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[B-Rabbit]

15 minutes ago, Marq said:

Not you reducing Rockstar's monster #1 opening to "top 20" in an attempt to equalize  its performance with Bank Account. The majority of the US Spotify charts consists of rap and yet the only rappers I'm seeing top 10 WW are both white.

 

Bank Account went #1 on US Spotify but didn't crack top 20 WW. We can also look at Bodak Yellow, which hasn't cracked the top 20 WW. Travis Scott is a fairly big figure in the US and both of his recent singles have done great in the US (Goosebumps specifically has had major longevity). Neither cracked top 30 WW.

 

Bad and Boujee barely cracked the top 10 WW for ****s sake.  The list goes on. My point stands.

No, I am saying that this is the first song of his to crack the top 20 despite having a #14 peaking 4x plat and #8 peaking 5x plat single. It's more of hip hop being way bigger in US than any other country. Country is worse and they are white artists

[fridayteenage]

10+3

SZA - The Weekend

1,042,154 +54,016

 

sza coming!

[Cz!]

"rockstar" is smashing ww because it has an actual melody. B&B does not. Same for BA.

 

"cocaine on the table, liquor pouring, don't give a damn - dude your girlfriend is a groupie, she just trying to get innnn - saying 'I'm with the bannnnd' ay ay" is pop perfection.

[wish]

Travis Scott is easily one of the most melodic rappers and has never cracked the top 30 on WW Spotify. Like, just accept the simple fact. It's clear as day. A very select few black "urban" artists are able to cross over to international markets.

 

I'm not even discrediting the song or Post Malone cause it's a bop and it hits all the marks of a 2017 smash. 

[B-Rabbit]

2 hours ago, Marq said:

Travis Scott is easily one of the most melodic rappers and has never cracked the top 30 on WW Spotify. Like, just accept the simple fact. It's clear as day. A very select few black "urban" artists are able to cross over to international markets.

 

I'm not even discrediting the song or Post Malone cause it's a bop and it hits all the marks of a 2017 smash. 

He's good but his vocal effect is not universally loved whereas Post Malone tries to make his voice sound like he is using the least amount of autotune as necessary and Post Malone can actually sing

Edited September 21, 2017 by B-Rabbit

[Cz!]

It's not clear as day. See below:

 

"Unforgettable" // 453,319,738 ww streams // 34.5% from the US

"Mask Off" // 444,918,264 ww streams // 46.8% from the US

"HUMBLE." // 521,221,709 ww streams // 52.5% from the US

"Redbone" // 285,719,666 ww streams // 55.8% from the US

"Bad and Boujee" // 245,807,531 streams // 56.9% from the US

"Passionfruit" // 364,878,127 streams // 57.1% from the US

"Congratulations" // 380,558,560 streams // 57.3% from the US

"XO Tour LLIF3" // 403,316,943 // 57.5% from the US

"White Iverson" // 259,153,009 streams // 81.0 % from the US

 

Being top 5 ww doesn't mean much when 60% of your streams come from the US.

[B-Rabbit]

6 minutes ago, Cz! said:

It's not clear as day. See below:

"Congratulations" // 380,558,560 streams // 57.3% from the US

"White Iverson" // 259,153,009 streams // 81.0 % from the US

 

Not 81% of White Iverson streams coming from the US. Lmao. 

 

I can see it though because he was still really new and didn't start breaking through in other markets until Congratulations.  I think rockstar will have even less % from US than Congratulations as he is becoming more known

Edited September 21, 2017 by B-Rabbit

[FutureHive]

10 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said:

Not 81% of White Iverson streams coming from the US. Lmao. 

 

I can see it though because he was still really new and didn't start breaking through in other markets until Congratulations.  I think rockstar will have even less % from US than Congratulations as he is becoming more known

U said Nas only had one album. I revoke your hip hop card

[Rico Shameless v2]

On 9/20/2017 at 3:36 PM, Mystic Boy said:

Damn Swift is already in the bottom of the top 10 with her lead single ?

Frontloaded much ? 

Where was CTTR, Perfect Illusion, Make Me... etc. at the same time?

[B-Rabbit]

7 minutes ago, FutureHive said:

U said Nas only had one album. I revoke your hip hop card

One classic that everybody universally knows yes

[SilencePlease]

42 minutes ago, Rico Shameless v2 said:

Where was CTTR, Perfect Illusion, Make Me... etc. at the same time?

Lol at you mentioning CTTR with those other two, the disrespect.

 

Anyways, day 29:

-CTTR WW: 14 Chained To The Rhythm by Katy Perry 2,869,257

-LWYMMD WW: 5 Look What You Made Me Do by Taylor Swift 3,419,695

 

Not that much of a difference.

Edited September 21, 2017 by SilencePlease

[wish]

2 hours ago, Cz! said:

It's not clear as day. See below:

 

"Unforgettable" // 453,319,738 ww streams // 34.5% from the US dancehall

"Mask Off" // 444,918,264 ww streams // 46.8% from the US

"HUMBLE." // 521,221,709 ww streams // 52.5% from the US

"Redbone" // 285,719,666 ww streams // 55.8% from the US  r&b

"Bad and Boujee" // 245,807,531 streams // 56.9% from the US

"Passionfruit" // 364,878,127 streams // 57.1% from the US  r&b

"Congratulations" // 380,558,560 streams // 57.3% from the US  Post Malone

"XO Tour LLIF3" // 403,316,943 // 57.5% from the US

"White Iverson" // 259,153,009 streams // 81.0 % from the US  Post Malone

 

Being top 5 ww doesn't mean much when 60% of your streams come from the US.

So you've effectively given me four rap/trap songs from black artists that have smashed WW in the past year out of the dozens that have done numbers in the US. If anything you're proving my point sis! Open ya eyes! 

[alexanderao]

09/21/2017

Spotify

T50 archive parts. 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5

Top 200 with play counts

 

1. rockstar (2,722,183) *5 days at #1*

2. 1-800-273-8255 (1,502,368)

3. Bodak Yellow (1,260,585)

4. Bank Account (1,184,334)

5. Too Good At Goodbyes (1,065,293)

6. Young Dumb & Broke (1,010,346)

7. XO TOUR Llif3 (998,931)

8. Jocelyn Flores (939,787)

9. Look What You Made Me Do (921,760)

10. Silence (+2) (919,273)

 

11. Unforgettable (-1) (913,028)

12. Sorry Not Sorry (-1) (893,704)

13. HUMBLE. (818,274)

14. The Way Life Goes (803,942)

15. Havana (797,105)

16. Mi Gente (+1) (752,795)

17. What Lovers Do (-1) (732,577)

18. **** Love (729,035)

19. Congratulations (717,121)

20. Butterfly Effect (692,540)

 

21. I Get The Bag (685,198)

22. Dusk Till Dawn (681,269)

23. Rake It Up (+1) (665,738)

24. Feel It Still (-1) (664,309)

25. New Rules (+1) (659,415)

26. ...Ready For It? (-1) (633,898)

27. Location (629,052)

28. Love Galore (+2) (621,688)

29. Friends (-1) (614,380)

30. Strip That Down (-1) (600,176)

 

31. Goosebumps (589,481)

32. Roll In Peace (+1) (583,717)

33. Feels (-1) (573,278)

34. Drowning (+1) (549,733)

35. Thunder (-1) (546,762)

36. Glorious (+3) (539,060)

37. The Race (-1) (537,303) *Breaks streak of 2 new peaks in a row*
38. Magnolia (531,519)

39. Wild Thoughts (-2) (526,962)

40. Slippery (+2) (514,708)

 

41. Back To You (-1) (508,309)

42. Despacito - Remix (-1) (504,969)

43. DNA. (499,661)

44. Homemade Dynamite - Remix (+3) (499,089)

45. Believer (-1) (496,203)

46. It's A Vibe (486,041)

47. Redbone (+2) (479,444)

48. Curve (-3) (479,289)

49. I'm The One (-1) (478,089)

50. Attention (476,625)

 

Dropouts

None

 

Total plays of the Top 10:

12,524,860 (+153,584 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 50:

37,230,346 (+455,993 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 100:

54,582,516 (+737,209 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 200:

76,741,694 (+919,368 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 200,000 plays:

172 (+5 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 300,000 plays:

86 (= from yesterday)

 

Apple Music

1. rockstar

2. Bodak Yellow

3. I Get The Bag

4. 1-800-273-8255

5. Bank Account

6. The Way Life Goes 

7. Roll In Peace

8. Love Galore

9. **** Love 

10. Unforgettable (+4)

 

11. Young Dumb & Broke (+2)

12. Jocelyn Flores (-2)

13. Rake It Up (-1)

14. XO TOUR Llif3 (+1)

15. Too Good At Goodbyes (-4)

16. Transportin' (+1)

17. Sauce It Up (+1)

18. The Weekend (-2)

19. Curve 

20. The Race

 

21. Butterfly Effect (+1)

22. Look What You Made Me Do (-1)

23. Wild Thoughts 

24. It's A Vibe 

25. HUMBLE.

26. Congratulations (+1)

27. Location (-1)

28. Crew 

29. LOYALTY.

30. Gucci Gang (+6)

 

31. LOVE. (-1)

32. Silence (-1)

33. Sorry Not Sorry 

34. Relationship (+1)

35. Plain Jane (-1)

36. Everybody Dies In Their Nightmares (-4)
37. Despacito - Remix 

38. Mi Gente

39. Redbone

40. DNA. 

 

41. Dark Queen

42. Neon Guts

43. Strip That Down (+1)

44. ...Ready For It? (-1)

45. Magnolia 

46. Slippery 

47. I'm The One (+1)

48. No Complaints (-1)

49. 4 AM 

50. wokeuplikethis* (+?)

[TOASTY]

I have a quick question that I hope I articulate properly.

 

When concerning streaming conversions to album sales, is it safe to say that an album with a higher track count has a better chance of outcharting an album with fewer tracks when concerning SPS figures?

 

for example, next week Miley and Demi are releasing albums.  Will Demi have a greater chance of bringing in more streams as she has more tracks on her album?  Or are these are relative/trivial things and their fan bases usually drive majority of sales/streams?

[blackbeatxx]

Why did the global YT views for the top  videos plummet lately? I thought YT was growing

[HyperCrush]

8 hours ago, SilencePlease said:

Lol at you mentioning CTTR with those other two, the disrespect.

 

Anyways, day 29:

-CTTR WW: 14 Chained To The Rhythm by Katy Perry 2,869,257

-LWYMMD WW: 5 Look What You Made Me Do by Taylor Swift 3,419,695

 

Not that much of a difference.

LWYMMD is also getting 10 million streams a day on Youtube, and is nearly top 20 on AM (CTTR wasn't in the top 100), so it's not really the same.

[QueenofCopyPaste]

17

NEW

Post Malone - rockstar

809,817

 

Post Malone started charting on Youtube beginning Wednesday

 

http://kworb.net/youtube/insights/us_daily.html

 

 

 

 

[simmnfierzig]

2 hours ago, blackbeatxx said:

Why did the global YT views for the top  videos plummet lately? I thought YT was growing

It increases on a larger scale and over a longer time period.

Not day to day - week to week for every single video. Especially stuff as old as Despacito 

 

You should track the views of the #100 video or even the #500 video on kworb to see the increases

 

3 hours ago, TOASTY said:

I have a quick question that I hope I articulate properly.

 

When concerning streaming conversions to album sales, is it safe to say that an album with a higher track count has a better chance of outcharting an album with fewer tracks when concerning SPS figures?

 

for example, next week Miley and Demi are releasing albums.  Will Demi have a greater chance of bringing in more streams as she has more tracks on her album?  Or are these are relative/trivial things and their fan bases usually drive majority of sales/streams?

As a general rule, yes. Albums with more songs get higher streaming numbers, but Meek Mill will still far outstream Demi even with fewer tracks. Having more tracks is an advantage, but not a big one.

Edited September 22, 2017 by simmnfierzig

[brianc33710]

Hunt's Back Road should easily be the first Country song to reach 150 M US streams. 150 M is important, as that means Hunt earns an extra certification level based on Spotify ODS alone. With AM and other ODS websites, Hunt is likely already at/over 150 M ODS anyway.

[blackbeatxx]

New high again for Rockstar; 2.733 million in US. It shows strength!

And 6 mill WW

[Thickorita]

taylor out of the top 10 on us spotify

[Jude]

Not LWYMMD already outside the top 10 of US Spotify. Demi is also close to snatch it.

 

[TOASTY]

3 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

It increases on a larger scale and over a longer time period.

Not day to day - week to week for every single video. Especially stuff as old as Despacito 

 

You should track the views of the #100 video or even the #500 video on kworb to see the increases

 

As a general rule, yes. Albums with more songs get higher streaming numbers, but Meek Mill will still far outstream Demi even with fewer tracks. Having more tracks is an advantage, but not a big one.

Ah I gotcha, thank you  

[Rico Shameless v2]

13 hours ago, SilencePlease said:

Lol at you mentioning CTTR with those other two, the disrespect.

 

Anyways, day 29:

-CTTR WW: 14 Chained To The Rhythm by Katy Perry 2,869,257

-LWYMMD WW: 5 Look What You Made Me Do by Taylor Swift 3,419,695

 

Not that much of a difference.

Call it what you want, but there’s clearly a standard to how Pop girls are gonna perform on Spotify - Taylor has done it best among them. So laughing at her maintaining at #2 on iTunes, T10 on Spotify, etc. after a month while the other girls weren’t performing as well at the same time (in general really) is what is disrespectful LOL.

 

edit: And that was post was clearly directed at the US where, according to Kworb, Chained was almost out of the T40 in its 4th week, so. But y’all were probably defending / making up excuses for it.

Edited September 22, 2017 by Rico Shameless v2

[DELE2125]

10 hours ago, Thickorita said:

taylor out of the top 10 on us spotify

Oh my God

 

Post Malone is still above 2.5M streams?