Id end the era here tbh) Losing Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKCuteCat Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, ProudLBS said: I kinda did that yesterday (just Spotify though and I forgot to include at least Knocking on Heaven's Door on Under My Skin lol). It's not too exhausting cause she only has 6 albums, but she has a few remixes and acoustic versions I wasn't keeping track of before so my Excel file is a bit of a mess. YouTube is a nightmare to keep track of; Alice has like 10 different official uploads. Plus it's dying so I wouldn't worry about it too much. All the bottom positions belong to Christina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKCuteCat Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Blankspace2010 said: The record label refused to do more than 4 singles to avoid comparisons to Jagged Little Pill era. They thought it would be a death sentence to Avrils career. They purposely moved onto UMS to prevent Avril being classed as a one era Canadian artist like Alanis. It worked and Avril is still being played on radio, massive on streaming platforms. We all know Arista and Nettwerk (her management at the time) did a great job with Let Go singles. Losing Grip deserved single treatment but was too heavy for radio. It should have been Mobile. 1. Complicated 2. Sk8er Boi 3. I’m With You 4. Mobile Nettwerk handled her so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicFan98 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Losing Grip flopped but it gave her her most deserving grammy nomination and one that she should have totally won. The first 4 singles were picked correctly. If I had to add 2 or 3 more there are no other options aside from ABO, TINS and Tomorrow, the later could have been a cute final winter single. Maybe ABO as the 4th single, TINS as the 5th single, LG single #6 and Tomorrow final seventh single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koe Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Losing Grip is a critics darling & a masterpiece; wich is why I'm not mad that it was picked as a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKCuteCat Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, MusicFan98 said: Losing Grip flopped but it gave her her most deserving grammy nomination and one that she should have totally won. The first 4 singles were picked correctly. If I had to add 2 or 3 more there are no other options aside from ABO, TINS and Tomorrow, the later could have been a cute final winter single. Maybe ABO as the 4th single, TINS as the 5th single, LG single #6 and Tomorrow final seventh single. Losing Grip could be the final single but the era would have been more successful if she had released Anything But Ordinary instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicFan98 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: Losing Grip could be the final single but the era would have been more successful if she had released Anything But Ordinary instead. I think it did fine as a 4th single and it managed to get a grammy nomination, it's Avril's team who let the era die aftr LG, ABO could've picked up the era so it could end on a higher note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKCuteCat Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: I think it did fine as a 4th single and it managed to get a grammy nomination, it's Avril's team who let the era die aftr LG, ABO could've picked up the era so it could end on a higher note. Well, you know that her team orginally intended to release Anything But Ordinary as the 4th single but it's Avril's idea to release LG instead. ABO would have been at least enter Top 30 and then she could've released another single off the album. I like Losing Grip but it's too heavy for pop audience and she's never appealed to rock audience. I think only her hardcore fans at the time enjoyed the song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefh Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 hours ago, ProudLBS said: I kinda did that yesterday (just Spotify though and I forgot to include at least Knocking on Heaven's Door on Under My Skin lol). It's not too exhausting cause she only has 6 albums, but she has a few remixes and acoustic versions I wasn't keeping track of before so my Excel file is a bit of a mess. YouTube is a nightmare to keep track of; Alice has like 10 different official uploads. Plus it's dying so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Yeah it's dying slowly but she had some amazing YT stats especially from TBDT and GL era (way more than her spotify numbers) Spoiler Imagine Xtina streams without the huge push from Say Something, MLJ and FTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK-79 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Blankspace2010 said: The record label refused to do more than 4 singles to avoid comparisons to Jagged Little Pill era. They thought it would be a death sentence to Avrils career. They purposely moved onto UMS to prevent Avril being classed as a one era Canadian artist like Alanis. It worked and Avril is still being played on radio, massive on streaming platforms. Didn't Alanis have a successful follow-up to JLP? I think Thank U from that album was a big hit. 8 hours ago, KKCuteCat said: Well, you know that her team orginally intended to release Anything But Ordinary as the 4th single but it's Avril's idea to release LG instead. ABO would have been at least enter Top 30 and then she could've released another single off the album. I like Losing Grip but it's too heavy for pop audience and she's never appealed to rock audience. I think only her hardcore fans at the time enjoyed the song I think they released Losing Grip to let people get a taste of what UMS would sound like. It was a massive forgotten flop and a waste of a single, but at least Billie Eyelash stans it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudLBS Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 One thing we don't really pay attention to is her number of Spotify followers, which I've been tracking for the past few days: Feb 22 - 6,871,560 Feb 23 - 6,875,306 (+3,746) Feb 24 - 6,879,844 (+4,538) Feb 25 - 6,886,219 (+6,375) Feb 26 - 6,891,725 (+5,506) On February 26th 2019 she had 3,917,351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefh Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 month update LET GO (917M) +20M 01. Complicated 392,243,000 (+8,1M) = 02. Sk8er Boi 258,965,000 (+6,1M) = 03. I'm With You 126,702,000 (+2,8M) = 04. Losing Grip 26,628,000 (+0,6M) = 05. Things I'll Never Say 20,760,000 (+0,4M) = 06. Anything But Ordinary 17,410,000 (+0,4M) = 07. Tomorrow 14,944,000 (+0,3M) = 08. Nobody's Fool 13,005,000 (+0,3M) = 09. Mobile 11,991,000 (+0,2M) = 10. My World 9,047,000 (+0,2M) = 11. Unwanted 8,915,000 (+0,2M) = 12. Naked 8,688,000 (+0,1M) = 13. Too Much To Ask 6,892,000 (+0,1M) = UNDER MY SKIN (295M) +5M 01. My Happy Ending 110,528,000 (+2,2M) = 02. Nobody's Home 45,672,000 (+0,9M) = 03. Don't Tell Me 28,934,000 (+0,6M) = 04. Slipped Away 18,647,000 (+0,3M) = 05. Fall To Pieces 18,053,000 (+0,3M) = 06. Take Me Away 15,693,000 (+0,3M) = 07. He Wasn't 14,024,000 (+0,3M) = 08. Together 8,799,000 (+0,1M) = 09. Forgotten 8,462,000 (+0,1M) = 10. How Does It Feel 8,029,000 (+0,1M) = 11. Who Knows 6,948,000 (+0,1M) = 12. Freak Out 6,725,000 (+0,1M) = 13. I Always Get What I Want 4,168,000 (+0,1M) = THE BEST DAMN THING (539M) +12M 01. Girlfriend 194,827,000 (+6,3M) = 02. When You're Gone 127,395,000 (+2,4M) = 03. Keep Holding On 68,416,000 (+1,2M) = 04. Hot 36,593,000 (+0,7M) = 05. Innocence 27,651,000 (+0,5M) = 06. The Best Damn Thing 20,182,000 (+0,4M) = 07. Runaway 10,856,000 (+0,2M) = 08. I Can Do Better 10,022,000 (+0,2M) = 09. I Will Be 7,614,000 (+0,1M) = 10. Contagious 6,340,000 (+0,1M) = 11. Everything Back But You 6,297,000 (+0,1M) = 12. Girlfriend (Dr. Luke Remix feat. Lil Mama) 5,483,000 (+0,2M) = 13. One of Those Girls 5,163,000 (+0,1M) = 14. I Don't Have To Try 5,044,000 (+0,1M) = 15. I Can Do Better - (Acoustic) 2,512,000 (+0,0M) = 16. Alone 2,305,000 (+0,1M) = 17. Girlfriend (The Submarines' Time Wrap '66 Mix) 2,199,000 (+0,0M) = GOODBYE LULLABY (466M) +9M 01. What the Hell 177,120,000 (+5,2M) = 02. Wish You Were Here 79,568,000 (+1,4M) = 03. Smile 57,877,000 (+1,1M) = 04. I Love You 21,554,000 (+0,3M) = 05. Everybody Hurts 21,311,000 (+0,3M) = 06. Alice (Extended) 18,899,000 (+0,3M) = 07. Remember When 13,164,000 (+0,2M) = 08. Wish You Were Here (Acoustic) 10,512,000 (+0,1M) = 09. Bad Reputation 10,102,000 (+0,2M) = 10. Push 9,208,000 (+0,1M) = 11. Black Star 8,415,000 (+0,1M) = 12. Darlin 7,738,000 (+0,1M) = 13. Stop Standing There 7,705,000 (+0,1M) = 14. Not Enough 7,608,000 (+0,1M) = 15. 4 Real 6,902,000 (+0,1M) = 16. What the Hell (Acoustic) 3,172,000 (+0,0M) = 17. Push (Acoustic) 2,050,000 (+0,0M) = 18. Goodbye 1,117,000 (+0,1M) = 19. What The Hell (Remix) 900,000 (+0,0M) = 20. What The Hell (Instrumental) 426,000 (+0,0M) = 21. Wish You Were Here (Instrumental) 292,000 (+0,0M) = AVRIL LAVIGNE (399M) +6M 01. Here's To Never Growing Up 129,870,000 (+2,5M) = 02. Let Me Go 55,898,000 (+0,6M) = 03. Rock N Roll 46,306,000 (+0,7M) = 04. Give You What You Like 32,458,000 (+0,4M) = 05. Hello Kitty 32,068,000 (+0,7M) = 06. Bad Girl 21,615,000 (+0,4M) = 07. How You Remind Me 10,716,000 (+0,2M) = 08. 17 10,636,000 (+0,1M) = 09. Bad Reputation 10,102,000 (+0,2M) +1 10. Hush Hush 10,075,000 (+0,1M) -1 11. Bitchin' Summer 9,285,000 (+0,1M) = 12. Falling Fast 8,805,000 (+0,1M) = 13. Hello Heartache 7,372,000 (+0,1M) = 14. Sippin' on Sunshine 6,505,000 (+0,1M) = 15. You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet 6,138,000 (+0,0M) = 16. Rock N Roll (Acoustic) 638,000 (+0,0M) = HEAD ABOVE WATER (278M) +5M 01. Head Above Water 161,193,000 (+2,4M) 02. Tell Me It's Over 30,089,000 (+0,3M) 03. Dumb Blonde 23,257,000 (+0,3M) 04. I Fell In Love With The Devil 15,181,000 (+0,5M) 05. Birdie 8,850,000 (+0,1M) 06. Warrior 7,972,000 (+0,2M) 07. It Was In Me 6,537,000 (+0,1M) 08. Goddess 5,278,000 (+0,1M) 09. Crush 5,273,000 (+0,1M) 10. Souvenir 5,021,000 (+0,1M) 11. Bigger Wow 4,328,000 (+0,1M) 12. Love Me Insane 4,182,000 (+0,1M) OTHER SONGS (+1M STREAMS) 01. When You're Gone (Acoustic Version) 14,019,000 (+0,2M) = 02. Alice 11,718,000 (+0,1M) = 03. Flames 10,389,000 (+4,8M) +3 04. Fly 7,917,000 (+0,1M) -1 05. Lean On Me 7,413,000 (+0,1M) -1 06. We Are Warriors 6,358,000 (+0,3M) -1 07. Knockin' On Heaven's' Door 4,553,000 (+0,1M) = 08. Why 4,039,000 (+0,1M) = 09. I Fell In Love With The Devil (Radio Edit) 3,543,000 (+0,1M) = 10. Imagine 3,250,000 (+0,0M) = 11. Wings Clipped 2,069,000 (+0,0M) = 12. Nobody's Home (Live Acoustic Version) 1,160,000 (+0,0M) = 13. My Happy Ending (Live Acoustic Version) 1,039,000 (+0,0M) = The biggest updates In 1 month: 01. Complicated (+8,1M) = 02. Girlfriend (+6,3M) = 03. Sk8er Boi (+6,1M) = 04. What the Hell (+5,2M) +1 05. Flames (+4,8M) -1 06. I'm With You (+2,8M) = 07. Here's To Never Growing Up (+2,5M) +1 08. Head Above Water (+2,4M) -1 09. When You're Gone (+2,4M) = 10. My Happy Ending (+2,2M) = 11. Wish You Were Here (+1,4M) = 12. Keep Holding On (+1,2M) = 13. Smile (+1,1M) = 14. Nobody's Home (+0,9M) = 15. Hot 36,593,000 (+0,7M) = Flames is her 49th song to achieve 10,000,000 streams The 50th song should be My World, Push or Bitchin' Summer (or a new song) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudLBS Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Cefh said: LET GO (917M) +20M THE BEST DAMN THING (539M) +12M GOODBYE LULLABY (466M) +9M AVRIL LAVIGNE (399M) +6M UNDER MY SKIN (295M) +5M HEAD ABOVE WATER (278M) +5M GL's streams will never cease to amaze me Edited March 1, 2021 by ProudLBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koe Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ProudLBS said: GL's streams will never cease to amaze me LG, TBDT & GL are really her streaming trinity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koe Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cefh said: The 50th song should be My World, Push or Bitchin' Summer (or a new song) Looking at the stats, it's probably going to be My World AL7's lead single! Edited March 1, 2021 by Koe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSMateus Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Let Go could have been her Teenage Dream but I think they were clever by not releasing more singles. However, ABO, My World, Mobile and Tomorrow were single worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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