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[Mystic Boy]

Damn Swift is already in the bottom of the top 10 with her lead single ?

Frontloaded much ? 

Edited September 20, 2017 by Mystic Boy

[musicman101]

1 hour ago, B-Rabbit said:

How/why did Love Yourself by Bieber get almost 3 million views on monday on youtube?

bc he's the biggest male popstar since Michael Jackson and the song was the #1 song of 2016? A classique indeed

 

Im kidding. it was a YT error

Edited September 20, 2017 by musicman101

[alexanderao]

09/20/2017

Spotify

T50 archive parts. 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5

Top 200 with play counts

 

1. rockstar (2,695,933) *4 days at #1*

2. 1-800-273-8255 (1,485,387)

3. Bodak Yellow (1,224,226)

4. Bank Account (1,163,097)

5. Too Good At Goodbyes (1,064,698)

6. Young Dumb & Broke (1,013,015) *Reached a new peak yesterday* *Currently at peak*
7. XO TOUR Llif3 (984,002)

8. Jocelyn Flores (938,781)

9. Look What You Made Me Do (910,122)

10. Unforgettable (892,015)

 

11. Sorry Not Sorry (+1) (886,063)

12. Silence (-1) (884,235)

13. HUMBLE. (+1) (813,748)

14. The Way Life Goes (-1) (808,364)

15. Havana (767,457)

16. What Lovers Do (+2) (755,588)

17. Mi Gente (-1) (732,889)

18. **** Love (-1) (729,414)

19. Congratulations (714,007)

20. Butterfly Effect (+2) (680,146)

 

21. I Get The Bag (+3) (667,135) *Matches peak*
22. Dusk Till Dawn (-1) (664,888)

23. Feel It Still (+2) (664,441)

24. Rake It Up (+2) (656,151)

25. ...Ready For It? (-5) (652,723)

26. New Rules (-3) (641,801)

27. Location (617,013)

28. Friends (+1) (611,061)

29. Strip That Down (+1) (603,616)

30. Love Galore (-2) (603,490)

 

31. Goosebumps (+1) (581,322)

32. Feels (-1) (572,823)

33. Roll In Peace (570,625)

34. Thunder (+1) (558,177)

35. Drowning (+6) (532,066)

36. The Race (+1) (525,403) *New peak (2 in a row)*

37. Wild Thoughts (-3) (523,393)

38. Magnolia (520,987)

39. Glorious (+3) (518,300)

40. Back To You (-1) (504,402)

 

41. Despacito - Remix (-5) (504,242)

42. Slippery (+2) (500,447)

43. DNA. (+3) (494,056)

44. Believer (-1) (491,401)

45. Curve (-5) (483,692)

46. It's A Vibe (+4) (481,465)

47. Homemade Dynamite - Remix (476,949)

48. I'm The One (-3) (472,382)

49. Redbone (471,019)

50. Attention (-2) (465,696)

 

Dropouts

None

 

Total plays of the Top 10:

12,371,276 (+246,875 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 50:

36,774,353 (+1,028,302 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 100:

53,845,307 (+1,553,087 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 200:

75,822,326 (+2,183,379 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 200,000 plays:

167 (+4 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 300,000 plays:

86 (+4 from yesterday)

 

Apple Music

1. rockstar

2. Bodak Yellow

3. I Get The Bag

4. 1-800-273-8255

5. Bank Account

6. The Way Life Goes 

7. Roll In Peace

8. Love Galore

9. **** Love (+1)

10. Jocelyn Flores (-1)

 

11. Too Good At Goodbyes 

12. Rake It Up (+1)

13. Young Dumb & Broke (-1)

14. Unforgettable 

15. XO TOUR Llif3 (+2)

16. The Weekend (-1)

17. Transportin' (+1)

18. Sauce It Up (-2)

19. Curve (+1)

20. The Race (+1)

 

21. Look What You Made Me Do (-2)

22. Butterfly Effect 

23. Wild Thoughts 

24. It's A Vibe (+1)

25. HUMBLE. (+1)

26. Location (-2)

27. Congratulations 

28. Crew

29. LOYALTY. 

30. LOVE.

 

31. Silence (+1)

32. Everybody Dies In Their Nightmares (-1)

33. Sorry Not Sorry 

34. Plain Jane (+2)

35. Relationship (-1)

36. Gucci Gang (+3)

37. Despacito - Remix (-2)

38. Mi Gente (-1)

39. Redbone (-1)

40. DNA. (+2)

 

41. Dark Queen (-1)

42. Neon Guts (+1)

43. ...Ready For It? (-2)

44. Strip That Down 

45. Magnolia 

46. Slippery (+2)

47. No Complaints (-1)

48. I'm The One (-1)

49. 4 AM (+1)

50. Attention (-1)

[Timber]

Sorry Not Sorry only 24k away from topping LWYMMD! 

[XXXO]

1 hour ago, musicman101 said:

Ummm maybe performing on flop daytime talkshows is dated but no song goes anywhere without promotion.

1.Servicing and payolaing a song on radio = promotion

2. making a viral meme for a song = promotion (it's literally all planned, it's not organic at all, it's an entire industry now)

3. Social media adverts = promotion

4. Some late night shows like SNL, Fallon, and Carpool Karaoke have proved to be good promo slots

 

Most artists right now are just lazy and think that word of mouth thru a couple of tweets and some fake YouTube views are gonna send their songs to #1. The old generation of popstars would NEVER

Then Taylor Swift has the most promoted single of the year so far. I agree with all your points but the promotion (according to the pre-social media era term) excuse is just not valid anymore. 

And tons of songs have gone #1 with no radio support or social media adverts. Bad and Boujee for instance.

Edited September 20, 2017 by XXXO

[musicman101]

4 minutes ago, XXXO said:

Then Taylor Swift has the most promoted single of the year so far. I agree with all your points but the promotion (according to the pre-social media era term) excuse is just not valid anymore. 

And tons of songs have gone #1 with no radio support or social media adverts. Bad and Boujee for instance.

Bad and Boujee was literally a HUGE meme. Memes break songs nowadays it’s so strange

[Yooorsh]

31 minutes ago, Timber said:

Sorry Not Sorry only 24k away from topping LWYMMD! 

A real pop gurl showing longevity  

[XXXO]

9 minutes ago, musicman101 said:

Bad and Boujee was literally a HUGE meme. Memes break songs nowadays it’s so strange

Yeah but still they didn't have to pay radios/streaming services to get success and they didn't perform the song anywhere. That's my point. 

Cardi B is another good example. She just performed the song live once at Wendy Williams back in May or June and the song only really blew up last month. 

Radio and streaming ads are good promo but Taylor had all of that and more, so what that user said remains incorrect

[Headlock]

4 hours ago, XXXO said:

Promotion is useless in 2017 

Why is ATRL so dated

Logic's song 1-800-273-3255 got a huge boost from being performed at the VMAS just a couple of weeks ago 

 

[Jacob.23]

1 hour ago, XXXO said:

Then Taylor Swift has the most promoted single of the year so far. I agree with all your points but the promotion (according to the pre-social media era term) excuse is just not valid anymore. 

And tons of songs have gone #1 with no radio support or social media adverts. Bad and Boujee for instance.

For example everyone has been saying that Havana by Camila has had no promo. While I love the song, it’s been number one on TTH and a few other playlists, also iTunes hot tracks. We should start considering playlist placements promo

[iamvladd]

Some stats from RIAA on 1st half of 2017:

 

Perhaps the most encouraging news from the RIAA’s figures regards streaming subscriber numbers.

At the end of June this year, there were 30.4m paying subscribers to music services in the US.

That was up 50.6% on the 20.2m paying subs attracted at the end of H1 2016 – and more than three times the figure seen just two years ago (9.1m).

 

 

 

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/us-recorded-music-industry-revenues-grew-15-first-half-2017/

[alexanderao]

2 hours ago, Jacob.23 said:

For example everyone has been saying that Havana by Camila has had no promo. While I love the song, it’s been number one on TTH and a few other playlists, also iTunes hot tracks. We should start considering playlist placements promo

Playlist placements do indeed give exposure. But it's important to note that a lot of the time, labels don't get to control what happens on playlists. There are human playlist curators behind every Spotify-branded playlist (like TTH), and most of the time they're the ones deciding which songs get to be on a playlist (and they look at analytics to determine if the song should stay or be removed from the playlist). So it's not "promo" in the traditional sense because the label isn't in full control of it.

[alexanderao]

2 hours ago, Headlock said:

Logic's song 1-800-273-3255 got a huge boost from being performed at the VMAS just a couple of weeks ago 

 

True, but 1-800 is the exception, not the rule. Compared to the iTunes chart, songs really don't tend to see big boosts from TV performances or special events on Spotify, and oftentimes they don't see boosts at all.

[alestevens]

On 19/9/2017 at 7:58 PM, alexanderao said:

3rd straight week with Uzi/XXX #1/#2.

As @brianc33616 mentioned, Thomas's 30.1M is the biggest streaming week yet for a country album

Aashdkjashdkjasdas not Ozuna holding. The Latin boys are all shaking 

[SlaylorSwift]

10 hours ago, Mr. Adele said:

I never said anything about 600m per month sweetie.

 

Just look at Hello, you will understand what we are talking about.

 

And cut the laughing emojis next time, doesn’t look cute on you.

1. Look at Adele's Hello YouTube streams, every times it reaches another 100mil, the days get longer for another 100mil. Proving that even Adele is slowing down in streams.

 

2. I am not acting cute or anything especially for people. Obviously i'm mocking at your sense of hate on Taylor on how insecure you are. You need better inference skills

[wish]

Taylor is about to have no songs in the top 10. Wow, just as I suspected -- people were only checking for her for the hype.

[SlaylorSwift]

3 hours ago, Headlock said:

Logic's song 1-800-273-3255 got a huge boost from being performed at the VMAS just a couple of weeks ago 

 

And they forgotten how Katy's CTTR jumped from less than 50k to over 100k. Over an 100% jump, well that's definitely no 'impact' from performance and promotion.

[Headlock]

14 minutes ago, Marq said:

Taylor is about to have no songs in the top 10. Wow, just as I suspected -- people were only checking for her for the hype.

That must be why she is top 2 in on-demand streaming for a third week, and will likely be as well next week

 

Edited September 21, 2017 by Headlock

[Headlock]

1 hour ago, alexanderao said:

True, but 1-800 is the exception, not the rule. Compared to the iTunes chart, songs really don't tend to see big boosts from TV performances or special events on Spotify, and oftentimes they don't see boosts at all.

Yes, performances and things like that don't always yield the same surefire boosts that they used to, but that user was saying that promotion is useless in 2017, when that is not true at all.

 

Another example: Imagine Dragon's Thunder got a big boost from the song being featured in a commercial that aired multiple times during the Emmys just the other night 

[B-Rabbit]

Post Malone won 

Post Malone's "rockstar" (Republic) is more than living up to its name, and is on track to surpass the first-week streams of Taylor Swift's "Look What You Made Me Do" (Big Machine) and become one of the Top 5 streaming debuts of the year. Based on the track's performance at the top-tier streaming services, "rockstar" is set to do some 35m streams.

Taylor's first week saw 29m streams, while Sam Smith's "Too Good at Goodbyes" (Capitol) bowed with 20m streams at the big streameries.

http://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=308448

[Green]

Damn. If Post Malone had an official video on youtube it would have debuted at #1  

[wish]

Just now, Headlock said:

The must be why she is top 2 in ODS streaming for a third week, and will likely be as well next week

 

Because of the huge spectacle of the video? Of course! But it looks like people are actively dropping the song on streaming, which usually foreshadows how a song will perform on other platforms :/

[Headlock]

7 minutes ago, Marq said:

Because of the huge spectacle of the video? Of course! But it looks like people are actively dropping the song on streaming, which usually foreshadows how a song will perform on other platforms :/

But that isn't what you said, you said people weren't checking for her anymore on streaming, and the video counts as streaming.

 

 

 

[wish]

btw if Post Malone was black he would not be smashing this hard WW

[wish]

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

But that isn't what you said, you said people weren't checking for her anymore on streaming, and the video counts as streaming.

 

 

 

No, I said she was about to fall out of the top 10. Like, on Spotify. The song.