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[NoMythologies]

25 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Yeah I think HDD includes Tidal, but they we're just straight up wrong on some numbers. Like the RIU number.

 

 

And that's exactly why I'm hesitant in switching my formular. #100 is impossible enough without trying to estimate programmed streamed

Omg, I can't even imagine trying to break it all out beyond the top 40 or so. The main reason I don't bother predicting beyond the top 20 is because streaming info gets so hard to pin down if it doesn't crack the OD top 50. And over or underestimating by just a little bit throws everything out of wack. I'm not very good at extrapolating based off spotify #'s.

 

But yeah... honestly, I'll probably go back to your formula because a) it doesn't seem to make much of a difference anyway and b) it makes me overthink things even more. Simply comparing the #'s week to week and adjusting based off of what they report seems to be the more accurate and easier way to predict I think.

[popmusic]

7 hours ago, NoMythologies said:

Omg, I can't even imagine trying to break it all out beyond the top 40 or so. The main reason I don't bother predicting beyond the top 20 is because streaming info gets so hard to pin down if it doesn't crack the OD top 50. And over or underestimating by just a little bit throws everything out of wack. I'm not very good at extrapolating based off spotify #'s.

 

But yeah... honestly, I'll probably go back to your formula because a) it doesn't seem to make much of a difference anyway and b) it makes me overthink things even more. Simply comparing the #'s week to week and adjusting based off of what they report seems to be the more accurate and easier way to predict I think.

I think next week (ending 11/16) Billboard is changing Hot100 formula

 

[Before the Dawn]

97. Lemon by N.E.R.D & Rihanna (-43)

 

Damn 

[volition]

2 minutes ago, Before the Dawn said:

97. Lemon by N.E.R.D & Rihanna (-43)

 

Damn 

82. Ready For It by Taylor Swift

 

Isnt this supposed to be a single? 

[Thickorita]

Wolves on Spotify

US: #14 (-3)

WW #6 (-1)

UK #20 (-3)

 

with a 103 million playlist audience 

 

Edited November 5, 2017 by Thickorita

[Starkboy]

36 minutes ago, Thickorita said:

Wolves on Spotify

US: #14 (-3)

WW #6 (-1)

UK #20 (-3)

 

with a 103 million playlist audience 

 

Isn't it still #3 on TTH too?

[Monster Megamind]

1 hour ago, Thickorita said:

Wolves on Spotify

US: #14 (-3)

WW #6 (-1)

UK #20 (-3)

 

with a 103 million playlist audience 

 

The fall occurs because she got removed from new music Friday playlists... And the Sam Smith song got ahead... She needs to stabilize. Performing better than the previous 2 singles.

[blackbeatxx]

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Edited November 5, 2017 by blackbeatxx

[NoMythologies]

10 hours ago, popmusic said:

I think next week (ending 11/16) Billboard is changing Hot100 formula

 

Lol, why did I completely forget that was happening soon?

 

Should be fun to figure out the new one. 

[Agenor]

11 hours ago, popmusic said:

I think next week (ending 11/16) Billboard is changing Hot100 formula

 

Or they'll wait til January (as they did the last two years) and make things more complicated.

[popmusic]

49 minutes ago, Agenor said:

Or they'll wait til January (as they did the last two years) and make things more complicated.

Yeah, I remember that Bible's clever idea but this time they want to change BB200 formula also so I believe first week of December of the bible calendar will be the first week with new methodology. 

[Agenor]

17 minutes ago, popmusic said:

Yeah, I remember that Bible's clever idea but this time they want to change BB200 formula also so I believe first week of December of the bible calendar will be the first week with new methodology. 

I hope so. Hot 100 will be very interesting, songs heavily relying on youtube will plummet in positions.

[simmnfierzig]

12 hours ago, volition said:

82. Ready For It by Taylor Swift

 

Isnt this supposed to be a single? 

Is it? 

[volition]

4 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Is it? 

I think so it has a video and radio adds

[simmnfierzig]

Just now, volition said:

I think so it has a video and radio adds

Guess it's a flop single then 

[volition]

Just now, simmnfierzig said:

Guess it's a flop single then 

I just needed to reply to the other guy

[simmnfierzig]

12 minutes ago, volition said:

I just needed to reply to the other guy

I know. All good.

 

Not like every past Taylor or Rihanna single has been a smash

[By the Water]

34 minutes ago, volition said:

I think so it has a video and radio adds

Does it?

 

Poor CIWYW, it deserved a better debut than Gorgeous. At least the first day on Youtube was slightly better.

[Agenor]

59 minutes ago, By the Water said:

Does it?

http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=308986

[alexanderao]

11/05/2017

Spotify

T50 archive parts. 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5

Top 200 with play counts

 

1. rockstar (2,192,820) *50 days at #1*

2. Gucci Gang (1,319,864) *Currently at peak*
3. Havana (+2) (1,123,506)

4. I Fall Apart (-1) (1,059,076)

5. Too Good At Goodbyes (+1) (1,042,217)

6. Bank Account (+1) (1,024,918)

7. Ghostface Killers (-3) (919,396)

8. 1-800-273-8255 (+1) (903,264)

9. Bodak Yellow (+4) (844,095)

10. MotorSport (833,678)

 

11. What Lovers Do (+5) (797,914) *New peak*
12. XO TOUR Llif3 (+3) (781,980)

13. Young Dumb & Broke (+1) (779,027)

14. Wolves (-3) (759,108)

15. I Get The Bag (+2) (746,531)

16. No Limit (+7) (734,968) *New peak (3 in a row)*

17. Ric Flair Drip (-9) (711,629) *Reached a new peak yesterday*

18. Plain Jane (691,691)

19. New Rules (+6) (686,717)

20. Congratulations (+2) (682,339)

 

21. Sorry Not Sorry (680,249)

22. Let You Down (-3) (674,998)

23. Silence (+1) (660,031)

24. Call It What You Want (-12) (613,727) *Debuted yesterday*

25. HUMBLE. (+2) (612,744)

26. The Way Life Goes (-6) (611,000)

27. Feel It Still (+1) (607,315)

28. Perfect (-2) (601,525)

29. Candy Paint (596,479) *Breaks streak of 2 new peaks in a row* *Currently at peak*

30. Unforgettable (587,313)

 

31. Bad At Love (580,554)

32. Let Me Go (+2) (567,665)

33. Butterfly Effect (-1) (565,702)

34. Roll In Peace (+2) (533,508)

35. Rake It Up (+7) (525,626)

36. Goosebumps (+3) (524,074)

37. Jocelyn Flores (-2) (523,128)

38. Pray (+3) (517,317)

39. Meant To Be (+1) (512,415)

40. How Long (+4) (489,365)

 

41. Slippery (+5) (485,850)

42. Drowning (+1) (480,966)

43. Location (+5) (467,343)

44. Thunder (+9) (448,024)

45. **** Love (+5) (446,035)

46. Rap Saved Me (-13) (443,570)

47. Dusk Till Dawn (443,533)

48. My Choppa Hate N****s (-11) (434,845)

49. Go Flex (432,497)

50. The Race (+6) (427,586)

 

Dropouts

53. Wait (-15) (397,189) *Debuted yesterday*

62. Lemon (-17) (354,649) *Reached a new peak yesterday (its 1st day in the top 50)*

 

Total plays of the Top 10:

11,262,834 (-1,108,078 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 50:

34,729,722 (-3,943,914 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 100:

51,031,867 (-6,237,754 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 200:

72,703,389 (-9,015,497 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 200,000 plays:

165 (-35+ from yesterday)

 

Songs above 300,000 plays:

86 (-20 from yesterday)

 

Apple Music

1. Ghostface Killers

2. rockstar (+2)

3. Ric Flair Drip (-1)

4. Rap Saved Me (-1)

5. MotorSport (+1)

6. My Choppa Hate N****s (-1)

7. I Get The Bag (+3)

8. No Limit (+5)

9. Gucci Gang (+3)

10. Bodak Yellow (+5)

 

11. Nightmare (-4)

12. Mad Stalkers (-4)

13. I Fall Apart (+3)

14. Disrespectful (-5)

15. Bank Account (+3)

16. Patek Water (+1)

17. Run Up The Racks (-6)

18. Havana (+2)

19. Still Serving (-5)

20. Roll In Peace (+3)

 

21. Plain Jane (+1)

22. Call It What You Want (-1)

23. 1-800-273-8255 (+1)

24. Young Dumb & Broke (+2)

25. Love Galore (+3)

26. High End (-1)

27. The Way Life Goes 

28. Congratulations (+1)

29. XO TOUR Llif3 (+2)

30. The Weekend (+4)

 

31. Rake It Up (+11)

32. Darth Vader (-13)

33. Butterfly Effect (-1)

34. Unforgettable (+1)

35. Crew (+3)

36. LOVE. 

37. Too Good At Goodbyes (+3)

38. Lemon (+?)

39. **** Love (-2)

40. Say A' (-1)

 

41. Pull Up N Wreck (+6)

42. No Cap (-9)

43. Drowning 

44. Perfect (+1)

45. Sauce It Up (+1)

46. All Da Smoke (-2)

47. HUMBLE. (+?)

48. Transportin' (+1)

49. Thunder (+?)

50. Bad At Love (-2) 

 

[By the Water]

4 minutes ago, Agenor said:

http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=308986

Thanks. Well, at least that settles it, 100% the second single. Hopefully it gets put back on TTH and rebounds but I doubt it will.

 

 

I just noticed Taylor has no songs on TTH, tragic.

[Agenor]

4 minutes ago, By the Water said:

Thanks. Well, at least that settles it, 100% the second single. Hopefully it gets put back on TTH and rebounds but I doubt it will.

I just noticed Taylor has no songs on TTH, tragic.

I think the best thing would be to announce the 3rd single on the day of album release and push the song simultaneously on the biggest playlists. But seeing that CITWYW hasn't even appeared on "New Music Friday" playlist or in the new releases section (that was really strange) I'm beginning to think that she either has an exclusive deal with Apple for the album, or she's withholding it from streaming services entirely.

[NoMythologies]

Did they remove the looped version of Rockstar that was on YouTube? I can only find a full audio that was uploaded 2 days ago. It dropped to 705,234 views on YouTube on Friday from about 1.4M.

 

I wonder if this means we'll get the MV soon.

[By the Water]

2 minutes ago, Agenor said:

I think the best thing would be to announce the 3rd single on the day of album release and push the song simultaneously on the biggest playlists. But seeing that CITWYW hasn't even appeared on "New Music Friday" playlist or in the new releases section (that was really strange) I'm beginning to think that she either has an exclusive deal with Apple for the album, or she's withholding it from streaming services entirely.

Holiday season is coming up so I wouldn't be surprised if she withholds it from spotify/streaming in general until at least the beginning of 2018. Or maybe she'll do what Adele did and only put her singles there and wait until the era is over to put the rest of the album.

[alexanderao]

16 minutes ago, NoMythologies said:

Did they remove the looped version of Rockstar that was on YouTube? I can only find a full audio that was uploaded 2 days ago. It dropped to 705,234 views on YouTube on Friday from about 1.4M.

 

I wonder if this means we'll get the MV soon.

Yep they did.

 

I cannot imagine Taylor withholding the album from any streaming services. That would really be a shocker for me.