Monster Megamind Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, luckythisway said: Worldwide has nothing to do with the US charts. Look at New Rules for example. I mean it's doing well irrespective of streaming weightage issues. It was going to be 1 either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Honeymoon Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, luckythisway said: Which means that sales should be weighted more in order to balance out the monopoly on the industry that streaming is creating. When digital sales were at their peak and streaming era was just in its inital phase, streaming wasn't weighted more just to "balance" things. If 80% of music consumers are using streaming now, then it's logical to weight sales more, as it clearly is the most popular format in 2017, and the charts should reflect popularity, not adjust weights to give sales the same strenght as streaming, when only very few people purchase music now. Edited November 20, 2017 by Blue Honeymoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, luckythisway said: Which means that sales should be weighted more in order to balance out the monopoly on the industry that streaming is creating. But not to the point where sales are overweighed in importance. If it comes a time where sales only account for so much, it's time to accept that and not artificially inflate their impact. This is no different when physical CD singles were dead and radio had a monopoly on Hot 100 points. At the end of the day, the weight of the metrics should match their relevance. Edited November 20, 2017 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, luckythisway said: Which means that sales should be weighted more in order to balance out the monopoly on the industry that streaming is creating. Streaming IS the industry im glad, sales have less impact now. It makes harder for “dedicated” stanbases to rig the game Edited November 20, 2017 by Enoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BrooklynBoy said: No it was not lmfaoooo. Rap 10 years ago was no better than it is now I’m screaming it was bad. The beginning of the end of hip hop by selling out for quick lil commercial ready jingles but it's still better than this era of music an insult to even suggest today's music is comparable to the past. bad became worst. In any event, I'm ok with gucci gang hitting #1. why not? urban is in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBoy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, slw84 said: it was bad. The beginning of the end of hip hop by selling out for quick lil commercial ready jingles but it's still better than this era of music an insult to even suggest today's music is comparable to the past. bad became worst. In any event, I'm ok with gucci gang hitting #1. why not? urban is in. I honestly don’t think so, 2007 was the height of commercial rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, iHype. said: You ready for the re-up? most of those are classics though and some of the best R&B music out there. Today it's literally flash in the pan trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 So in 2016-2017, Beyoncé earned 10 top 40 hot 100 hits, with 6 going top 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, luckythisway said: Which means that sales should be weighted more in order to balance out the monopoly on the industry that streaming is creating. this makes no sense. if more people are streaming then streaming needs to hold the most weight. it makes NO sense to keep increasing the weight of value for an increasingly smaller and smaller group of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BrooklynBoy said: 2007 was the height of commercial rap. Not the early 2000s where Em, nelly, 50, Jayz , luda were easily going multiplat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Monster Megamind said: But Rockstar is also a big hit worldwide Yet Havana is #1 on the United World Chart so what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBoy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Enoch said: Not the early 2000s where Em, nelly, 50, Jayz , luda were easily going multiplat? I meant commercial as in quick lil generic rap music that sold a bunch of ringtones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Honeymoon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 BB 200 article is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loghen Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 What's with the US giving so many ****ty songs their #1 spot lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igetfilthy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Billboard numbers are officially out! https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8039679/taylor-swift-reputation-debuts-no-1-billboard-200-albums Edited November 21, 2017 by igetfilthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olhiver Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Havana having a nice run!!! So proud of Camila and her #1 wordwide song...USA Better join to the #1's party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, igetfilthy said: Billboard numbers are officially out! https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8039679/taylor-swift-reputation-debuts-no-1-billboard-200-albums Taylor kudos to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe² Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, K$Ellie said: 17. Bad at Love 19. New Rules It Pop Girls of 2017! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieuxvu Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 At least Mi Gente is still in top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, luckythisway said: Which means that sales should be weighted more in order to balance out the monopoly on the industry that streaming is creating. So it makes sense to you to increase the influence of a metric becoming less representative of overall consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castle13 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 They should discount Havana on spotify too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet Mars Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 People keep complaining about all the mumble rap but there's only 1 song like that in the top 10. Rockstar isn't mumble rap. This top 10 is very musically diverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witnessed ET Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 So Havana is never going #1 then? Also, at Gucci Gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Witnessed ET said: So Havana is never going #1 then? Also, at Gucci Gang. It has a very small chance next week from what Ive gathered from @Monster Megamind but im not sure, no predictions have gone up yet. But you can always help by streaming and purchasing all versions on iTunes. Edited November 21, 2017 by Bentley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPBrown Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Havana deserves to go #1 and it'd be a damn shame if it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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