PhreshDiamond Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, peterstyles13 said: So you honestly think Rihanna is better on charts than Adele and Taylor Swift? They are literally the two biggest artist in the music industry today (along with Beyoncé). The delusion is real. She is just as big, if not bigger than Taylor, she has been consistent for 10 years, and beyonce performs very poorly on the charts since 4 so I don't know what you're trying with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNAMI Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Chaos Angel said: @simmnfierzig Did you count the performance views for MR on Youtube for streams? Did she upload Million Reasons performance only cut from all 12 minutes? if not, nothing will be counted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, NEZ said: i wasnt calling it a flop. someone said adele and taylors leads have never "flopped" but rihannas have but all of rihs leads have gone top 10. But your peak isn't the only criteria that determines whether a song is a flop or not. 'Tim McGraw' sold 1.5M copies despite being a pure country song from a NEW record label that had almost no contact in the music industry. You can't just look at the peak and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, PhreshDiamond said: She is just as big, if not bigger than Taylor, she has been consistent for 10 years, and beyonce performs very poorly on the charts since 4 so I don't know what you're trying with that She is bigger than Taylor? Come on now. Taylor almost sold the same amount of records with 5 albums than Rihanna with 8 studio albums. 1989 outsells any album ever produced by Rihanna. Taylor has 3 albums with 1M+ week sales. How many does Riri have? None? She won more awards, have WAY better album sales and even better single sales since she went pop. On which metric is Rihanna actually ahead of Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, peterstyles13 said: She is bigger than Taylor? Come on now. Taylor almost sold the same amount of records with 5 albums than Rihanna with 8 studio albums. 1989 outsells any album ever produced by Rihanna. Taylor has 3 albums with 1M+ week sales. How many does Riri have? None? She won more awards, have WAY better album sales and even better single sales since she went pop. On which metric is Rihanna actually ahead of Taylor? To be fair Taylor has more awards because she has family in the record industry for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, peterstyles13 said: She is bigger than Taylor? Come on now. Taylor almost sold the same amount of records with 5 albums than Rihanna with 8 studio albums. 1989 outsells any album ever produced by Rihanna. Taylor has 3 albums with 1M+ week sales. How many does Riri have? None? She won more awards, have WAY better album sales and even better single sales since she went pop. On which metric is Rihanna actually ahead of Taylor? this ramble I'll try and respond to the stuff that has any kind of fact to it. GGGBR has sold near enough to the 9.5M of 1989 so no. If we are using your convoluted logic of defending Taylors first lead single, then Rihanna barely promotes her eras after the first single since LOUD, so 5 v 8 is irrelevant as she cut most of her eras short. Compared to the heavy and continuous promotions that Taylor does right till the end of the era. The rest is just stan blind rambles that I'm not going to bother with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Adonis said: To be fair Taylor has more awards because she has family in the record industry for years. But honestly I'm still waiting for a metric where Rihanna is currently ahead of Taylor. I can't think of one. Album sales: Taylor > Rihanna Single sales: Taylor > Rihanna Metascore: Taylor > Rihanna Tour gross: Taylor > Rihanna Net worth: Taylor > Rihanna Awards: Taylor > Rihanna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Adonis said: To be fair Taylor has more awards because she has family in the record industry for years. lol not true, her dad is a stock broker and her mom is a housewife, not even cousins or uncles in the music industry. who is going around telling these lies??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, peterstyles13 said: But honestly I'm still waiting for a metric where Rihanna is currently ahead of Taylor. I can't think of one. Album sales: Taylor > Rihanna Single sales: Taylor > Rihanna Metascore: Taylor > Rihanna Tour gross: Taylor > Rihanna Net worth: Taylor > Rihanna Awards: Taylor > Rihanna Rihanna is the best selling Digital artist ever, what are you on about She is a streaming monster as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckythisway Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Look i'm not a huge Taylor Swift fan (& i stan Rihanna) but if Taylor & Rih both dropped an album or a single on the same day, Taylor would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNAMI Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, peterstyles13 said: But honestly I'm still waiting for a metric where Rihanna is currently ahead of Taylor. I can't think of one. Album sales: Taylor > Rihanna Single sales: Taylor > Rihanna Metascore: Taylor > Rihanna Tour gross: Taylor > Rihanna Net worth: Taylor > Rihanna Awards: Taylor > Rihanna sis........... Album sales: Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Single sales: Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Metascore: Beyonce > Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Tour gross: Beyonce > Taylor > Rihanna Net worth: Beyonce > Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Awards: Beyonce > Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, PhreshDiamond said: Rihanna is the best selling Digital artist ever, what are you on about She is a streaming monster as well. Taylor would be the best selling Digital artist if she, like Rihanna, had 8 studio albums and 66 singles. You can't use this as an argument, you need to consider the fact that she released more albums and singles. And for streams. Well. We can't really compare, can we ? And tbh I really couldn't care less about streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alestevens Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 hours ago, PeaceInPop said: If the song is good katy sure will debut on 1 . It's katy come on Roar had one of the biggest selling debut weeks ever, a massive radio and streaming start and it still took some weeks to go #1. It's all about the competition rather than how huge the actual song can be, and currently Shape Of You is HUGE. I mean, it'll be amazing if she does it, but by no means should we "expect" it to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, peterstyles13 said: Taylor would be the best selling Digital artist if she, like Rihanna, had 8 studio albums and 66 singles. You can't use this as an argument, you need to consider the fact that she released more albums and singles. And for streams. Well. We can't really compare, can we ? And tbh I really couldn't care less about streams. right so basically you're stan blind thanks for proving me right I guess. And its a shame you don't care about streams as its how the vast majority consume music now. Enjoy your singles barely scrapping 1 million pure sales I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Nation Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, peterstyles13 said: Taylor would be the best selling Digital artist if she, like Rihanna, had 8 studio albums and 66 singles. You can't use this as an argument, you need to consider the fact that she released more albums and singles. And for streams. Well. We can't really compare, can we ? And tbh I really couldn't care less about streams. There is absolutely no way of telling where Taylor would be if she released the same amount of albums and singles as Rihanna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: sis........... Album sales: Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Single sales: Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Metascore: Beyonce > Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Tour gross: Beyonce > Taylor > Rihanna Net worth: Beyonce > Adele > Taylor > Rihanna Awards: Beyonce > Adele > Taylor > Rihanna We were talking about Taylor and Rihanna, but thank you very much for your input. Now let me correct your mistakes: Album sales: Adele > Taylor > Rihanna (duh)Single sales: Taylor (140M) > Beyoncé (130M) > Adele (65M) Metascore: Taylor (75) > Beyonce (74) > Adele (73) > Rihanna (68) Tour gross: Beyonce > Taylor > RihannaNet worth: Beyonce (265M) > Taylor (250M) > Rihanna (175M) > Adele (125M)Awards: Taylor (279) > Beyonce (247) > Rihanna (139) > Adele (136) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, One Nation said: There is absolutely no way of telling where Taylor would be if she released the same amount of albums and singles as Rihanna I actually cringed at the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) OH MY GOD can this Tay vs. Rih thing be doneT let's just agree that both are huge and successful and get back to the debate of whether Katy will flop or not Edited February 9, 2017 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, PhreshDiamond said: right so basically you're stan blind thanks for proving me right I guess. And its a shame you don't care about streams as its how the vast majority consume music now. Enjoy your singles barely scrapping 1 million pure sales I guess. Sorry if I seemed narrow-minded, it's not my intention at all. Tho I don't see how I stan blind when I strictly rely on facts? I said I could care less about streams because there's no point to debate over streams when one of the artist isn't on Spotify. And to an extent, I do oppose streaming devices but let's not get into that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELE2125 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Well, tbh (I cannot believe I'm going to defend Taylor Swift, omg)... Rihanna is only the bigget digital singles selling artist because she has like 12395943 features... Her biggest selling song is not even 6M pure sales, in fact she doesn't even have a 6M selling song, except for I Love The Way You Lie, in which again, she is featured. Rihanna's best selling single is We Found Love, released in 2010, back when digital sales were stronger and even then it couldn't sell more than 5,5M... Diamonds for example was one of the worst #1 seller at the time of it's release, it's at 3,4M as of today... So, yeah, the sum of her TONS of singles makes her the best selling digital artists, but when you look closer, the singles of Taylor, Katy and Adele always outsell Rihanna's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 @simmnfierzig Where will MR land on the Hot 100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlet Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Headlock said: OH MY GOD can this Tay vs. Rih thing be doneT let's just agree that both are huge and successful and get back to the debate of whether Katy will flop or not she will probably not debut at #1 and may not even reach it the kats are getting too hyped Edited February 9, 2017 by rowlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrahamjmr Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 All this arguments about Katy's possible debut. Watch her debut atop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, abrahamjmr said: All this arguments about Katy's possible debut. Watch her debut atop. I think the thing right now that makes it more questionable is we don't know when she's releasing the video. If she releases it on Friday with the single then debuting at #1 becomes much more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrahamjmr Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Headlock said: I think the thing right now that makes it more questionable is we don't know when she's releasing the video. If she releases it on Friday with the single then debuting at #1 becomes much more likely. She will still go #1, though. People have forgotten she hasn't had a proper music release since 2014. Her public clearly misses her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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