charts discussion Streaming Discussion | Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, etc.

[Root]

Just now, alexanderao said:

The AM chart is far more urban than Spotify's. Typically, you see 6-10 pop songs in the top 50 on any given day. It makes sense when you consider that they've basically only courted urban listeners over the past few years (look at their exclusives– they're all with rap/R&B artists).

but why????

[alexanderao]

6 minutes ago, Root said:

but why????

Well, my guess is that they made that their strategy because urban listeners stream more than listeners of other genres– they tried to pick off the most active streamers from Spotify. But their market share has stayed constant of late, so we'll see if they decide to try something new. After all, other listeners are beginning to adopt streaming as well now–in fact, HDD reported last month that country streams grew more than streams overall during H1 2017–and I think there's a chance their strategy could backfire in the long run.

[emmanuel_punk]

Enjoying the current global spotify top 

 

despacito, Taylor, friends, strip that down, slow hands, humble etc even Demi lovato and all the latin hits as well maluma, j Balvin 

 

this is always the best part of the year in music lovin it!

[omrimayo]

It's updated and it's not looking good for Taylor :(

2.3M in the US, already falling 250K on the UK to number 2... And WW from 7.9M to 5.4M.

[blackbeatxx]

Oop.

a DROP. Not the typical behaviour for a new song on spotify to even drop its 2nd day...

[simmnfierzig]

3 minutes ago, blackbeatxx said:

Oop.

a DROP. Not the typical behaviour for a new song on spotify to even drop its 2nd day...

What? Big debuts drop 2nd and 3rd day

 

Not that much of course, but debut was from the hype. Lets see where it stabalizes 

[DELE2125]

7 hours ago, blackbeatxx said:

Oop.

a DROP. Not the typical behaviour for a new song on spotify to even drop its 2nd day...

Mmmmm. Interesting, indeed.

[blackbeatxx]

1 minute ago, simmnfierzig said:

What? Big debuts drop 2nd and 3rd day

 

Not that much of course, but debut was from the hype. Lets see where it stabalizes 

I guess it does happen occasionaly when a song is EXTREMELY awaited.

But it's a bit of a new phenomenon, for example Hello grew from 1.3 mill its first day to 2.75 mill its 4th or 5th day. So as Spotify has grown i guess it shows more frontloadedness too.

 

But as you say, a drop like this rarwly occurs

[Quaithe]

I guess she broke the record for biggest drop in the US?  The Lord cancelled, biggest female artist cancelled

[alexanderao]

Wow, a HUGE second day for XXX. Big contrast with Uzi, whose songs mostly fell hard. We'll see if any songs from either album pull a Bank Account– right now the leading candidates seem to be Jocelyn Flores and The Way Life Goes.

 

17

6. Jocelyn Flores (+7)

12. **** Love (+5)

16. Everybody Dies In Their Nightmares (+12)

24. Revenge (+13)

30. Depression & Obsession (+8)

35. Save Me (+13)

36. Carry On (+14)

56. Orlando (+8)

58. Dead Inside (Interlude) (+13)

75. Ayala (Outro) (+5)

78. The Explanation (-11)

 

Luv Is Rage 2

2. XO TOUR Llif3 (=)

8. The Way Life Goes (-4)

20. Sauce It Up (-14)

22. 444+222 (-15)

26. X (-4)

38. Two (-29)

42. For Real (-23)

45. UnFazed (-18)

49. Neon Guts (-15)

53. No Sleep Leak (-29)

64. Feelings Mutual (-32)

65. Dark Queen (-16)

70. Pretty Mami (-28)

77. How To Talk (-25)

84. Malfunction (-20)

85. Early 20 Rager (-22)

 

 

 

[Bosque]

Out of recent anticipated releases (SOY, Humble, Hello) all of them actually increased streams on their second days WW. Only SOY dropped 5% in the US, compared to an almost 40% drop for Taylor. Granted, her US start was much bigger than those of all other songs, and the drop in US streams accounts for most of the WW drop as well, so she may yet stabilize. Personally I don't see the song having a lot of longevity, but it will be interesting to see her progression.

 

[blackbeatxx]

5 minutes ago, alexanderao said:

Wow, a HUGE second day for XXX. Big contrast with Uzi, whose songs mostly fell hard. We'll see if any songs from either album pull a Bank Account– right now the leading candidates seem to be Jocelyn Flores and The Way Life Goes.

 

17

6. Jocelyn Flores (+7)

12. **** Love (+5)

16. Everybody Dies In Their Nightmares (+12)

24. Revenge (+13)

30. Depression & Obsession (+8)

35. Save Me (+13)

36. Carry On (+14)

56. Orlando (+8)

58. Dead Inside (Interlude) (+13)

75. Ayala (Outro) (+5)

78. The Explanation (-11)

 

Luv Is Rage 2

2. XO TOUR Llif3 (=)

8. The Way Life Goes (-4)

20. Sauce It Up (-14)

22. 444+222 (-15)

26. X (-4)

38. Two (-29)

42. For Real (-23)

45. UnFazed (-18)

49. Neon Guts (-15)

53. No Sleep Leak (-29)

64. Feelings Mutual (-32)

65. Dark Queen (-16)

70. Pretty Mami (-28)

77. How To Talk (-25)

84. Malfunction (-20)

85. Early 20 Rager (-22)

 

 

 

Never heard XXX before and i noticed his amazing 2nd day so i checked it out, great stuff!

[blackbeatxx]

9 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Out of recent anticipated releases (SOY, Humble, Hello) all of them actually increased streams on their second days WW. Only SOY dropped 5% in the US, compared to an almost 40% drop for Taylor. Granted, her US start was much bigger than those of all other songs, and the drop in US streams accounts for most of the WW drop as well, so she may yet stabilize. Personally I don't see the song having a lot of longevity, but it will be interesting to see her progression.

 

Hello actually did 1.36 million first day in US. 1.94 mill second day ;) so it actually grew 45% to day 2

Edited August 27, 2017 by blackbeatxx

[simmnfierzig]

6 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Out of recent anticipated releases (SOY, Humble, Hello) all of them actually increased streams on their second days WW. Only SOY dropped 5% in the US, compared to an almost 40% drop for Taylor. Granted, her US start was much bigger than those of all other songs, and the drop in US streams accounts for most of the WW drop as well, so she may yet stabilize. Personally I don't see the song having a lot of longevity, but it will be interesting to see her progression.

 

Humble 6,577,558 on album release day and 5,985,290 the day after

 

16 minutes ago, blackbeatxx said:

I guess it does happen occasionaly when a song is EXTREMELY awaited.

But it's a bit of a new phenomenon, for example Hello grew from 1.3 mill its first day to 2.75 mill its 4th or 5th day. So as Spotify has grown i guess it shows more frontloadedness too.

 

But as you say, a drop like this rarwly occurs

Guess I had album tracks in mind 

[Destroun]

9 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Out of recent anticipated releases (SOY, Humble, Hello) all of them actually increased streams on their second days WW. Only SOY dropped 5% in the US, compared to an almost 40% drop for Taylor. Granted, her US start was much bigger than those of all other songs, and the drop in US streams accounts for most of the WW drop as well, so she may yet stabilize. Personally I don't see the song having a lot of longevity, but it will be interesting to see her progression.

 

sad 

[alexanderao]

21 minutes ago, blackbeatxx said:

So as Spotify has grown i guess it shows more frontloadedness too.

This would make sense because as Spotify has grown, the proportion of Spotify users that are hardcore music fans has decreased as the service has expanded its reach to attract casual fans– and casual fans are probably more likely than hardcore ones to stream a new song on day 1 and not return to it on day 2.

[simmnfierzig]

2.3M is still a great number. If it doesn't drop much further than that the next days 

[Root]

3 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

2.3M is still a great number. If it doesn't drop much further than that the next days 

Remember sunday is a bad day for streaming, let's see her monday numbers with the video out

[simmnfierzig]

Just now, Root said:

Remember sunday is a bad day for streaming, let's see her monday numbers with the video out

I know. It will clearly drop some more tomorrow. Please stay above 2M 

[Quaithe]

Just now, simmnfierzig said:

I know. It will clearly drop some more tomorrow. Please stay above 2M 

I think it's going to be 1.5-1.7M. 

[simmnfierzig]

So Youtube insights is showing 994,374 US Youtube streams for LWYMMD for the few minutes Thursday before midnight, but Taylor's artist page isn't showing anything from the song. Can't get the global numbers either 

[Root]

7 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

I know. It will clearly drop some more tomorrow. Please stay above 2M 

not even the biggest hit of the year SOY stood over 2m, 1.6 is my bet, not even Despacito at its peak, you all standars for taylor are not realistic, especially considering the kind of song, this is not SIO

Edited August 27, 2017 by Root

[simmnfierzig]

4 minutes ago, Root said:

not even the biggest hit of the year SOY stood over 2m, 1.6 is my bet, not even Despacito at its peak, you all standars for taylor are not realistic, especially considering the kind of song, this is not SIO

Humble had 2.9M the Sunday after album release 

[Root]

Just now, simmnfierzig said:

Humble had 2.9M the Sunday after album release 

you said it yourself, after the album release the song exploded. 

[simmnfierzig]

Just now, Root said:

you said it yourself, after the album release the song exploded. 

Taylor hyped LWYMMD basically like an album release though 

 

And I mean I knew it was likely to drop below 2M tomorrow, that's why I put the