KKCuteCat Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Pink is already out of Top 20? Well, with no single hit, i think it's kinda expected tho
MANUELF Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: Pink is already out of Top 20? Well, with no single hit, i think it's kinda expected tho Streaming hasnt been nice to her, with the old rules What Abou Us would have been a top 10 hit and her album would still be top 10
Lukey Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Awwww nooo I was hoping Grace would be able to get at least top 20
Lukey Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 9 hours ago, EyesOnMe said: Future & Young Thug(Epic/300/Atlantic) 21-24k, 1-2k Grace VanderWaal (Columbia) 21-24k, 18-20k omg I swear to Jesus Grace better finish above this. I find it so unfair.
sadnews Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: Pink is already out of Top 20? Well, with no single hit, i think it's kinda expected tho her single is currently at #6 airplay. airplay is the one that important not the single chart position.
KKCuteCat Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, sadnews said: her single is currently at #6 airplay. airplay is the one that important not the single chart position. the delusional . While most of ATRL complained about how radio can be manipulated, you are the only one who said it is the most important The overall chart is the most important chart btw
Roberto Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Not Kelly selling better than 3 albums in the top 10 and falling to #19. **** up, streaming.
sadnews Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, KKCuteCat said: the delusional . While most of ATRL complained about how radio can be manipulated, you are the only one who said it is the most important The overall chart is the most important chart btw for who? atrler? airpaly = exposure to gp daily. aiplay also drive sales and streams, the reason pink is surviving right now is because of those airplay. and the reason britney,christina,avril and others couldn't do like her is airplay.
KKCuteCat Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, sadnews said: for who? atrler? airpaly = exposure to gp daily. aiplay also drive sales and streams, the reason pink is surviving right now is because of those airplay. and the reason britney,christina,avril and others couldn't do like her is airplay. GP are forced to listen to what radio plays. It's passive. There are lots of songs that sold and were streamed alot without the support of radio and yet couldn't reach Top 10 Billboard cause radio don't play them, even with a good call out score like WTH. Some are exactly the opposite like Bad Liar and WUS (in US). At least WUS has good call out score but the point is for the other platforms, people actually spend money to buy what they like while for radio, they are forced to listen to what they play. I'm not saying that radio is not important but it's not the most important. All countries aside US don't even count radio on their official chart. And remember, you're trying to prove that P!nk's album only spent 3 weeks in top 20 in US EVEN WITH A HIT SINGLE? Does it make her look better? Edited November 8, 2017 by KKCuteCat
sadnews Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: GP are forced to listen to what radio plays. It's passive. There are lots of songs that sold and were streamed alot without the support of radio and yet couldn't reach Top 10 Billboard cause radio don't play them, even with a good call out score like WTH. Some are exactly the opposite like Bad Liar and WUS (in US). At least WUS has good call out score but the point is for the other platforms, people actually spend money to buy what they like while for radio, they are forced to listen to what they play. I'm not saying that radio is not important but it's not the most important. All countries aside US don't even count radio on their official chart. And remember, you're trying to prove that P!nk's album only spent 3 weeks in top 20 in US EVEN WITH A HIT SINGLE? Does it make her look better? and this wasn't my point? the point is airplay is biggest promotion artist can get. P!nk had that. #6 radio hit. which make her falling worse.
geodancefreak Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Sam's numbers are great. It's a good album, so good for him.
KKCuteCat Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, sadnews said: and this wasn't my point? the point is airplay is biggest promotion artist can get. P!nk had that. #6 radio hit. which make her falling worse. I thought you tried to say airplay was the most important chart And yeah, P!nk is so lucky because radio is still supporting her.
yamiyuuuu Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Roberto said: Not Kelly selling better than 3 albums in the top 10 and falling to #19. **** up, streaming. Ya’ll need to get over this. Kelly has the seventh best selling album but in no way she has the seventh most popular or consumed album this week, she has the 19th. It’s that easy.
yamiyuuuu Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Lukey said: omg I swear to Jesus Grace better finish above this. I find it so unfair. It’s not unfair. Their album is more popular and is being consumed more than Grace’s.
Lukey Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, yamiyuuuu said: It’s not unfair. Their album is more popular and is being consumed more than Grace’s. Consumed via streaming and barely more since they have the same SPS sales. I'm discussing more on the Grace clearly has a lot of digital/physical sales and yet could miss out on the top 20 because of that.
yamiyuuuu Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, Lukey said: Consumed via streaming and barely more since they have the same SPS sales. I'm discussing more on the Grace clearly has a lot of digital/physical sales and yet could miss out on the top 20 because of that. It’s still not unfair.
HAPPI•LIL•PILL Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Sam's sales are good. On the other hand, M5's are bad. I know they aren't GREAT album sellers. They made their situation worst by releasing TRASH singles (which means no hits to inflate the album sales).
Lukey Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, yamiyuuuu said: It’s still not unfair. It is, but it's whatever. I'm not someone who hates streaming as 98% of my music is consumed via streaming. However, when someone is selling 1k compared to another artist who is selling 19k and then with streaming included they are selling around the same, and yet the one who is actually selling more via people buying gets pushed down, it's an annoyance and in MY opinion, unfair.
dussymob Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) How is selling 131k bad in 2017? Edited November 8, 2017 by dussymob
HilaryDuffFan Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I don't think Sam has the bundles this week. Emails for CD redemption haven't gone out...
Walk_Away21 Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Lukey said: It is, but it's whatever. I'm not someone who hates streaming as 98% of my music is consumed via streaming. However, when someone is selling 1k compared to another artist who is selling 19k and then with streaming included they are selling around the same, and yet the one who is actually selling more via people buying gets pushed down, it's an annoyance and in MY opinion, unfair. Clock. Also streaming is an advantage because your chart run counts people replaying your album. People listen to an album they bought for weeks but the numbers only count for one week while people streaming an album for weeks keep that album propped up. It's why people who sell more generally have worse streaming.
Diesel Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, dussymob said: How is selling 131k bad in 2017? Because for the haters, every excuse is good to drag Maroon 5 here
liberalmusiclover Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 Wow at M5’s numbers climbing yet again, with the lead single still not hitting the top 10 yet. Can’t say I’m surprised though. The album is a quality album. AHH MY ****ING FAVES.
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