iHype. Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Strraming finally gave them an ACCURATE chart of weekly popularity and now they want it to look like the pre-streaming mess.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted July 1, 2017 ATRL Moderator Posted July 1, 2017 54 minutes ago, Brinny Baby said: The UK Official Charts Company has been losing its credibility recently, and this is just the final nail in the coffin. First, the ridiculous rule of three songs per album (in an attempt to allow real singles to chart well instead of album cuts) and now this just to give their charts some speed, this 10 weeks thing. When all this could be solved by just including radio in our charts. #1 Radio doesn't play album cuts #2 Radio will naturally give the charts some speed #3 Radio isn't a random rule change since it's integral to how people consume music, so the charts will still reflect popularity. I agree that these rules are stupid, but counting radio is just as stupid IMO.
Gossip_Boy Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I understand the first change (the 3 album tracks one) but the second one doesn't make any sense. Like at all. It's actually quite stupid.
Kiel D-01 Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I love it. I don't like the same songs charting for eternity like Hot 100.
Émotif Fool Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Have y'all not seen the U.K. Charts? Literally some of those songs are old af. I'm glad for this tbh plus most songs in the U.K. tend to have poor longetivity naturally
Wii Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, iHype. said: Strraming finally gave them an ACCURATE chart of weekly popularity and now they want it to look like the pre-streaming mess. Agreed but I actually prefer their pre-streamming chart, I discovered so many young artists thanks to the chart moving so fast
Starkboy Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 10 weeks? Wtf thats too little We need a popularity chart they need to **** off I mean we should not be surprised this is the country where a couple of years ago there was the preorder thing why british people always have to be different?
tiagol88 Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Brinny Baby said: The UK Official Charts Company has been losing its credibility recently, and this is just the final nail in the coffin. First, the ridiculous rule of three songs per album (in an attempt to allow real singles to chart well instead of album cuts) and now this just to give their charts some speed, this 10 weeks thing. When all this could be solved by just including radio in our charts. #1 Radio doesn't play album cuts #2 Radio will naturally give the charts some speed #3 Radio isn't a random rule change since it's integral to how people consume music, so the charts will still reflect popularity. Radios shouldn't EVER be taken into account. There's a reason why no one does this. The public is what matters and radios don't really show it.
cuneytb Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Yeah but most songs are growing up on their 6th-7th week. Which songs do top the chart the week they are released? This is so stupid
NumbSoul Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 The UK charts are starting to become so bad... All these stupid rules
Brinny Baby Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, jpow said: I agree that these rules are stupid, but counting radio is just as stupid IMO. 7 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Radios shouldn't EVER be taken into account. There's a reason why no one does this. The public is what matters and radios don't really show it. Radio and GP go hand in hand. There are many other similar statistics like this (that have even been posted on this forum). Billboard include radio, and they're the #1 Charts in the World. Also, they don't have messy chart runs like the UK's cos of radio.
Pheromosa Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 NERF HA! somehow I think this is extreme and won't work as intended
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted July 1, 2017 ATRL Moderator Posted July 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Brinny Baby said: Radio and GP go hand in hand. There are many other similar statistics like this (that have even been posted on this forum). Billboard include radio, and they're the #1 Charts in the World. Also, they don't have messy chart runs like the UK's cos of radio. Yes, Billboards use of radio is the only thing that I really can't stand on the chart. It's not a true representation of GP taste at times due to how manipulative it is.
bestfiction Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Back then a song charting for 12 week was considered to be a hit. I guess now they want to bring those times back. It's kinda messy but I'm not fond of that longetivity of the songs on charts, One Dance is on the top-100 for 65 weeks, Thinking Out Loud - for 118(!!!) weeks So I'm for the diversity on the charts, wish BB would do the same thing tbh
Inquisition Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 So they actually want to support the shi**y trend of quick little singles instead of music with longevity? Lemme not speak my mind because I'd get permabanned. UK is hitting lows I could not imagine even existed.
BlazingLovatic Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, bestfiction said: Back then a song charting for 12 week was considered to be a hit. I guess now they want to bring those times back. It's kinda messy but I'm not fond of that longetivity of the songs on charts, One Dance is on the top-100 for 65 weeks, Thinking Out Loud - for 118(!!!) weeks So I'm for the diversity on the charts, wish BB would do the same thing tbh It doesn't make sense for them to be so opposed to the singles chart longevity, but let the albums chart do what it wants. The #6 album in the UK right now has charted for 224 weeks, #12 is at 158 weeks, #15 is at 259 weeks and #18 is at 199 weeks
fridayteenage Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 don't care much either way about rule 2. only 3 songs by a lead artist tho. guess they were pressed by ed's SLAYAGE
igetfilthy Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I understand the max of 3 songs per artist. But rule 2 is preposterous. 10 weeks is far too short. 25 weeks would've been a good range.
Otter Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, BlazingLovatic said: It doesn't make sense for them to be so opposed to the singles chart longevity, but let the albums chart do what it wants. The #6 album in the UK right now has charted for 224 weeks, #12 is at 158 weeks, #15 is at 259 weeks and #18 is at 199 weeks It does IMO. Album charts have little impact on overall makeup of the music scene, whereas singles chart really dictates Radio and what the GP hear. There have been plenty of No.1 albums with zero hit songs.
BlazingLovatic Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 Just now, Otter said: It does IMO. Album charts have little impact on overall makeup of the music scene, whereas singles chart really dictates Radio and what the GP hear. There have been plenty of No.1 albums with zero hit songs. Ed Sheeran had the entire top 10, but as far as I know, radio definitely didn't play the non-single Ed Sheeran songs as much as they would if it was a proper single in the same position with the same success. I think it has some influence, but not as much if the song isn't a proper single/is old
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