charts discussion Streaming Discussion | Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, etc.

[FutureHive]

2 hours ago, B-Rabbit said:

Republic Records deleted the hook only version of rockstar and added the official audio version to Youtube so people can stop complaining about it

Damage is alrdy done

[B-Rabbit]

9 minutes ago, FutureHive said:

Damage is alrdy done

"Damage"

[FutureHive]

5 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said:

"Damage"

If its nothing why still talking about it

[NoMythologies]

http://m.hitsdailydouble.com/streaming_songs

 

Big increases across the board. I underestimated a lot of songs this week. Hope YT updates early tomorrow so I can start hashing out some final predictions.

[Blue Honeymoon]

3 hours ago, NoMythologies said:

http://m.hitsdailydouble.com/streaming_songs

 

Big increases across the board. I underestimated a lot of songs this week. Hope YT updates early tomorrow so I can start hashing out some final predictions.

Does this include YouTube?

[NoMythologies]

6 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said:

Does this include YouTube?

YouTube is not included. This includes Spotify and Apple Music. However, I'm not 100% certain what other smaller platforms are included. Maybe @alexanderao or @Agenor know what others are included.

 

I would have assumed Tidal is reported with these streams but that doesn't seem to add up with songs that have been bigger on tidal in comparison (see Rake It Up's first week in the top 10).

[Agenor]

25 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said:

Does this include YouTube?

 

15 minutes ago, NoMythologies said:

YouTube is not included. This includes Spotify and Apple Music. However, I'm not 100% certain what other smaller platforms are included. Maybe @alexanderao or @Agenor know what others are included.

 

I would have assumed Tidal is reported with these streams but that doesn't seem to add up with songs that have been bigger on tidal in comparison (see Rake It Up's first week in the top 10).

Here is a list of streaming services currently contributing to the Billboard Hot 100, I'm not sure which ones are counted by HDD (I presume they do not include add supported video streams and programmed streams):

 

[alexanderao]

1 hour ago, NoMythologies said:

YouTube is not included. This includes Spotify and Apple Music. However, I'm not 100% certain what other smaller platforms are included. Maybe @alexanderao or @Agenor know what others are included.

 

I would have assumed Tidal is reported with these streams but that doesn't seem to add up with songs that have been bigger on tidal in comparison (see Rake It Up's first week in the top 10).

I don't know. Will try to find out

Edited November 4, 2017 by alexanderao

[omrimayo]

CIWYW is 12 in the US without any NMF or playlist, less amazing WW of course but hey, that's good.

[Navyofbadgals]

I think Sam smiths whole album is charting in Spotify US  

hes got this week in the bag (as expected)

 

also Lemon up to #45  

[Cockney Cupcake]

On 3/11/2017 at 9:05 AM, blackbeatxx said:

last 24 hours on YT:

 

100+14 Adele - Hello 1,270,782

 

This is incredible, it has continued to surge for the last months, it was evening out at 700k Daily views Before that!

dunno why, are ppl thirsty? is it payola?

 

The colder the weather the stronger she gets. It’s her season. It got like 1.4m yesterday 

[Recordyear]

Entire top 200 in US Spotify is 200k+ plays, should be the first time.

[alexanderao]

2 minutes ago, Recordyear said:

Entire top 200 in US Spotify is 200k+ plays, should be the first time.

It is indeed the first time! The closest we'd been prior to today was on 10/7, when 197 songs were above 200k.

[alexanderao]

11/04/2017

Spotify

T50 archive parts. 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5

Top 200 with play counts

 

1. rockstar (2,360,185) *49 days at #1*

2. Gucci Gang (1,376,671) *Currently at peak*
3. I Fall Apart (+1) (1,187,689)

4. Ghostface Killers (-1) (1,172,008)

5. Havana (1,133,422)

6. Too Good At Goodbyes (+10) (1,108,464)

7. Bank Account (-1) (1,055,154)

8. Ric Flair Drip (+2) (1,037,830) *New peak*
9. 1-800-273-8255 (-1) (988,411)

10. MotorSport (-1) (951,078)

 

11. Wolves (-4) (907,439)

12. Taylor Swift - Call It What You Want (DEBUT) (875,328)

13. Bodak Yellow (-1) (850,484)

14. Young Dumb & Broke (-3) (846,407)

15. XO TOUR Llif3 (-1) (827,674)

16. What Lovers Do (+2) (821,761)

17. I Get The Bag (-4) (821,340)

18. Plain Jane (+1) (758,941)

19. Let You Down (-4) (745,868)

20. The Way Life Goes (-3) (744,920)

 

21. Sorry Not Sorry (-1) (740,923)

22. Congratulations (-1) (740,304)

23. No Limit (+3) (736,379) *New peak (2 in a row)*

24. Silence (-2) (713,226)

25. New Rules (-1) (703,143)

26. Perfect (-1) (673,909)

27. HUMBLE. (+2) (659,294)

28. Feel It Still (-1) (656,023)

29. Candy Paint (+3) (649,376) *New peak (2 in a row)*

30. Unforgettable (+3) (638,226)

 

31. Bad At Love (-3) (635,685)

32. Butterfly Effect (+2) (621,010)

33. Rap Saved Me (-10) (617,876)

34. Let Me Go (-3) (607,201)

35. Jocelyn Flores (592,380)

36. Roll In Peace (+1) (590,513)

37. My Choppa Hate N****s (-7) (589,503)

38. Maroon 5 - Wait (DEBUT) (588,796)

39. Goosebumps (-1) (573,887)

40. Meant To Be (-4) (573,440)

 

41. Pray (+65) (557,675)

42. Rake It Up (+3) (535,625)

43. Drowning (+3) (528,418)

44. How Long (-3) (525,426)

45. N.E.R.D & Rihanna - Lemon (+14) (518,307) *New peak* *1st day in the top 50*

46. Slippery (+2) (516,841)

47. Dusk Till Dawn (-5) (515,680)

48. Location (-1) (513,431)

49. Go Flex (-5) (497,948)

50. **** Love (-1) (492,117)

 

Dropouts

52. Disrespectful (-13) (485,231)

54. Glorious (-4) (462,736)

55. Nightmare (-15) (459,431)

58. Mad Stalkers (-15) (439,867)

 

Total plays of the Top 10:

12,370,912 (+673,759 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 50:

38,673,636 (+2,231,892 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 100:

57,269,621 (+3,917,018 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 200:

81,718,886 (+6,513,980 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 200,000 plays:

200+ (+31+ from yesterday)

 

Songs above 300,000 plays:

106 (+15 from yesterday)

 

Apple Music

1. Ghostface Killers

2. Ric Flair Drip

3. Rap Saved Me

4. rockstar

5. My Choppa Hate N****s

6. MotorSport

7. Nightmare

8. Mad Stalkers

9. Disrespectful

10. I Get The Bag

 

11. Run Up The Racks

12. Gucci Gang

13. No Limit

14. Still Serving

15. Bodak Yellow

16. I Fall Apart

17. Patek Water

18. Bank Account

19. Darth Vader

20. Havana

 

21. Call It What You Want

22. Plain Jane

23. Roll In Peace

24. 1-800-273-8255

25. High End

26. Young Dumb & Broke

27. The Way Life Goes

28. Love Galore

29. Congratulations

30. Lemon

 

31. XO TOUR Llif3

32. Butterfly Effect

33. No Cap

34. The Weekend 

35. Unforgettable

36. LOVE.

37. **** Love

38. Crew

39. Say A'

40. Too Good At Goodbyes

 

41. Wolves

42. Rake It Up

43. Drowning

44. All Da Smoke

45. Perfect

46. Sauce It Up

47. Pull Up N Wreck

48. Bad At Love

49. Transportin'

50. Pick It Up

Edited November 4, 2017 by alexanderao

[blackbeatxx]

1 hour ago, Cockney Cupcake said:

The colder the weather the stronger she gets. It’s her season. It got like 1.4m yesterday 

91

+8

Adele - Hello

1,460,316

200+7 Adele - Someone Like You

839,281

206+12 Adele - Rolling in the Deep

819,294

 

Last 24h update!

Edited November 4, 2017 by blackbeatxx

[Starkboy]

Spotify WW

	3 (+4) Too Good At Goodbyes by Sam Smith |  4,027,566

41 (+65) Pray by Sam Smith |  1,491,303

	55 (NE) One Last Song by Sam Smith |  1,213,965
	56 (+102) Burning by Sam Smith |  1,210,981

71 (NE) Say It First by Sam Smith |  1,072,038

91 (NE) Nothing Left For You by Sam Smith |  924,080

98 (NE) Midnight Train by Sam Smith |  891,354

102 (NE) Baby, You Make Me Crazy by Sam Smith |  871,626

107 (NE) HIM by Sam Smith |  836,541

118 (NE) No Peace by Sam Smith |  795,642

137 (NE) Palace by Sam Smith |  685,450
142 (NE) Scars by Sam Smith |  670,640       144 (NE) The Thrill of It All by Sam Smith |  661,669         155 (+1) Stay With Me by Sam Smith |  615,121         169 (NE) One Day At a Time by Sam Smith |  587,695       180 (+3) I'm Not The Only One by Sam Smith |  566,641

 very good

Edited November 4, 2017 by Starkboy

[QueenofCopyPaste]

12   Call It What You Want by Taylor Swift   875,328

[taylor__fan]

11 minutes ago, ATRL's WP Magnet said:

12   Call It What You Want by Taylor Swift   875,328

Here we can see the real power of spotify payola

[Green]

32 minutes ago, taylor__fan said:

Here we can see the real power of spotify payola

 

Does "Call It What You Want" have Spotify payola? 

[taylor__fan]

Just now, Green said:

 

Does "Call It What You Want" have Spotify payola? 

i mean exactly the opposite

All her promo signles were #1 in TTH and NMF, while this one didnt, and we can see a difference in the numbers

[Green]

36 minutes ago, taylor__fan said:

i mean exactly the opposite

All her promo signles were #1 in TTH and NMF, while this one didnt, and we can see a difference in the numbers

 

Yeah,some people try to deny it but Spotify playlists/payola have a big effect.

 

Gorgeous for example was #2 on Spotify thanks to that

 

https://spotifycharts.com/regional/us/daily/2017-10-20

Edited November 4, 2017 by Green

[NoMythologies]

9 hours ago, Agenor said:

 

Here is a list of streaming services currently contributing to the Billboard Hot 100, I'm not sure which ones are counted by HDD (I presume they do not include add supported video streams and programmed streams):

 

 

8 hours ago, alexanderao said:

I don't know. Will try to find out

Thanks guys! The biggest question mark for me is always Tidal. I don't believe they're included in the HDD report, but who knows really? 

[Agenor]

26 minutes ago, NoMythologies said:

 

Thanks guys! The biggest question mark for me is always Tidal. I don't believe they're included in the HDD report, but who knows really? 

I'm sure they haven't excluded Tidal, the HDD album chart SPS is close to Billboard's reported SPS for albums each week, and some of the albums have been Tidal exclusives. Could be that HDD doesn't take into account some of the smaller streaming services.

Edited November 4, 2017 by Agenor

[NoMythologies]

14 minutes ago, Agenor said:

I'm sure they haven't excluded Tidal, the HDD album chart SPS is close to Billboard's reported SPS for albums each week, and some of the albums have been Tidal exclusives. Could be that HDD doesn't take into account some of the smaller streaming services.

Hmmm... I'm sure you're right. I just remember being confused by the streams reported by BB for the week Rake It Up went top 10 cause it didn't seem to add up with what HDD reported. Although, maybe that had more to with the other smaller services. It'd be interesting to get a breakdown for how many streams come from each service on average.

 

Now that I've started to separate OD and programmed streams when making predictions, I've found it quite difficult to come up with #'s for programmed streams. Particularly for the songs outside the top 10.

[simmnfierzig]

8 hours ago, NoMythologies said:

Hmmm... I'm sure you're right. I just remember being confused by the streams reported by BB for the week Rake It Up went top 10 cause it didn't seem to add up with what HDD reported. Although, maybe that had more to with the other smaller services. It'd be interesting to get a breakdown for how many streams come from each service on average.

 

Now that I've started to separate OD and programmed streams when making predictions, I've found it quite difficult to come up with #'s for programmed streams. Particularly for the songs outside the top 10.

Yeah I think HDD includes Tidal, but they we're just straight up wrong on some numbers. Like the RIU number.

 

 

And that's exactly why I'm hesitant in switching my formular. #100 is impossible enough without trying to estimate programmed streamed